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Topic: Muscle pass observation--try it with two coins, the top one smaller than the other.
Message: Posted by: travisb (Jan 31, 2005 07:34PM)
I haven't been able to get it consistent yet (then again, my normal muscle pass isn't consistent either), but if you get it right, you can get just the top coin to jump, while the bottom coin stays in your hand. The bottom coin pushes the top coin into the air, and then stops on your hand.

I can't really think of a use for it, but give it a try, maybe you'll think of something. Oh, and you [i]can[/i] make both jump, so you have to get the knack of getting just the top one to jump. Try it with a variety of sizes of coins until you find one that works for you.

-Travis

P.S. Maybe in a routine where before one coin vanishes from your hand, you first demonstrate that the smaller of the two coins (maybe it's an "escape-artist coin," or some nonsense) in your hand really wants to get out, while the big one wants to stay...

Like I said, I haven't really thought about it.
Message: Posted by: nostrings (Feb 1, 2005 12:29PM)
Have you tried the muscle pass with two coins the same size a buddy of mine recommeneded it to help learn the muscle pass
Message: Posted by: the74rock (Feb 1, 2005 12:39PM)
You don't want to use 2 coins of different sizes. use 2 coins of the same size.
Message: Posted by: owen.daniel (Feb 1, 2005 01:04PM)
I have tried this to no avail...however here is a small discovery I made! If you have the smaller coin to the side slightly (furhter towards the forefinger), then when you muscle pass the lower (larger) coin, the top coin will just flip over to the side...maybe for some sort of coins across routine. The coins make a noise, but it is a bit early...whether this could still be deceptive, I do not know.
Roger Klause had an idea that appeared in Richard's Almanac, in which two coins were muscle passed silently, so that the audience are only awear of the one coin having gone across. This is very difficult, and I can do it occasionally. If you can learn it however, I can see this being a very useful tool.
If you want some more ideas for the move, PM me!
Owen
Message: Posted by: travisb (Feb 1, 2005 06:22PM)
I've tried it a bit more, and it seems like the trick is to do the muscle pass [i]incorrectly[/i], so that the bottom coin doesn't actually jump. (BTW, if I do this with two coins of the same size, I can't get it to work.)

Try using a big, thick coin for the lower coin (that's what I'm doing, anyways...), and a smaller, thinner (lighter) coin for the top coin. Position the lower coin in a very shallow classic palm position (close to the fingertips, rather than close to the wrist). When you squeeze to pop the coin, your thumb prevents it from leaving your hand (because the coin is so shallow). The bottom coin, which had been placed on top--with one edge touching your palm near the "karate-chop" side--should jump out, while the big coin stays.

See if that works.

-Travis

P.S. Muscle-passing two coins with no noise sounds like a challenge!
Message: Posted by: bdekolta (Feb 2, 2005 01:50AM)
Klause's two-coin silent muscle pass can be done consistently with no noise. Just requires the right coins and a delicate touch.

~ Dan
Message: Posted by: travisb (Feb 2, 2005 04:34PM)
This can also work with the small coin underneath and the big coin on top. The big coin gets launched, but the small coin doesn't go anywhere because your hand is spread wide in order to accomodate the big coin. A slightly different effect, but still kind of interesting (to me!).

-Travis