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Dr Ross
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Hi all,

Just come across this. http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/10687

I like that the book is focused on walkaround contexts, as this is mostly how I perform. It has good testimonials and 1 good review so far on the Penguin site. I was wondering if anyone here has this and what their thoughts are?

Cheers,

Ross
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Since you are from the UK and a magician, it would likely be up your alley. There appears to be a lot of fake hypnosis and suggestibility stunts more than anything.
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Dr Ross, have you got it yet? If so, your thoughts?
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On Aug 10, 2018, Mindpro wrote:
Since you are from the UK and a magician, it would likely be up your alley. There appears to be a lot of fake hypnosis and suggestibility stunts more than anything.




Mindoro, Just curious as to what stands out as fake to you in the trailer ? Could you elaborate on that, may be helpful.
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While I don't know the author and have never heard of him, for those experienced in hypnosis it is easy to see from the trailer that is this
"magician's hypnosis." I would bet the farm he is a magician.

It's very Euro style in its presentation of what they have accepted as hypnosis these days. Things being presented as hypnosis are nothing more than suggestibility tests, the routines or examples shown are light suggestibility tests and of course, the magician's favorite "hand being stuck to (anything - table, head, etc.)" It's pseudo (fake or pretend) hypnosis. Even many reviews state the same.

Nothing wrong with it, just that for the uneducated reader who may approach this thinking they will be learning performance hypnosis, it seems a bit misleading.

Don't you think if he actually knew and had real hypnosis footage that it is what he would have put in his demo? I would think you'd feature your best, most appealing, and riveting sample material in your demo that showcases real hypnosis and his legitimacy as an actual hypnotist.

Now really, if you wanted to learn hypnosis would you learn from a magician? Who primarily features pseudo hypnosis?

Maybe to someone uneducated or who doesn't know (magicians), it may look appealing, but to anyone with even a bit of experience you see it for what it is - Euro/UK street hypnosis, done at a wedding or corporate setting. Btw, this would never fly in any corporate settings I've been in or part of in the last 35 years.

I hope that addresses your question.
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All the footage I saw was of things many performers do before they get to the hypnosis. There is nothing wrong with it and I'm not being critical at all.
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Exactly. What many are selling, peddling and unfortunately what many magicians are accepting as hypnosis by these types of products and releases, is all before any formal hypnosis is introduced. It's framed more like "hypno-tricks" rather than an actual learning, working, and understanding of actual hypnosis. As I said, nothing wrong with it, but to imply that "this is hypnosis" or "that this is all there is to being a hypnotist" can be terribly misleading.
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I look at it more as a performance choice.
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While I don’t have the product, but do have a fairly good knowledge of hypnosis, exactly what do you feel that hypnosis really is? I’m curious...
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These are more "suggestability tests". Many hypnotists will use them to find the best subjects, and to deepen the process.

Once they get to the hallucinations then it is more what people will think of as "hypnosis". (Real or not. Mind you I didn't use the word real)

This as was said is more "hypno tricks" than "trance work". (Personally I am not a fan of the stand up inductions.)

It is simply a different performance style is all. Not wrong, not bad, just different. (In my opinion that is.)
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