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Topic: Stop time (watch)
Message: Posted by: Attitude (Sep 25, 2002 10:29PM)
I am trying to find some way to stop time (with someone's watch).
Message: Posted by: Priest (Sep 25, 2002 11:30PM)
Great effect if you can pull it off. But be careful, some people may not want to have their watch ruined, or a new battery bought, or however it is done. So work on a way to start the time back up too. :goof:

~Priest~
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Sep 26, 2002 01:56AM)
I use the traditional PK gimmick along with an apparent headache and nose bleed afterwards. This caused one person to lock themselves in a room until I left. It also won me a spot on the tv show A Current Affair

P.
Message: Posted by: CENDRE (Sep 26, 2002 02:52AM)
As Peter Loughran said, PK gimmick will perfectly do the stop effect.

And if you want to follow, after you have proved you can stop the watch in specs hand, you can prove you are able to move the hands of the watch backward from an amount of time given by a spec and in this specs hand:

Take a look at PK Time from Banachek.

Then you have a double killer!

See you soon,
Message: Posted by: Andy Leviss (Sep 26, 2002 03:00AM)
The standard "PK Gaff" can very possibly screw up a watch to the tune of up to $300 or so of repair costs if you happen to end up using the wrong kind of watch. I wouldn't want to risk it, but maybe your liability insurance is better than mine.

--A
Message: Posted by: christopher carter (Sep 26, 2002 08:53AM)
Shoot, Andy, my deductible is more than that.
But you make a very good point. I have wrecked a watch using the old fashioned stem-popping approach. PK in this context kind of gives me the willies.

--Christopher Carter
Message: Posted by: Darmoe (Sep 26, 2002 09:54AM)
O.k. I use the Bavli "Stop Time" device and have NEVER ruined a watch in the five years or so I've used it. I also do the PK Time follow-up and have done so for a very long time... so long that I believe I was one of the first to do so... so much for staying
"original" with things... (Hopefully folks haven't adopted my little twists to this bit as well) :shrug:

Via the Bavli/PK Device mode there are some other things you can do that can be fun, should the opportunity present itself... the old LED Watch Displays (digital) will run forward in time really fast when this technology is applied... it's very funny and can add to the fun of a watch & time routine.

The biggest warning in using this system is,
Do not keep it engaged for more than 20-30 seconds at a time and NEVER repeat it with the same watch more than twice. If you follow these guidlines I doubt you'll ever have any major problems.

In regards to "ruining" a watch via this method... all that needs to be done in 90% of the cases, is what is known as deglauzing... take the watch to a Jeweler or Video production/Video Game repair shop and set it on the deglausing unit for about 3 mintues... it will start working.

NOTE: Though many a magician laugh and want to say "there's no such thing" there is a condition in some people that prevents them from wearing a watch simply because they create a condition that freezes up the workings. This is known in the Jewelry industry and has been dealt with for years via deglauzing as well as special insultator bands, etc... in the watches.

Some individuals have such a pronounced condition of this sort, that they cannot work around electronic components at all... I can't say more without tipping things. :rolleyes:

Anyhow, have fun!
Message: Posted by: Philemon Vanderbeck (Sep 26, 2002 11:13AM)
Actually, it's known as 'degaussing'.

:evilgrin:
Message: Posted by: Darmoe (Sep 26, 2002 01:18PM)
:blush: O.k. I've a write and creative mind... never said I could spell... but neither could most of the "Masters" of literature :lol:
Message: Posted by: Dr Mage (Sep 26, 2002 01:37PM)
My wife has that problem. She cannot get a watch to work for very long at all. Her credit cards are constantly needing to be
"degaussed". She also has quite a history with all of our electrical appliances (computers, stereo equipment, etc...)

I call her Magneto. :giggles:
Message: Posted by: Andy Leviss (Sep 26, 2002 06:18PM)
Craig, I was under the impression that it was no big deal (although I still wouldn't want to have to) to degauss a watch, but I've been told by one of our members who is also a watch collector that certain watches can be VERY expensive, as in the $300 I quoted, to properly repair.

Sure, you've gone five years without it, but that doesn't mean that the next one won't do you in.
Message: Posted by: Mikael Eriksson (Sep 26, 2002 07:03PM)
Darmoe, you wrote:

"the old LED Watch"

Now what is that? I have never heard of that.

Mikael
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Sep 26, 2002 07:07PM)
I simply won't do the experiment with an expensive watch, never have. Like Darmoe, I have been doing this effect for the past 15 years without a single problem. But then again I like taking risks and living dangerously.

:)

P.
Message: Posted by: asmayly (Sep 26, 2002 08:54PM)
Darmoe,
I looked for the Bavli "Stop Time" device and couldn't find anything about it anywhere. Can you give us more information?

Thanks,
Asmayly
Message: Posted by: Drewmcadam (Sep 27, 2002 05:29AM)
<<there is a condition in some people that prevents them from wearing a watch simply because they create a condition that freezes up the workings.>>

My mother has this "condition" and I use it as a pseudo-explanation. As for the old LED stunt, I have never been able to get that to work! Am I doing something wrong?

Drew
Message: Posted by: AllThumbs (Sep 27, 2002 06:17AM)
Does anyone know of any case where someone would go as far as having a 'gimmick' surgically implanted in order to be able to produce certain PK effects?
Message: Posted by: Darmoe (Sep 27, 2002 08:29AM)
Don't know that it's actually been done as of yet... I do know of a few that have discussed the idea though. :rolleyes: (Andy, don't say a word!) With today's trends for Body Modification and Implants, who knows what's out there? ;)
Message: Posted by: Andy Leviss (Sep 27, 2002 02:55PM)
There's such a thing as going too far into the "risky" category for little to no realistic benefit over safer methods; I think implanting stuff like that falls into the "incredibly bad idea" side of things like that.
Message: Posted by: Darmoe (Sep 27, 2002 04:19PM)
AT least you didn't hint at the fact that I was getting the DNA stuff done for the cloven hoofed feet, pointed ears and horn spikes... :angry:
Message: Posted by: Mya Angel (Sep 28, 2002 08:23PM)
:hrmph: Gee Darmoe, I thought that was just your natural look? :confused:

:lol:

Mya
:cuteangel:
Message: Posted by: Codex Reader (Sep 29, 2002 01:53PM)
Interesting, I would like to see a rare earth tongue ring and a bending spoon routine, combined together. :righton:
Message: Posted by: Darmoe (Sep 30, 2002 09:03AM)
[quote]
On 2002-09-29 14:53, Codex Reader wrote:
Interesting, I would like to see a rare earth tongue ring and a bending spoon routine, combined together. :righton:
[/quote]

A most impressive Bar Trick that would certainly get you lots of dates!

:blush: Hopefully they don't have "special jewelry" that's magnetic though... that could prove a problem... like licking frozen flag poles... :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: AllThumbs (Sep 30, 2002 04:34PM)
Yes, I could imagine the hazards of a magnetic 'Prince Albert'

Regards

Kris Sheglova :eek:
Message: Posted by: Darmoe (Sep 30, 2002 06:41PM)
:blush: Does it show that I used to work form Jim Ward (Gauntlet) and help put out the Piercing Fans Quarterly? :bg:

I know... I'm a sick man... but I have fun!
Message: Posted by: Darmoe (Nov 12, 2002 06:14PM)
Actually you are 100% correct!

A few years ago I did a radio interview during which I did the watch thing... I made it a big issue that I'd never attempted to "do this before" but invited listeners to place their watches, etc. by the radio to see if I could get their's to stop as well... at fate would have it a gent called in with the threat of a law suit because "I ruined his brand new Rolex..."

Needless to say, his claim didn't sit well but I have used that point and the few bits and pieces of "Press" that was available, as a PR advantage... to paraphrase a noted business philosophy "there is no such thing as bad press..."

Then again, I believe it was Stephan Minch that pointed out that as a "Mentalist" we are obliged to use any level of low, any element of circumstance, to our advantage. :bg:
Message: Posted by: PK (Nov 13, 2002 07:31AM)
KArl Fulves mentions the advancing a digital watch trick, but I too have never got this to work?

Has anybody or is this a myth?

Kevin
Message: Posted by: vratkins (Nov 13, 2002 11:45AM)
"The Time Pool" (advancing time on a digital watch) was in self-working mental magic. I tried everything to make it work, to no avail. I finally wrote to Mr. Fulves,(pre-email!) he wrote a nice note back to the effect that watch designs had changed since the publication, and it doesn't work anymore. Some earlier digital watches were set with a magnet; I suspect that was why it worked then, but not now.
Regards,
Victor Atkins
Message: Posted by: shrink (Nov 13, 2002 02:58PM)
I worked out a routine a few years back and did it for a while in bars.

The watch would be placed face down on the spectators hand then after concentration and the watch becoming heavier or warmer it was lifted to reveal that it had stopped. Taking the watch by the ends of the strap it could be gently shaken it remained still. Could be laid on the table it was still not moving.

There was also a variation where you tapped the glass at the front till the hands stopped. The winder was in full view all the time.

After replacing the watch back face down on the spectators hand and concentrating it started back up. The performers hands and watch could be examined afterwards. No magnet rings on fingers it could be done with no sleeves !

I did start to write a booklet. But never took it any further. I would imagine that someone has created it before?

I don't think I broke a watch never saw many of them again? I remember first time I was doing it in a bar to my friends watch. This girl was watching and took of her boyfriends watch an handed it to me in a kind of challenge.

I had just worked out how to do it was a bit nervous as there is sleight involved. Was difficult to keep a straight face when she said "I hate magicians but your not a magician are you?".
Message: Posted by: Darmoe (Nov 13, 2002 04:54PM)
I saw Banachek do something during the 72-hour gathering that was very cool... he sped up the second hands on a barrowed watch...

It's very cool!

Who knows, maybe some day I'll be a cool as Steve and such discoveries will grace my life as well... :lol:
Message: Posted by: hackmonkey (Dec 15, 2002 09:41PM)
I have also seen someone make the second hand go faround faster. There is the 'futour' gimmick out there but I found this too bug and not string enough eg it had to touch the watch. Does anyone else know of any simliar gimmicks.
Message: Posted by: Caleb Strange (Dec 16, 2002 01:00PM)
Couple of nice effects in Will Dexter's 'Uncanny power'. Clocks stopped by looking at them, watches change time in spectators' hands.

Regards,

Caleb Strange.