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TC Ryder

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Posted: Jul 15, 2009 8:16pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of TC Ryder  

My grandfather gave me an old Thayer die box but it also has another spin on it that allows you to make a ball vanish from it. It is the size of a ping pong ball. Has anyone ever seen one of these and know more about it.

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magiquarian

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Posted: Jul 29, 2009 7:50pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magiquarian  

You are very fortunate! This little beauty is very rare. If you want a copy of the original instructions I have them. Pls send a SASE. Check and make sure bottom is stamped THAYER
Rainboguy

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Posted: Aug 23, 2009 10:30pm    Rainboguy is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Rainboguy  

My Mel Babcock Rainbow Die Box is pretty hard to beat, especially with Larry Wilfong's performance routine!

But.....if only I could find an original Delben Die Box......wow are they ever special!

Anybody out there have one?
magicbyswh

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Posted: Sep 12, 2009 8:02pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicbyswh  

I just bought an Abbotts Shenanigan Die Box and there were no instructions. Any one out there have the instructions so I could get a copy. Please pm me
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Kjellstrom

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Posted: Sep 20, 2009 3:44pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Kjellstrom  

Quote:

On 2009-08-23 22:30, Rainboguy wrote:
My Mel Babcock Rainbow Die Box is pretty hard to beat, especially with Larry Wilfong's performance routine!



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http://www.nwi.net/~magicmel/rainbowdiebox.html

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Wizard of Oz

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Posted: Oct 27, 2009 9:14pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Wizard of Oz  

Mel's Rainbow Die Box is da bomb. I had to join a health club just to gain the strength to lift the thing. I love that man. In a manly collector type of way.
sthielman

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Posted: Nov 20, 2009 7:22pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of sthielman  

I have to concur with the opinions about the greatness of the Rainbow Die Box. But all of Mel's Die Boxes are great, they just serve different purposes. For your real work, his regular die boxes are very, very good.
Julie

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Posted: Nov 21, 2009 3:22pm    Julie is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Julie  

Quote:

On 2009-10-27 21:14, Wizard of Oz wrote:
Mel's Rainbow Die Box is da bomb. I had to join a health club just to gain the strength to lift the thing. I love that man. In a manly collector type of way.


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Mel also makes the Rainbow Die Box in a smaller size which is very easy to handle.

Julie
magicgettogether

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Posted: Jan 30, 2010 1:38pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

My vote is for the Twin Di, its so versatile that any routine you do with it would probably be original

magicbyswh, Abbotts should have instructions for your Shenanigan Die Box (which is my second favorite die box) or I can send them to you. Let me know if you still need them.

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Julie

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Posted: Feb 22, 2010 8:27pm    Julie is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Julie  

How is Abbott's quality these days? Any recent purchasers of their classic apparatus have an opinion?

Julie
magicgettogether

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Posted: Feb 23, 2010 9:13am    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

I bought mine (the one you saw in the demo) over a year ago and the quality was great, the last one that went out the gentleman commented he was very pleased with the quality.

The only complaint I have ever heard on these was a biggy, Abbotts made up a special black one for someone and accidently sent a black die with a green box (which was a shipping dept error). That gentleman also complimented the quality (Abbott's sent him out the correct colored die).

They are sold out for the moment but they are in the process of making 3 more, hopefully by the end of the week. If you like I can post some pics on the quality of this lot.

I am not sure if Bud West makes this product or not, I will check it out as I know he makes the Shenanigan and a few others for Abbotts.

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M-Illusion

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Posted: Feb 23, 2010 2:59pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of M-Illusion  

I have both a Twin Di (about 3-4 years old) and a Shenanigan, which I bought about a year ago. Both are of good quality and serve me well! The Twin Di is the finale for my platform shows and the Shenanigan is occasionally used as an in-one piece for my larger show.
magicgettogether

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Posted: Feb 23, 2010 6:39pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of magicgettogether  

Originally made by Arturo, Twin Di has been made by the Bud West family the last couple decades, the die ***** is made by one of Abbott's machinist (which explains how they mixed up the wrong die with the wrong box once).

There is a testimonial on the product page along with a demo

http://www.abbottmagic.com/Abbotts-Twin-Di-ABBtwindi.htm

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Julie

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Posted: Feb 26, 2010 12:00am    Julie is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Julie  

Bud West must be about a zillion years "young" by now. Does he still really produce magic props?

Julie
Regan

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Posted: Apr 1, 2010 4:56pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Regan  

I wanted to modify a die box for a certain routine, so I bought a cheap model. I guess it came from India. I did the modifications and I use it mostly for Christmas related shows.

Anyway, I have always planned on getting a good one someday. Well, today is the day! (Almost) I called Mel Babcock and I ordered a See-Thru Block Box with a matching Block Production Box. Now I won't be able to sleep until it arrives!

I really like the concept of the See-Thru Block Box. The Rubik's Cube-type block appeals to me more than a die. I always thought the re-appearance of the die in a hat (or whatever) seemed kind of hokey, since you have to go there before the die is placed in the box. The method used by the See-Thru Block Box eliminates the need for that, and having the Block Production Box to reappear the block will be icing on the cake!

I am excited!

Regan

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brangwinj

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Posted: May 4, 2010 9:00pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of brangwinj  

I have several of Mel's die boxs great boxs great guy . I will add one story I left my see through box in a cool inside room several months and then did a show without checking box --side openings would not pull out swelled tight --check your props .
MaxfieldsMagic

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Posted: May 16, 2010 10:19pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of MaxfieldsMagic  

Quote:

On 2010-05-04 21:00, brangwinj wrote:
I have several of Mel's die boxs great boxs great guy . I will add one story I left my see through box in a cool inside room several months and then did a show without checking box --side openings would not pull out swelled tight --check your props .



I had that happen with a drawer box, but fortunately it corrected itself when the weather changed. Acoustic guitars also tend to need TLC with the seasons if you live in a climate where the temperature and humidity vary quite a bit.

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Regan

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Posted: May 17, 2010 12:43pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Regan  

Thanks for the headsup on the sliding end panels. I'll second that Mel is a great guy, and that he makes great die boxes! I love my Babcock set!

I'll secnd the acoustic guitar humidity theory also. I own 6 guitars, and my daughter has 2, so that makes a total of 8 in our house. Three of them are acoustic. I am very careful with my best acoustic that I use at my live gigs. I have not had any problems, but I know what can happen.

I have wanted a Taylor acoustic guitar for a long time. The humidity factor is one thing that has scared me away forom buying one. The neck is so true on Taylos guitars, and the action can be kept lower than it can on most acoustics. They play fantastic, which is one of the appealing things about Taylors. However, humidity has to be controlled or real problems can occur.

Regan

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Rainboguy

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Posted: Jun 12, 2010 9:07am    Rainboguy is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Rainboguy  

Here's a link to a photo showing what I think is, arguably, the best die box ever made....the Delben Die Box

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6593762
epoptika

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Florida
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Posted: Jun 14, 2010 10:36pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of epoptika  

Wandering off topic here but speaking of Taylor guitars, Regan, have you seen the video on YouTube called "United Breaks Guitars"? Very entertaining.
GeorgeG

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Posted: Jun 15, 2010 11:58am    Reply with quote   View Profile of GeorgeG  

Owning a huge Alan Warner collection (oil rubbed teak wood), humidity and temperature is a pain. I keep a humidity gauge and thermometer in the room I store my collection and have had for a few years now a console humidifier that can handle the whole house (gets very dry during the winter months in Southern California). Fight with the wife about running the A/C when no one is home during the summers.

BTW, also have 3 guitars (one is a Martin acoustic, the other two solid bodies electrics)

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Stevethomas

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Posted: Jun 15, 2010 5:11pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Stevethomas  

Come to the South if you need more humidity. Other end of the spectrum, trust me.

Steve
Nat

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Posted: Jul 10, 2010 8:34am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Nat  

I am lucky to own a Cassini Die Box - beautiful.

Any references to get a Gunther-Mendoza or Harbin, Jr.Die Box?

Thanks.
Nathan

Quote:

On 2010-06-12 09:07, Rainboguy wrote:
Here's a link to a photo showing what I think is, arguably, the best die box ever made....the Delben Die Box

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6593762

gimpy2

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Posted: Jul 16, 2010 9:45am    Reply with quote   View Profile of gimpy2  

I spent a lot of time sweeping floors at Delben back in the 70's. Several have mentioned the Delben jumbo die box. I only remember one size of die box being built. Did they do other sizes or just the jumbo?

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MagicLaw

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Posted: Sep 6, 2010 10:14pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of MagicLaw  

I have a good collection of die boxes ranging over 80+ yrs. Mel Babcock's Die Boxes are phenomenal and probably my favorite, but my most collectible is a miniture 1930s Thayer die box (hallmarked). It is about 3" long with a 3/4" die. Incredibly rare and I've only seen one or two others on the market. I also have a regular-sized Thayer die box, 2 Milson Worth die boxes (Joe Berg style), and several others.

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Wizard of Oz

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Posted: Sep 22, 2010 9:34pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Wizard of Oz  

Quote:

On 2010-06-12 09:07, Rainboguy wrote:
Here's a link to a photo showing what I think is, arguably, the best die box ever made....the Delben Die Box

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6593762



You're dead on. This is a beautiful box.

Then again, it seems like anything with "Delben" on it is beautiful.
Rainboguy

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Posted: Jan 14, 2011 12:53pm    Rainboguy is on-line  Reply with quote   View Profile of Rainboguy  

Wizard of Oz........and to think I could have bought one from Ben Stone for about a hundred bucks and passed........so I bought a set of his linking coathangers instead.....BOY....are they ever beautiful!! And his "Coathanger Capers" routine is awesome~! GREAT MOVES!
Wizard of Oz

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Posted: Jan 14, 2011 8:15pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Wizard of Oz  

Doesn't sound like a bad situation to be in Rainboguy!






shhhh. speak quietly and type in lower case so no one hears us... do you think he still has this box available for $100? I'll take it! but shhhhh. it's our secret.
fortasse

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Posted: Feb 6, 2011 6:56pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of fortasse  

The Babcock boxes are highly recommended. Superb craftsmanship.

Fortasse
bmehagan

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Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:55pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of bmehagan  

May 2012
Where can I get a decent Die Box for around $100-$121?
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