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Topic: Silk companies
Message: Posted by: massimo (Mar 26, 2005 04:43PM)
Are any silk companies still making magic designed silk here in good ole USA? What ever happened to Mystique Magic?
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Mar 26, 2005 08:01PM)
Abbott's still tye dyes their own. Rice has always gotten their beautiful silks from Japan. Hughes dyes his own. P&A does their own, it is in question if they are still in business.
Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Mar 28, 2005 05:57PM)
P & A is alive and well --- thank goodness. In another post, Jason Purdy shared Peter White's contact information: his phone is (518) 537-8749. Jason also stated that Peter will be at Hank Lee’s Conclave in April 2005. I have spoken with him a couple of times and I received my order of a few silks and silk magic videotapes today. I am very happy with the quality. I also just placed a small order with Silk King Studios and will be ordering several other silks from them as well. Ruth Rice Crone is also a very pleasant and helpful person to deal with.

Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Apr 22, 2005 11:43AM)
On 2005-03-26 17:43, massimo wrote:
Are any silk companies still making magic designed silk here in good ole USA? What ever happened to Mystique Magic?

Unfortunately, Americans are quickly losing their capacity to deal with textiles in any way.

Always remember to run for cover when someone tells you, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."

Thanks to the government, our capacity to produce natural fibers is a going-away thing. Instead the government, with your money, encouraged "not raising" fiber crops (cotton, wool, etc.). That killed off some employment immediately. Then with no fiber to process, that also killed off cotton gins, etc. Yet with no fiber produced, resources to make textiles were not used either. (That also killed off some employment in the USA.) And, it follows that with no textiles produced, garment-manufacturing goes where there is a supply fabric produced. (That also killed off some employment in the USA.)

The technology in these fields has continued to advance. However, with no opportunities to market that technology in the USA, those advancing the technology moved to where it could be employed. (That also killed off some employment in the USA.)

The sad part is that the USA not only lost the capacity to produce, it lost the people with the capacity to produce in a modern and advancing world. Silk (or even wool and cotton) dying in the USA would be extremely low tech. What little still exists is literally cottage industry and very 1940s. Meanwhile, the advancing parts of the world can produce printed silks that can take modern dry cleaning, detergents, antistatic treatments, etc. Today's dyes are almost science fiction in the USA. The government "helped us" right out of the textile/garment industry.

When you get a chance to shake the hand of Peter White (P&A), et al, do it. It will save you thousands of dollars in plane tickets. Time waits for no man. (Magicians may be somewhere lower on the list!)

Perhaps the real lesson learned here is to reset your magic silk clocks by twelve hours. Things are happening while we sleep.

Still, nothing is more shocking to an audience than seeing the production of a large bright silk with a message relating to the routine. I sometimes wonder if the day will come when American magicians cannot afford to do silk magic.

Somehow “Happy Birthday!” on the side of a plastic trash bag cheapens the act!

Thank you for your question Massimo.

Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Apr 22, 2005 04:02PM)
Please allow me to shamelessly plug Silk King Studios:


Ruth rules!


Message: Posted by: Jimmy Joza (Apr 23, 2005 08:24AM)
Dougini, I couldn't agree with you more about Silk King Studios. Ruth Rice Crone is a wonderful lady! And she is keeping the Rice spirit and tradition alive and well. I know her parents are looking down with a smile of pride.

Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Apr 24, 2005 01:06AM)
Tim Sonefelt is entering into the silk scene, with his company, [url=http://www.wonderimagery.com/]Wonder Imagery[/url]. Check out the website.

If I recall correctly, Richard Hughes has seen some of the products, or talked with Tim, or something like that.

- Donald

P.S. I haven't ordered any products yet. I just know Tim from my travels around the internet.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Apr 24, 2005 08:57AM)
Tim's work is very good and we are collaborating on a couple of things. It is made on 8 momme silk so there may be a bulk problem in some cases.

Tim is putting his own hem on his stuff while I will continue to put my double turned hems on my stuff. I forget exactly what type of hem Tim is putting on put it was not my normal hem so I opted to hem my own silks.

Tim is good guy and I am sure that we will answer any questions you might have. The cost is reasonable considering the work.

However if things need to compress more, handpainting is the only option available for custom 6mm silks. The detail will not be as great but think of it as a road sign. It must be recognizable at 15- 20 mph. Intricate details make no difference in a stage performance.

I hope to have an updated Genie silk set out shortly and a couple of other projects.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Apr 24, 2005 10:43PM)
Richard's silks are really nice (Thanks again, Richard).

Here is a photo of us using one of his 6 foot tie dye silks in a show.


- Donald

P.S. Although I attached an image link, the photo doesn't seem to be displaying. (It's worked from the same image account before, with a photo on a different thread.) So, you can also see the photo by clicking this link: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/DonaldD/sixfootsilk.bmp