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Topic: Hang Em High
Message: Posted by: macp (Feb 18, 2005 12:16AM)
I need some help with a couple of questions.
Bob Sheets has an effect called Hang 'em High and I found it on Hank Lee.
I also found a video called The Magic of Reading - B.J. Hickman Video Vol Two
and on it was an effect called Hang 'em High.
I wonder if anyone know if it is the same effect or two different ones?
Is the other effects any good on the tape?
Is there an gimmick on the rope for the effect Hang 'em High or do you just prop the rope.(I just wonder because if I order the tape without Bob Sheets routine Hang 'em High and don't get the gimmick I can`t still do it)
Or the gimmick can be by yourself?

///Mac
Message: Posted by: Ron Reid (Feb 18, 2005 06:35AM)
Hi Mac:

Your best bet is to order Bob Sheets' video directly from Denny and Lee; I believe Denny is the only dealer who carries the video. The video will show you the performance of the routine, and how to make the special rope.

You'll need special gimmicks called "Tarbell gimmicks" which Denny sells too. The gimmicks are about $5.00 and the video is about $30.00. You'll also want to get the correct type of rope (it needs to be hollow - no core). Denny can supply you with all of this.

The website is http://www.dennymagic.com

Ron
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 18, 2005 11:39AM)
And... come to the World Magic Seminar in Las Vegas this coming week and have Sheets help you. He'll be there.
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Feb 18, 2005 01:06PM)
Bob Sheet’s Hang em High is a rope thru body trick. It is somewhat similar to the version that Fantasio performed over 20 years ago and the version that Henry Evans now performs.

However, Bob’s has the addition of using two spectators to help hold a very long length of rope and even enters a tug of war with them (proving the solidity of the rope). Bob’s version uses a standard gimmick to make the trick work.

It is a killer trick.

I haven’t a clue what the B.J. Hickman effect is! I could not find any description of the effect or the video even going to his web site. I suspect that it is NOT at all like the Bob Sheets trick. I don’t even know if it is a rope trick.

Hickman does not list the contents of the video on his website he only states “The Magic of Reading” BJ Hickman video, $30.00. Instructional for magicians. This is a well produced video of BJ's longest running school and library program.”

I suggest that you email Mr. Hickman and ask him directly to describe the effect. His email address is: bj@bjhickman.com

If you are looking for a rope thru body trick you cannot go wrong using the Bob Sheets version.
Message: Posted by: Ron Reid (Feb 19, 2005 09:01AM)
Concerning the BJ Hickman video, I believe Hang 'em High may be part of the video tape, but as a performance only. I have BJ Hickman's other tapes, and they are performance-only (with some commentary) of his shows, designed to show his routines for standard effects. I believe the Reading video just shows how he's packaged standard effect into a reading themed show. So, there's probably Hang 'em High in the show, but no explanation.

Ron
Message: Posted by: JL608 (Feb 19, 2005 12:08PM)
I know Hank Lee sells Hang Em High complete with rope (ready to perform) for $20.00.

It's one of the easiest, most baffling rope tricks ever invented. Looks absolutely impossible.

Have fun!
Message: Posted by: macp (Feb 24, 2005 03:55AM)
Thanks for all reply.
But can you do Bob Sheets routine without using your hands when your body pass thrue the rope?
Or do you just walk thrue without using your hands?
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Feb 24, 2005 06:34AM)
NO! The hands must be used. You are not walking thru the rope you are pulling the rope thru your body (there is a subtle difference there).
Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Feb 25, 2005 12:28PM)
If I'm not mistaken, Tannen's was selling a similar item. They still may be selling it. I bought it 2 or 3 years ago. Funny thing is, the price was originally $20 then many magicians began to buy it and it jumped to either $35 or $40. You can try them as well.

Jimmy

Just to add one thing to my previous post: both Bob Sheets Hang 'Em High and Tannen's Rope through Body use the same gimmick/principle. The one difference is in the quality of the rope. The rope used in Bob Sheet's trick resembles more of a clothesline while the rope used in Tannen's version is a nicer (thicker and brighter) quality rope.

Jimmy
Message: Posted by: Dario (Mar 2, 2005 02:00AM)
Does anybody perform the trick usually?

How do you get the rope from the hands of the spectators in a natural way?

I think you end in a critical position. I wanted to perform this tricks for adult audience, but the only solution I found is to tie the rope to some place and do it without the spectators help or use two little children as helpers so in a quick shake I free the rope from the hands of the child.

Any comments?

Darío
Message: Posted by: the Sponge (Mar 2, 2005 02:13AM)
You could add another set of the gimmick.

after the applause pose, coil the rope starting at the middle and doing one end at at time. a simple thank you and they understand everything is over and you are collecting the rope.

s
Message: Posted by: MagiUlysses (Mar 2, 2005 07:45AM)
Greetings and Salutations,

If you understand the gimmick and its handling, it's easy enough to let even adults pull on the ends to show the rope is legitimate, then it's all a matter of stage direction and working with the volunteers to keep the gimmick to yourself.

I used the trick numerous times and it never failed me. For my act, I tied a loud pair of overly large, even for me, boxers to the rope and it always got screams and laughs, and the ditching of the boxers gave me a great excuse for quickly gathering up the ends from the volunteers. And the volunteers I used ranged from kids to teens to adults -- whoever happened to be sitting in the front row at the time of my shows, and all the shows were outdoors semi-surrounded.

Go for it. It's a great tricks and gets a good audience response.

Joe in KC
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Mar 2, 2005 08:03AM)
Getting the rope ends out of the spectator’s hands is no problem at all. Watch Bob do it on his tape or read the instructions that came with the prop and you will have all you need for spectator management.

Easiest way, simply nod toward each spectator helper and say “thank you, take a bow” and you’ll find they will drop the rope ends and bow. If they hold the ends as they bow simply say “drop the rope and bow again”. Direct the applause toward your helpers, coil up the rope as you help them off the performing area.

As to doing it a second time with a second gimmick, it is possible but will be very cumbersome, if you have the trick (Bob’s version, Fantasio’s version, or Henry Evans version) then you know exactly what I mean. I do not think that you add anything to the trick by doing it a second time.
Message: Posted by: the Sponge (Mar 2, 2005 08:28AM)
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to do it a second time. if you wanted to fool with a second gimmick, you could drop the rope after you pull it thru yourself. but again, they will let go of the ends with a slight prompt.

s
Message: Posted by: Dario (Mar 2, 2005 07:31PM)
I'll try it sometime.
Thanks
Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Mar 3, 2005 05:07PM)
By the way, I noticed Tannen's had 3 or 4 sets of Hang 'Em High rope trick with written routine. They are selling them at $30.

Jimmy
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Mar 4, 2005 07:54PM)
Do Hang 'Em High and the go into Bisection from Andrew Mayne...gets 'em everytime!
Rope Thru Neck
Head Twister
Hang 'Em High
Bisection...just imagine.

johnny
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jun 9, 2005 08:57AM)
I need help with the gimmicks.
I am using elite rope, Tarbell screw type gimmicks and I glued it with white glue, but it is really loose. Should I just glue it some more?
Thank you in advance,
James
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Jun 9, 2005 01:15PM)
James, the gimmicks should fit snugly in the rope ends to begin with. That is, there should be no wiggle.

To install the Tarbell gimmicks you first prepare the rope ends by coating/painting the inside of the ends with a bit of white glue (Tacky Glue). Now use a dowel the same diameter as the inside of the rope. Wrap wax paper around it (so the glue won’t stick to the dowel/pencil) and insert into the rope ends. Let dry. This stiffens the rope a bit and gives you a surface on which to glue the gimmick. When the glue dries and before you take the dowel out, trim the rope ends square and neat.

Now step two! You coat the gimmick with glue and insert it into the now stiff rope ends. Wrap the ends tightly (as tightly as you can) with thread or string (several wraps) and allow the whole mess to dry. When dry, take off the thread/string wrap. Viola! You should have nice tight gimmicks.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jun 9, 2005 01:16PM)
I don't think the Tarbell's are strong enough. You might try stronger glue, like Testors... there was a trick with Tarbells you drill TINY holes in the sides of the barrel and SEW them on too.
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jun 9, 2005 04:58PM)
Thanks for the technique Harry. My gimmicks actually have tiny holes in them. I was thinking about running thread through there Pete.

I'll try both ways and see.
Thanks Guys!
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jun 10, 2005 02:11AM)
Just received Stevens Magic Catalog last Friday. They have the new Bob Sheet's Hang' Em High! DVD video for $32.50. You get all the handling tips and jokes. There is also included a couple of other Sheet's effects.

Go to http://www.stevensmagic.com and check it out!
Message: Posted by: Tawkin2ya (Jun 10, 2005 04:24PM)
Just wanted to submit my 2 cents, the Tarbell gimmicks that I have also have holes pre-drilled in them. I purchased mine from Magic Inc. they are imported from India and are extemely well made. I use a tip from "Rig up the Ropes" by R.W. Klamm to attach my gimmicks to the rope. I wrap the gimmick with masking tape until it is the desired diameter and then glue it into the rope. The masking tape sticks securely to gimmick whereas glue has a tendency to flake off.
Ray
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Jun 10, 2005 08:35PM)
Hang 'em High is an excellent rope trick, however you can use two ropes devoid of any gimmicks and still pull off the same illusion... and the spectators can tug on the ropes to their hearts content because they are truly ungimmicked.

johnny
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Jun 10, 2005 09:08PM)
Johnny, you don't even need to use two ropes. Grant published a one rope version of the rope through the body. However it is not a straight pull through. You have to wrap the rope around the body. Then two spectators take the ends and pull the rope right through the body. One rope, no gimmick, and impromptu!
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Jun 10, 2005 10:33PM)
I see Daytonamagic.com has it for $24. Sounds like a good effect. Do you always get the tarbell rope or is there another one that might be preferred?
Harry
Is that pull similar to the Scarf Around the Neck method?
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jun 11, 2005 03:36AM)
I have seen the rope and instructions and the stand alone trick has a lot to be desired. I believe you need the video to get the full effect of the presentation. The stand alone does not come with a routine. It only tells the how to. Therefore you are left with a rope and secret only. I believe to get the best out of this item you need the video.
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Jun 11, 2005 02:59PM)
Slim, it is simmilar but not identical. It's in Grant's "Nite Club Magic".

I agree with Bill on this, the printed instructions that come with the trick don't do it justice. Spend a little more and get the tape/DVD and watch how the master pulls it off.
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Jun 11, 2005 05:19PM)
OK...I'm sold!
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Jun 13, 2005 11:53PM)
Hey Harry,

Yeah...I know which trick your talkin' about with just the one rope. I don't like it though because of the wrapping around the body crap, I'm sure for various reasons you understand.... Although the Tenkai Rope thru Neck is excellent!

johnny
Message: Posted by: rmoraleta (Jun 25, 2005 07:04AM)
I have two DVD's of Hang Em High and both do not run well on my DVD player.

I can't watch them. Factory defect?

Does anybody here have the same problem?

I won't order for another replacement for I might end up with 3 DVD's and it is really too much for my kind dealer who sent the replacement for free.
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Jun 25, 2005 08:03PM)
Your DVD is probably only coded to play in the USA. I recently bought a DVD from Canada that does not play in the USA. Dang! It was a DVD I really wanted to watch too!

I don't have this on DVD, my copy is old as the hills and is on videotape. The handling is just too short to require the navigation of a DVD.

I would send them both back to your dealer for a full refund.

Johnny, I used to be bothered by the wrapping around the body thing too! However, lately I have been using that version in a sequence of different effects.

I have three spectators help me. I use two guys and a woman where I can. I will start with the U.F. Grant Rope Through Body with the rope wrapped around the woman and the two guys pulling. The rope passes harmlessly through her body.

Then I go right into arguably the cleanest stage size, cut and restored rope. The rope is cut into two pieces right in the middle. The two pieces are shown separately and held well apart.

The rope is restored. Yes this is the Conradi cut and restored trick. The best there is for platform, parlor, or stage!

I end the sequence with the rope through my body a la’ Hang em High.

It all works smoothly together and fills a stage. On the street it captures and holds the audience by using several members from different sections of the audience.
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Jun 27, 2005 04:35PM)
Hey Harry, that sounds like a really good routine.

johnny
Message: Posted by: God-glorified (Jun 28, 2005 05:40PM)
I like the sound of the routine.....how long would you say the hang em high routine is..................is it a comedy item? If not, can a funny person make it a great comedy item due to potential....I see it has Bob Sheets who is a legend of comedy, but even he does his serious magic.....(well at his lecture he did)
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Jun 29, 2005 09:25AM)
Hang Em High is a comedy routine in the hands of Bob Sheets. It can be played for serious mystery or light comedy. It works either way and either way appears magical. This can be a personality piece.

I am surprised that Bob did not perform this piece at his lecture. As to length…three to five minutes (or more) depending on the presentation skills of the performer.

My sequence uses one rope from start to finish, one pair of scissors, three audience members/spectators, and lasts between 8 and 10 minutes. But then I don’t rush and I give time for each magical moment to sink in, be appreciated (applauded).
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jun 29, 2005 03:23PM)
Harry and rmolaleta,

You can change the country on your computer to read up to 5 countries or areas of the world. The only catch is that you only get to change the country 5 times and after that you have to buy a new DVD player for your computer as it will not play anything but the 5th country you were on.

It is a drawback, but you can see other country formats.
check out control panel, system, hardware, device manger, then click on your DVD drive. Then click on the country region tab. Good luck.
Message: Posted by: todsky (Jun 30, 2005 03:29PM)
Harry, where would I find info about the Conradi cut and restored rope? It sounds good, the way you describe it.
Message: Posted by: rmoraleta (Jun 30, 2005 04:33PM)
[quote]
On 2005-06-29 16:23, wmhegbli wrote:
Harry and rmolaleta,

You can change the country on your computer to read up to 5 countries or areas of the world. The only catch is that you only get to change the country 5 times and after that you have to buy a new DVD player for your computer as it will not play anything but the 5th country you were on.

It is a drawback, but you can see other country formats.
check out control panel, system, hardware, device manger, then click on your DVD drive. Then click on the country region tab. Good luck.
[/quote]

This could be the problem but so far my player has been already converted to multi region. I could play almost anything except for this one from Bob Sheets but will check it again.

Thanks very much for your concern!
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Jul 4, 2005 07:45AM)
I haven’t been here for a while and need to catch up.

Bill thanks for the tips on changing the DVD country settings. I’ll give it a try. I just have to remember to return it to the USA setting by the fifth time!

Todsky, Stevens Magic Emporium sells the Conradi Rope trick all made up and ready to go. Ted Lessey manufactures it so I imagine that you can also get it directly from Ted.

For stage, platform, or even parlor venues the Conradi Rope trick it difficult to beat! It is clear (effect is easily understood), clean, quick, and of course, magical.
Message: Posted by: rmoraleta (Jul 8, 2005 05:15PM)
Hi Harry,

Is that Ted Lesley or a different person?
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jul 10, 2005 09:02PM)
Yes, Ted Lesley (but the gimmicks are at http://www.stevensmagic.com )
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Jul 11, 2005 12:58PM)
My Bad!!! I can’t type worth a darn!! Pete’s right on here, it is Ted Lesley. Pete gave you a good link to the product.

You could check out Ted’s website or email him directly.
Website is at:
http://www.wonderworkshop.de/

Email is:
TedLesley@WonderWorkshop.de