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Wravyn,

Thankls for your interest. The play is actually still a few months away but preliminary workshops with the company begin next week. Producers, director and designer will all be there and I have a shortlist of effects, backed up by videos wherever possible, to bring to the table. This will be the first time I'll know the overall approach that the director and designer intend to take, and that will obviously have a major impact on the magic content, both in particular and in more general ways. It might well be that the principal casting has already been decided, which will also have a bearing, ditto budget and available tech facilities.

I'll report back.

Let me say again how grateful I am to everyone here and in my other thread over in the grand illusions area.
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On Jun 18, 2018, Mr. Woolery wrote:
Something like Miser’s Dream would allow for serious and self important performance... on Gary Darwin’s TT video set, he demonstrates an almost self working version with a giant coin as the final production.
Patrick, I apologise: I was too hasty and too harsh in my rejection of this idea and I'm looking into it again.
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Patrick, funnily enough I was at a fringe magic evening the other day when someone did that Gary Darwin routine. Unfortunately both performer and performance were atrocious, so it was difficult to judge the effect, but even under those circumstances I could see that the final single coin appearance isn't suitable for what I need.

Thanks for pointing me in that direction, though: a no-sleight miser's dream is still a possibility.
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On the no-sleight subject am I right in recalling a method using a loop rather than the gimmick Darwin employs?
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On the subject of a showy no-sleight finish for a miser's dream it occurred to me that it would work if the character could take a large goblet or small vase or similar (which would fit in with his performance persona), invert it or show it empty, scoop it through the air and then pour out a cascade of coins - the more the merrier.

I suppose it would be like a lota flask or Foo can but specifically for coins, with their particular problems of weight and talking. Does such a prop exist? Is there a standard design for such a thing?

I've asked the same question over in the Workshop section, since I have facilities for making something or having it made, but if anyone here has any thoughts I'd be glad to hear them.
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Or how about a mirror vase, if the necessary move could be done deceptively enough? But how effective is that principle when scaled up from just the size of a glass?
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Hm. Searching around, the received wisdom appears to be anything from "not very" to "not at all". Ah well.
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On the subject of a showy no-sleight finish for a miser's dream it occurred to me that it would work if the character could take a large goblet or small vase or similar (which would fit in with his performance persona), invert it or show it empty, scoop it through the air and then pour out a cascade of coins - the more the merrier.

I suppose it would be like a lota flask or Foo can but specifically for coins, with their particular problems of weight and talking. Does such a prop exist? Is there a standard design for such a thing?

I've asked the same question over in the Workshop section, since I have facilities for making something or having it made, but if anyone here has any thoughts I'd be glad to hear them.
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Bert, one method was suggested in the thread above. It is called the master hat principle but can be applied to many other objects including vases and pails. Though a hat would be historically most accurate. Watch this video at 25 to 33 seconds: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/7751. He uses it to rapid produce a bowl full of coins and chocolate candies. This would be a powerful finish to a miser's dream. Walk around stage producing coins from air and drop in container. Then reach into container and take handful of coins and drop in cascade in bowl on table center stage. Than tip entire container filling bowl with coins. Easy, little skill required.
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Frank, thanks for bringing my attention back to that video. When I watched it earlier I confess that the eggs (totally unsuitable of course for my needs) rather blinded me to the potential of the rest.
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Hm. Searching around, the received wisdom appears to be anything from "not very" to "not at all". Ah well.

That wasn't my impression. Everyone shared their ideas. If I went back through the 4 pages I'm sure I could come up with at least 12 ideas.

Since you have executive control over what ideas you pursue then only you can say whether there is an effect that will fit your needs.
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ViolinKing, you have misunderstood my "the received wisdom appears to be anything from 'not very' to 'not at all'" remark. It was a follow-up to my earlier post:

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But how effective is [the mirror principle] when scaled up from just the size of a glass?


I certainly wasn't disaparaging everyone's ideas and contributions. As you say, they've been varied and fascinating and I'm grateful for each and every one. I'm quite sure that with the help I've received here I'll find the perfect solution for my needs.
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Just to draw the line under this: the scene in the play for which I needed the showy solo effect has now been cut. Ah, the pleasures of showbiz.

Many thanks once again to everyone who chipped in thoughts and suggestions both here and privately; I appreciated them all and I'm sorry that in the end I wasn't able to use any of them.
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