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Topic: WANTED Review for-Totally Out of Control by Chris Kenner
Message: Posted by: GeorgeSantos (Feb 9, 2005 09:13PM)
I am requesting for an in depth review for this book called
Totally Out of Control by Chris Kenner. Is it mostly card effects? mostly coin effects? or a balanced mix of both?

I searched the Café and only found this http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=88525&forum=110

A thorough review will help.

Thanks. :hotcoffee:

Here are the list of effects:

Missing Link
Three Fry
Travlrs 1
For 4 for
In Ten City
Long Gone Silver
Menage et trois
Cloth and Pence
Print Shop
Twin Peeks
The Deep
Into the Woods
The Five Faces of Sybil
Bad Credit
3,2, Gone
Paint by Numbers
Must be 21 to Enter
Poker in the Eyes
S.W. Elevator
Sybil the Trick
Five Speed
3-D Ropes
Message: Posted by: therntier (Feb 9, 2005 09:50PM)
The book is very good. It is a fairly equal balance between card and coin effects. Obviously, by reading the names of the effects, there are other props needed as well.

I really enjoy this book. I would say that the coin effects are for the intermediate to advance magician and the card effects range from selfworking to advanced. You will find something in this book that you will use.

As you have probably read, the book is rather entertaining, complete with cartoon puzzles and one-liners. I am rather indifferent towards these. I don't want a book to put me to sleep, but I buy a book on magic for the knowledge inside. And, in the case of Kenner's book, the knowledge provides adequate reason to stay interested in the book.

If you have a chance to purchase the book, don't hesitate. When you get it, look at Twister. In my opinion, it removes the few weak parts of reset to make an incredibly powerful effect. After that, pick any other trick, you won't be dissapointed.

Message: Posted by: the74rock (Feb 9, 2005 11:00PM)
I got a brand new copy for sale pm me if you are interested.
Message: Posted by: dg magic (Feb 10, 2005 04:23PM)
I agree...this book is totally worth every penny....ive seen chris do this stuff in person...and....WOW
Message: Posted by: tuffnavyrn (Feb 10, 2005 08:29PM)
A good balance of coins and cards which if you master them will be reputation makers. Can't stress enough how valuable this book is. Take note the current printing is the 2nd ed. as the first printing has completly sold out some time ago.
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (Feb 10, 2005 09:42PM)
There's an effect in there that's based on Rollover Aces that's a stunner. I always wanted to work it into a close up act because I came up with a cool extra ending for it... ah, but now I do mentalism.
Message: Posted by: S.Segal (Feb 10, 2005 10:26PM)
On 2005-02-10 22:42, Greg Arce wrote:
There's an effect in there that's based on Rollover Aces that's a stunner. I always wanted to work it into a close up act because I came up with a cool extra ending for it... ah, but now I do mentalism.

"Paint by Numbers"... A very cool effect. Greg, I am interested in hearing your ending for it. PM?

Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (Feb 10, 2005 11:28PM)
Well, I figured you could tell the tale of being a magician is like a being an artist. You do the effect as described and say you'd like to show them your new canvas. You turn over the mat and brush out the various cards then you say, "I always like to sign my work." You now take the rest of the deck and spread it face up, but the cards are all blank except they have your signature running throw them in large scale.
P.S. For those that know how to do the signature: basically take the needed blank cards and do a tight spread then take a large magic marker and sign your name across them as you hold the cards down
Message: Posted by: montz (Feb 11, 2005 03:05AM)
Cool idea Greg. Just another quick thought, if someone wanted to make this up, is that you could have half the deck blank backed, and half blank faced... If you think about it, that would give you some freedom to show the deck as normal, and then one h*** p*** later, you've got your big finish.

Message: Posted by: GeorgeSantos (Feb 11, 2005 05:48AM)
Chris Kenner's "3 Fly" is gaffless right? Only sleight of hand?

Do I need to purchase some gimmicks and gaffs for some effects in the book?
Message: Posted by: S.Segal (Feb 11, 2005 09:20AM)
Great idea Greg...

George, to answer your question, 3 Fly is gaffless. But there are some other routines in there that are killer and do require gaffs (or extra apparatus).

Message: Posted by: GeorgeSantos (Feb 11, 2005 06:46PM)
Thanks Syd!
Message: Posted by: GeorgeSantos (Feb 13, 2005 01:16AM)
Does Chris Kenner use soft coins? Or just ordianry American Silver Dollars?
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Feb 13, 2005 06:00AM)
To my knowldge, he is using "soft" coins.

Message: Posted by: Christian Z. (Aug 2, 2005 01:50PM)
I just got the book and it's really good. I found a few things I could use, and I'm looking forward to the coins. GET THIS BOOK. His coin work is really good and will look good when done right, such as his 3 Fly. His Missing Link is really clever, the trick is just as it is told, 2 bands link and you can actually DANGLE the band, and unlink them and give it back, no gaffs, just straight impromptu. His card stuff is pretty good also, In Ten City was one I did like alot, it's full of visual changes and the color changes aren't the everyday ones, they're different type of color changes. There is nothing but hard hitters in this book, even the easy ones would probably fool me if a magician showed them to me. Get the book. Enough said.
Message: Posted by: Amazing Samdini (Aug 5, 2005 02:31PM)
Thanks for the reminder, guys. I will re-visit this book and take a look at Rollover Aces. When I bought the first edition it was beyond my abilities. But like all of us, we improve (hopefully) our skills. This is definitely a book to grow into.
Message: Posted by: saheer (Aug 24, 2005 12:35PM)
Good book.
Regarding the soft coins, he uses slicks - worn american silver dollars.
Gaffs - I can remember some are needed for a rope effect.
Some of the card tricks needed setups but I don't remember any needing gaffs.

As Samdini mentioned, most of the stuff does require a lot of practice and rehearsal.
Message: Posted by: Andrew Loh (Aug 24, 2005 09:18PM)
Guys, I am still in doubts, what is the ratings you guys give this book??

I know Chris Kenner is just like a top names in magic, but not really sure this book suitable to me or not???

To be honest, I don't used a lot of gaffed things in my act, so, I really hope that someone can tell me whether this kind of book suits me or not, I am really appreciate that!


Message: Posted by: LeConte (Aug 25, 2005 02:10AM)
It is not Chris Kenner's 3 Fly. The book is great, by not without considerable controversy.
Message: Posted by: pierre888 (Jan 31, 2018 11:37PM)
Considering buying this book too from ebay... generally positive reviews on this book... hopefully it will be a classic
Message: Posted by: atkinsod (Feb 1, 2018 08:39AM)
You can see the complete contents along with brief descriptions of what each effect is about at https://magicref.net/magicbooks/booksjr/kennerchrisoutofcontrol.htm