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Topic: English Penny
Message: Posted by: TommyTheTremendous (Feb 4, 2005 10:34AM)
Whenever I perform Hopping Halves, people love it; but since my peers are teenagers, I get asked if they can inspect the coins. The half-dollar isn't hard to come up with seeing as how it is examinable at the end and not to mention you can get one at your local bank, but where can I buy an English Penny? (please don't say "In England, lol")
Message: Posted by: Vandy Grift (Feb 4, 2005 10:49AM)
Almost any coin shop, I'd call first. I believe I paid about 35 cents apiece for mine.

Vandy
Message: Posted by: calexa (Feb 4, 2005 10:52AM)
The problem with the old English Pennies is, that they are out of use since 1967 (I think this was the year). Now the 2p-coin is about the size of the old 1p-coin, but they are not the same coins.

So even if you can find an old 2p-coin (maybe you should ask a coin dealer), you then will show a coin as a real coin which is no longer in use...

By the way, I was thinking about the same problem. My question is: why is this version of Hopping Halves still produced? It shouldn´t be so diffucult to make a version with a 2p-coin and a half-dollar....

Magixx
Message: Posted by: Vandy Grift (Feb 4, 2005 11:00AM)
My hopping halves have a 1964 English Penny. I had no trouble finding a 1964 English Penny.

I don't think its so strange to use a coin that is no longer in circulation for magic. Unless you want to use a Sacagawea dollar, any dollar coins used in the States are out of circulation. Morgan Dollars haven't been circulated for years but I see plenty of them in magicians hands.

Vandy
Message: Posted by: Rob Elliott (Feb 4, 2005 11:07AM)
If your audience asks to inspect the coins at the onset of the effect, just tell them you'll let them see them in a minute, but you'd like to show them something first; then do the trick. When you're finished, the coins have both vanished so there's nothing left for them to inspect and you're off the hook. If you've done your job right, they'll be so amazed that they'll forget that they ever asked to see the coins in the first place. Mental misdirection is a valuable and effective tool. Use it to your advantage.

If they're asking to see the coins at the end, just say something like, "If you find them, let me know," or "If only I could get them to come back." If you're willing to show them the coins at the end, you're doing the effect a great disservice by admitting that the coins didn't really vanish.
Message: Posted by: Sirakor (Feb 4, 2005 11:16AM)
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On 2005-02-04 11:52, calexa wrote:
The problem with the old English Pennies is, that they are out of use since 1967 (I think this was the year). Now the 2p-coin is about the size of the old 1p-coin, but they are not the same coins.

So even if you can find an old 2p-coin (maybe you should ask a coin dealer), you then will show a coin as a real coin which is no longer in use...

By the way, I was thinking about the same problem. My question is: why is this version of Hopping Halves still produced? It shouldn´t be so diffucult to make a version with a 2p-coin and a half-dollar....

Magixx
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There's quite a difference in size between the current 2p and old 1p I think, and the old 1p is *exactly* the same size as 1/2 $, so I guess it'll stay that way.
Message: Posted by: The Great Smartini (Feb 4, 2005 11:30AM)
The reason that the people may want to see your coins is likely due to the presentation. Check out my post on Hopping Half routine which changes from the focus from the two coin trick where people want to catch you to a love story about two coins. You solve much more through routining and presentation than you ever will through fancy moves. Something to think about.

Another consideration is to update your coins to something more modern. I stopped doing the Hopping Half until very recently when I was able to obtain a Canadian Toonie (new $2 dolar coin) and a Mexican Centavo. I never really liked using an American Half dollar once we started using larger size coins. I noticed when I purchased my coins from Roy Kueppers (see http://www.roykueppers.com) that he makes a Euro coin and so if you really like the trick you can update yours by going through him. He also will do custom work as his version of the Hopping Half didn't include the copper expanded shell. He received some enquiries and now is making some for us. This is what led me to rework Steve Bacho's coins in love routine and put it to poetic verse. I'm still working on making it more flowery but the basic idea is there for me to edit, rework and play with.
Message: Posted by: mrj (Feb 4, 2005 02:16PM)
Spookclub has them for $2.00 Canadian for 4 ungaffed coins.

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Message: Posted by: Daniel Santos (Feb 4, 2005 02:39PM)
http://www.daytonamagic.com

They sell them, too. I think it's 2 for a dollar (US).
Message: Posted by: Dr. Faust (Feb 5, 2005 03:08AM)
You can find them in coin shops and most magic shops. Johnson also sells English Pennies at a very reasonable price. If you can't find one in a coin or magic shop, look on e-Bay or any internet magic site selling Johnson coin tricks.

Hopefully helpful,

Dr. Faust
Message: Posted by: Review King (Feb 24, 2005 01:41AM)
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On 2005-02-04 11:34, TommyTheTremendous wrote:
Whenever I perform Hopping Halves, people love it; but since my peers are teenagers, I get asked if they can inspect the coins. The half-dollar isn't hard to come up with seeing as how it is examinable at the end and not to mention you can get one at your local bank, but where can I buy an English Penny? (please don't say "In England, lol")
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http://www.THEMAGICWAREHOUSE.COM HAS WONDERFUL COINS.
Message: Posted by: tony4938 (Feb 24, 2005 04:24AM)
How many are you after?

I have got quite a few of them I'm willing to send to you.

Let me know.

Tony
Message: Posted by: jolyonjenkins (Feb 24, 2005 06:20AM)
There is a shop on my high street that sells them at 10 to a pound (i.e. about 15 cents each). If you want I could send some.
Message: Posted by: Paul h. (Feb 24, 2005 11:34AM)
I seem to recall paying quite a bit more than other people are paying for these from Hank Lee's when I went to the showroom...Seems like these I either payed to much or was mistaken about the price.

Paul h.
Message: Posted by: Vandy Grift (Feb 24, 2005 02:10PM)
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On 2005-02-24 12:34, Paul h. wrote:
I seem to recall paying quite a bit more than other people are paying for these from Hank Lee's when I went to the showroom...Seems like these I either payed to much or was mistaken about the price.

Paul h.
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I would expect to pay a little more at a magic shop than a coin for them, but not much.
Message: Posted by: jcigam (Feb 24, 2005 03:11PM)
I would take rjenkins up on his offer. Magic Wharehouse is selling them for 10 times the cost. When I was living in England, I made a trade at Davenports, 10 .50 cent pieces for 30 English pennies (comes out to a little more than .15 cents a piece).

Good Luck,

Jered
Message: Posted by: jolyonjenkins (Feb 24, 2005 04:52PM)
Actually I'd be very interested in a trade of English pennies for American half dollars or other large coins.
Message: Posted by: John Long (Feb 26, 2005 12:28PM)
Yeah, I too would glady trade a (english)penny or two for an American half.

I got 24 English pennies for $1.75 on Ebay.
Message: Posted by: andre combrinck (Feb 26, 2005 12:45PM)
I live in South Africa and got pennies from a coin shop.They cost me 30cent(ZAR).Thats about 5c(US).
Andre