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Bernard Sim

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Singapore
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Posted: May 14, 2004 6:51am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bernard Sim  

I first got to know this from Dan Brown's book "Angels and Demons".
Check the site http://www.scottkim.com/inversions/index.html


Bernard Sim
Dave1216

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Posted: Jun 15, 2004 2:32pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dave1216  

Does anyone know how I can get one of these created with my name? Are there people out there who offer this service ?

Thanks,
David Corsaro

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owen.daniel

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England
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Posted: Jun 17, 2004 3:43pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of owen.daniel  

Awesome!
I have just finished reading "The Da Vinci Code" (also by Dan Brown), sounds like I had better start "Angels and Demons"!
Owen

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polstein

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Posted: Jun 18, 2004 9:49pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of polstein  

I'm looking into the book now - amazing the stuff you learn browsing the Café.
hitmouse

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Posted: Jul 2, 2004 4:13am    Reply with quote   View Profile of hitmouse  

Quote:

On 2004-05-14 06:51, Bernard Sim wrote:
I first got to know this from Dan Brown's book "Angels and Demons".
Check the site http://www.scottkim.com/inversions/index.html




blimey that brings back memories. I remember reading about Scott Kim's ambigrams in Omni magazine in the late 1970s or early 80s.
EmmanuelM

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Posted: Aug 10, 2004 3:02pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of EmmanuelM  

Quote:

On 2004-06-15 14:32, Dave1216 wrote:
Does anyone know how I can get one of these created with my name? Are there people out there who offer this service ?

Thanks,
David Corsaro



Well, for the fun of it - I've made dozens of such things for kids etc.. - I had a go at your name. See the result below after 10 trials in 15 minutes : I simply write a lot on the paper, and this JPEG is the result I liked most, scanned and a bit smoothed (I can send you a larger file if you want).

Don't expect me to do the final touches to make it really nice, though, for me the "fun" part is over with such a JPEG

I hope the way I choosed to make the "r" in this JPEG is understood, I'm never sure about foreign way of writing (I'm French).

Click here to view attached image.
Dave1216

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Posted: Aug 10, 2004 3:50pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dave1216  

Emmanuel -

That looks great. Thank you very much.

This goes along with my theory that most magicians are the nicest people you would ever want to meet (please note that I did say "most.")

Dave

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MisterE21

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Posted: Sep 4, 2004 1:52am    Reply with quote   View Profile of MisterE21  

I have been playing with these since reading "Angels & Demons" (which, for the record, I found to be a better book than the Da Vinci code, but that's neither here nor there).

below is a "Magic" that I did. I found the basic M/CIG letter form somewhere on the net (I believe they had done the word magically or magick or...something) modified it, altered the A and gave it a slightly more graffiti styled feel...

Dave, I'll try to play with your name this weekend. Do you prefer it to be "David" or "Dave"?

E

Click here to view attached image.

Your EFFECT is only as good as its AFFECT.
Dave1216

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Posted: Sep 4, 2004 3:15pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dave1216  

Dave or David. Doesn't matter. Whichever makes the ambigram look cooler

Thanks

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Bernard Sim

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Posted: Sep 9, 2004 11:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bernard Sim  

Will my name be a challenge?

Bernard

Bernard Sim
EmmanuelM

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Posted: Sep 10, 2004 8:07am    Reply with quote   View Profile of EmmanuelM  

Quote:

On 2004-09-04 01:52, MisterE21 wrote:
below is a "Magic" that I did. I found the basic M/CIG letter form somewhere on the net



The basic form you refer to was done by... Scott Kim himself, for the now defunct French magazine for magicians called "Imagik"

One image of the logo can be found for instance on :

http://magic.callways.com/c29.html
EmmanuelM

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Posted: Sep 10, 2004 5:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of EmmanuelM  

Quote:

On 2004-09-09 23:44, Bernard Sim wrote:
Will my name be a challenge?



Well I'm not satisfied with the result, but here it is...



Click here to view attached image.
Bernard Sim

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Posted: Sep 10, 2004 9:25pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bernard Sim  

Hmmm... interesting. Will have to really look at it to know it. Thanks!

Bernard Sim
EmmanuelM

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Posted: Sep 26, 2004 7:05pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of EmmanuelM  

Quote:

On 2004-09-04 15:15, Dave1216 wrote:
Dave or David. Doesn't matter. Whichever makes the ambigram look cooler

Thanks



Just by curiosity, did you receive any other ambigrams ? In case yes, can you share them ?
[Each ambigram seen once is one more tool available for a future "ambigram challenge"]
nums

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Posted: Dec 25, 2004 8:12pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of nums  

MisterE21 or EmmanuelM Your work is great care to try another?.... Here is my name and the mane of my company....

Jeff Teate or Jeffrey Allen Teate

Nothin' Up My Sleeve


Jeff
Rob Johnston

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Posted: Dec 29, 2004 3:08pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rob Johnston  

Amazing book!



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Rob Johnston

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Posted: Jan 3, 2005 3:14pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rob Johnston  

Well I sat down and made an ambigram of my name. I still have to clean it up a bit, but it already looks great.



"Genius is another word for magic, and the whole point of magic is that it is inexplicable." - Margot Fonteyn
EmmanuelM

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Posted: Jan 15, 2005 4:54pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of EmmanuelM  

So here is the "JeffTeate" ambigram I came up with...
I tried differently but in the end I could not avoid the "one-letter-by-one-letter ambigram" which are not the nicest ones, but hey, at least there's something to see.


Click here to view attached image.
nums

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Posted: Jan 15, 2005 9:13pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of nums  

EmmanuelM, Thank you oh so much, with your permission I am going to have that embroidered onto a hat. Also I got your E-mail. To second another above "Most magi are the friendliest and creative among the human race"

Jeff
Jonathan Townsend

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Posted: Jan 18, 2005 4:07pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jonathan Townsend  

This thread turned out to be a pleasant surprise. EmmanualM, thanks!

...to all the coins I've dropped here
Quinn

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Posted: Jan 20, 2005 1:10pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Quinn  

I just discovered this thread a couple days ago, and have now wasted an embarrassing number of hours playing with ambigrams and trying to do them myself. I would like to simultaneously thank the posters here for the links and images, and curse them for introducing yet another seductive time-suck into my life.

I'll post a couple when I get a chance to scan them.
rvigon

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uk
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Posted: Jan 21, 2005 12:36am    Reply with quote   View Profile of rvigon  

I have not read the book only read da vinci coads but what is there context in the book and what would a ambigram of ricki vigon look like does it have more that one possible look

"No brilliance is required in magic, just determination and relatively clean fingernails."
EmmanuelM

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Posted: Jan 21, 2005 8:08am    Reply with quote   View Profile of EmmanuelM  

Quote:

On 2005-01-21 00:36, rvigon wrote:
what would a ambigram of ricki vigon look like does it have more that one possible look


Well, you know, if I write in curvy lowercases "igon", then turn it 180° and put a dot on the 2nd bar of the inverted curvy lowercase "n", I already can read "ricki" without asking for too much imagination. So since your name, like Rob Johnston's, looks incredibly ambigram friendly, there is surely lots of very different possible looks.

I can have a go if you want... Or you can try yourself first to have fun to discover it yourself...

EmmanuelM

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Posted: Jan 21, 2005 8:30am    Reply with quote   View Profile of EmmanuelM  

PS : I see in this forum several persons writing they cannot share their ambigrams yet because they need to scan what they have done. But we all know scanners are not that common, etc..

So in fact do not hesitate to use digital cameras instead ! All my ambigrams here are done like this :

1) I write with a dark pen on a white paper the ambigrams I came up with, and with standard size of writing (ie : the "Jeff Teate" I wrote was 2 cms high only)
2) I take a photo with a standard digital camera (mine is 3 years old), close range
3) I download it onto the computer
4) I open it with the open source program Image Manipulator GIMP which works for Windows 98 and after, which is very stable and user-friendly for such things.
5) I change it B&W, do some levelling/blur/contrast (and once you have done it for one ambigram, you'll go faster for the next ones), and here you have my posts.
6) You can also manipulate them to make them a bit better in a few seconds (in my original writing the letters of "JeffTeate" had much more space between them).
7) Oh and don't forget to do only half of it, and obtain the other part by doing a symmetry on it with GIMP, so you have a true ambigram

Note that this enables one to make very nice "huge" regular letters with absolutely no talent in drawing them so huge at hand (not to mention with a mouse)... It's just little regular letters nicely zoomed.
rvigon

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uk
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Posted: Jan 21, 2005 11:55am    Reply with quote   View Profile of rvigon  

Could you have ago with my name then ricki vigon and again what is the context of it in the b ook

"No brilliance is required in magic, just determination and relatively clean fingernails."
EmmanuelM

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Posted: Jan 21, 2005 3:39pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of EmmanuelM  

Quote:

On 2005-01-21 11:55, rvigon wrote:
Could you have ago with my name then ricki vigon and again what is the context of it in the b ook


Google "Angels et Demons" and "Ambigrams" together and you'll find many references, from the cover of the book to a corpse with a paper whose signature is an ambigram of "Illuminati".

As for your name, see the attached image.

Click here to view attached image.
magiczak

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Posted: Jan 24, 2005 11:39pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magiczak  

WOW that is AMAZING!!!

I'd hate to impose.....but it is toooooo cool.

Would you mind trying my name!!

Zak Koretz or Zachary Koretz

YAY!

Thanks


Zak

**Zak**
magicgeorge

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Belfast
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Posted: Jan 26, 2005 11:11am    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgeorge  

These are very cool. I've never seen them before. I've been trying my stage name all day, (on a bus journey writing it on the back of a newspaper). I got in and wrote it free hand into PhotoShop.A lot of the cases are wrong, is that important? Here are my first 3 attempts at ambigrams:
1st: pod
2nd: mad paw
3rd:

Click here to view attached image.

Magician Belfast
magicgeorge

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Posted: Jan 26, 2005 12:16pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgeorge  

Hey Zack, I had a go at your name, I only a beginner so it's not up to Emmanuel's standard but here you go:


Click here to view attached image.

Magician Belfast
magiczak

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Granada Hills, CA
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Posted: Jan 27, 2005 2:23am    Reply with quote   View Profile of magiczak  

Cool! Thanks, It is great!

**Zak**
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