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Topic: Why am I nervous?
Message: Posted by: BerkleyJL (Feb 25, 2005 10:19PM)
My 8-yr-old son is performing the Cups and Balls tomorrow for a competition. I designed his routine and he's been practicing like crazy! I'm sure he's ready and will do very well, but [b]I'm[/b] nervous!
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Feb 26, 2005 12:48AM)
You are nervous because you are experiencing the performance vicariously. The worst thing you can do is let him know you are nervous.

He will do fine.

For a stage name, how about "Joe Sacramento?"
Message: Posted by: mgical (Feb 26, 2005 01:57AM)
Your nerves are due to the fact it is out of your control, and there is nothing you can do to help. He is young enough to not be scared by the thought of failure (something we are taught as we get older, that failure is bad), so he has no fear.

Guess what, because of the lack of fear of failure, he will storm it and will be great.

Failure is a lesson, it is the best way to learn. As a director I ask actors to take risks in rehearsal, sometimes they fail. But one thing is we don't call it failure (it's a negative word), also we have established a safe palce to experiment in a rehearsal room or maybe with an invited audience.
Message: Posted by: cfrye (Feb 26, 2005 02:02AM)
You're not nervous -- you're excited. The two emotions feel almost exactly the same.
Message: Posted by: BerkleyJL (Feb 26, 2005 06:09AM)
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On 2005-02-26 01:48, Bill Palmer wrote:
You are nervous because you are experiencing the performance vicariously. The worst thing you can do is let him know you are nervous.

He will do fine.

For a stage name, how about "Joe Sacramento?"
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Thanks, Bill. I'll try to keep it reined in.

Since my name isn't quite spelled like the college, but it [b]IS[/b] spelled like the fishing equipment (for us rednecks), maybe it should be "Joe Bass?" ;)
Message: Posted by: Doc Dixon (Feb 26, 2005 08:11AM)
Joe,

You're nervous because you fear what is now a wonderful boy may grow up to be a ... MAGICIAN!!!!

You've only yourself to blame.

Doc Dixon
(a man who was once a perfectly respectable 8 year old boy but has morphed into a middle aged magician)

PS:
Seriously, I wish your son the best of luck. Most 8 year olds would opt to do some simple self-working prop-based trick. The fact that he's opted for the cups and balls speaks highly of the boy. I'm sure the learning experience will have great value in other aspects of his life.

When my daughter was 9 I bought her a magic set. I taught her a simple cups and balls routine. She learned to do it fairly quickly, but here's the funny part:

Keep in mind, I hadn't taught her any scripting. So it's Christmas morning and she starts to do the trick for my father-in-law, her grandfather. And she says, "Take a look at at the cup, Grandpap. Make sure there's no trapdoors, ok? Take a walk around it." She sounded like a little carny pitchmen.

And then she continues to say what might charitably be called a bunch of corny lines. Finally, when I was able to stop laughing at my 9 year old female Al Flosso, I asked her, "Chelsea, where did you learn those lines?"

She said, "From you, Daddy. I learned from the best."

I didn't think I ever used lines that corny, but I can't think of any other place she could have heard them, so I accept it. But all the corny lines were worth it for to hear the "I learned from the best" line.

DD
Message: Posted by: Magicmaven (Feb 26, 2005 11:58AM)
I am not degrading you, and your son's skill in any way, but...

You should be nervous. You and especially your son, need to have adrenalin when competing, and being nervous will trigger that. When you are not nervous, you can get in the wrong state of mind at times.

I also agree with Bill Palmer. And you shouldn't make him feel like the weight of the world is on his shoulders. I am sure you are making him feel great though.

Doc D is tottally right, about the getting older thing, and the magic part itself. As you wel know your son is performing a skillful classic trick. Judges will respect that, especially if it is a solid routine, which I am sure it is. (no sarcasm)

I gues the competition is today, so I wish you all the luck!
Message: Posted by: BlackShadow (Feb 26, 2005 06:47PM)
Yes, don't let him know that you are nervous. Just tell him to do his best and whatever happens, the important thing is that he enjoys his act and the other perormances too. Eight is too young to be worrying over magic comps or other exams. Fun and enthusiasm should be at the fore.
Message: Posted by: BerkleyJL (Feb 26, 2005 07:44PM)
Well, my nervousness was unfounded! He came home with 1st place, and one of the judges told me later that his performance was "amazing." It wasn't a magic competition--it was a dramatics competition, so the judges were all laymen. They even laughed at all his jokes! And his acting and skill were enough to pull out the win! I couldn't be more proud.
Message: Posted by: Doc Dixon (Feb 26, 2005 10:54PM)
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: Magicmaven (Feb 26, 2005 11:13PM)
Yeah Congrats to you, and your son!
Message: Posted by: BlackShadow (Feb 27, 2005 02:18AM)
That is cool. It's not often a magic act wins in a contest where different talents are on display.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Feb 27, 2005 08:49PM)
Big congratultions to both of you!
Message: Posted by: BerkleyJL (Feb 27, 2005 09:14PM)
I appreciate the congratulations and I'll pass them on to him, because he's really the one who deserves the credit! I think I was very tough on him in the beginning when I was coaching him, but I let up a little as the date got near. Once I did that, he started putting "himself" into the routine--his own ideas and some original adlibs.

He's putting a lot of work into his magic.

Sometimes I get home from work and find him watching DVD's and videos from my library. He won't sit and read the books, though, but one of these days he's going to be better than me. I can't wait for that!
Message: Posted by: Nicholas (Feb 28, 2005 06:13PM)
Congratualtions to you both!!!
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 28, 2005 11:44PM)
Definitely congrats... more important it wasn't a magic competition! :spinningcoin:
Message: Posted by: Doug Peters (Mar 1, 2005 06:59AM)
Congratulations to Junior! Doing justice to the Cups and Balls at the age of eight is no small feat.

(and incidental thanks to Bill Palmer for joining the "originality in spelling" club ;) )
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Mar 1, 2005 10:49AM)
"It is a *** poor mind indeed which can't think of at least
two ways to spell any word." - Andrew Jackson, 1833
Message: Posted by: slangers (Mar 2, 2005 07:57AM)
Congratulations :D
Message: Posted by: ithomson (Mar 2, 2005 08:13AM)
Re:

>> ... may grow up to be a ... MAGICIAN!!!!

Aren't "growing up" and "being a magician" mutually exclusive?

I worked for two years with junior magicians as chairman of The Magic Circle's "Young Magicians' Club". I was constantly amazed by both their enthusiasm, and their ability.

Joe, I would suggest that you're in for a very exciting ride. Congratulations.

Ian
Message: Posted by: BerkleyJL (Mar 2, 2005 09:03AM)
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On 2005-03-02 09:13, ithomson wrote:

Aren't "growing up" and "being a magician" mutually exclusive?
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This is [b]SO[/b] true! It's amazing fun learning and performing with him. What's not fun is practicing. I have very structured practice time with definite goals each day. This is boring to an 8-year-old.

Another thing that's strange (and frustrating) is when I notice a flaw in his peformance, he is likely to resist my suggestions...but if I get a friend from my club to mention it to him, he'll make the change enthusiastically!

I guess that would be the same for anything between father and son...not just magic.
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Mar 2, 2005 11:29AM)
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I guess that would be the same for anything between father and son...not just magic.
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You think it's bad now, wait until he wants to learn to drive! Save yourself a lot of grief and send him to driving school.
Message: Posted by: BerkleyJL (Mar 2, 2005 11:46AM)
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On 2005-03-02 12:29, Dave VanVranken wrote:
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I guess that would be the same for anything between father and son...not just magic.
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You think it's bad now, wait until he wants to learn to drive! Save yourself a lot of grief and send him to driving school.
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Sounds like the voice of experience! :)

I just hope our relationship stays as close as it is when he gets older.