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Topic: Looking For a Shoelace/Key Ring Trick
Message: Posted by: bropaul (Jan 22, 2005 08:35AM)
Hi... I was doing a renaissance festival in Minneapolis a couple of years ago and I went to a private party with some of the performers. I was talking with Arsen from Paris (sorry about the spelling) and he showed me a quick, but very nice trick with a shoelace and a key ring. It penetrated on and off a couple of times and was very clean.

It uses a shoelace gaffed with a magnet. He told me that it was made in France, but Tannen's had a knock off that wasn't as good. Maybe they have manufacturing rights, not sure.

In any case I'm trying to track one down. I don't know the name of it or the manufacture. If anyone has any information about it, drop me a post or a PM.

Thanks in advance.
Message: Posted by: euphoria5150 (Jan 22, 2005 08:49AM)
MAK Magic from Columbus, OH makes 'Swing 'a' ring', which is, what Tannen calls 'Ring and String trick'. I have a video tape of a full 5 phase routine that Tannens produced. I would be willing to trade for one of your tapes; send it to you via Postal mail.

The other effect Jay Sankey created call 'Leaving Home' that is deal with a key and string. It uses ungimmicked items, but looks great! Are you sure he wasnt using this? It uses 2 keys, but looks great.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jan 23, 2005 10:23AM)
Also check out Just A Key, from Porper.
Message: Posted by: bropaul (Jan 24, 2005 07:09AM)
Russell, This little gem was definitely a gaffed shoelace with a magnet. The key ring was a single spiral type ring with a couple of keys on it. Short, sweet, visual.

Pete, do you have contact information for Porper?
Message: Posted by: wsduncan (Jan 25, 2005 01:22AM)
Would LOVE to check out the Porper stuff, but I have a morgage...

I got a chance to see a set of his cups at PCAM this year and OH MY GOD! what a beautiful set.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jan 25, 2005 04:17PM)
Porper/Biro gaffed key, "Just a Key" is not that much $$$ -- look at http://www.stevensmagic.com or http://www.hocus-pocus.com
Message: Posted by: David Todd (Mar 4, 2005 11:04AM)
I finally purchased Just A Key and it arrived two days ago .

I've been working with and I like it a lot . Highly recommended .


Pete, btw, I have one little beef you could pass along to Joe Porper: how come it's exposed on Porper's web site ? I know that magicians are curious to see what they're getting , but I think the hint about "it's the Brema Nut principle built in to a key" featured in all the advertising is enough to tell the guys what they're getting . Showing an exposed view photo of the actual gaff on a web site isn't necessary is it ? These days [i]everything[/i] gets archived/cached by Google and other search engines. It's unlikely , but not impossible that folks who ought not to even be aware about the existence of such things (the Just a Key gaff or a Locking Key ring , etc. ) could find these photos.
Message: Posted by: Larry Barnowsky (Mar 4, 2005 08:21PM)
The ring off showlace effect that Tannen carried many years ago was created by the late Bob McAllister. I wasn't aware it was copied from anyone else.
Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Mar 6, 2005 12:37PM)
Hey, Paul, you may want to check out Ring-Scape by Fantasma.

[url=http://www.murphysmagicsupplies.com/catalog/magicby/fantasma/html/ringscape.html]Here's the link:[/url]

I have had these for two years and have had no problems with the shoelaces unlike the one I bought from Tannen's (Soft Shoelace). By the way, you get two shoelaces with Ring-Scape which allows for free choice of shoelaces and additional routining.

Message: Posted by: Nicholas (Mar 6, 2005 02:48PM)
That's odd. I have exactly what Paul is describing. But, when I dug back into my papers, I found that, in this case, it was called Ring...Off. Furthermore, it doesn't say who created it, manufactured it, or sold it. It must have been yet another royal Knock...Off.
Message: Posted by: A.J. (Mar 7, 2005 02:03PM)
Bro Paul,
Contact Steven's Magic...the specific effect you are asking about came from France...I think the magician is named Mayol, but I'm not positive on that. He was at Steven's both at the World Magic Seminar in Las Vegas several years ago selling this item.

Message: Posted by: Tanner (Mar 9, 2005 07:30PM)
I had a similar trick, but with a normal length of rope and a large metal ring...perhaps it was another knockoff?

Message: Posted by: timofy (Mar 12, 2005 06:11AM)
How about on foot by richard sanders
Message: Posted by: flimnar (Mar 13, 2005 01:21AM)
You could adapt the rink on string routine on Dan Turcotte's youdomagic.com
It has 3 phases that look great and are fun to perform.

Message: Posted by: mb5191 (Mar 13, 2005 08:49AM)
I have succeded in making my own. You have to get hold of a strong Rare earth magnet and hollow string. PM me if you need any instructions. You can also get the ring at A.C Moore or any crafts shop. If you succede in making it you WILL save $$$$.]

Magical Max
Message: Posted by: bropaul (Mar 16, 2005 07:27AM)
Thanks A.J.

I am contacting Stevens as we speak and I'm waiting for a reply. I'll let you know where this leads. I think you have the answer at this point.

It was a very nice and visual effect and the ring was a set of keys with a small spiral key ring.

I'll post a reply when I hear back from Stevens. Once again thanks for the help.

Here is the response from Mark Stevens:

Yes, it's a great effect. The best ones we got were from Paris... Henry Mayoral's. Unfortunately, we don't have it anymore... However, there is a cheaper version called, "SWING A RING" For about $15, available elsewhere I'm sure.

Thanks for checking
Mark Stevens

So the lost is found... It is available under that name from you dealers if you want to take a look at it it is at: http://www.makmagic.com/Sections/product_picture.asp?strProductID=P2891#disp

Thanks for all your help and if you decide to do this it looks great with a spiral ring with a couple of car keys on it.