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Topic: Between cc and royal road..
Message: Posted by: jack_is_dead (Apr 8, 2005 12:03AM)
Just a question..i had some practice with card from the mark wisons complete course and I want to move on..which should I buy?the royal road or the card college?is everything in royal road is included in card college..i can see the card college is much more expensive.
Message: Posted by: irishguy (Apr 8, 2005 12:12AM)
Card College goes far more in depth about techniques. There are routines after each chapter of sleights, but the real purpose is to learn technique.

Royal Road will not teach as many sleights, although it probably has more routines than any given single volume of Card College.

Royal Road, in my opinion, is something that you will work through and move past. Card College will remain a series that you will refer back to often.

I guess I would say, Card College is a better purchase. Start off with one or two volumes and see what you think. There is no need to jump right in and purchase all five. You can see the contents here: http://magicref.tripod.com/books.htm
Message: Posted by: ClouDsss (Apr 8, 2005 01:14AM)
Both are very good books with lots of stuff to learn from.

But if I wanna have a series that can keep me busy for a longer time, I will opt for card college instead as it has more in depth stuff and the photographs inside makes it easier to learn from. RRTCM are mainly pictorial illustrations.

cheerios
Message: Posted by: Mad Mat (Apr 8, 2005 12:55PM)
From looking through the table of contents, ill probably buy a royal road. It seems to teach everything just not in as much detail. I don't really want to learn to many to start off with anyway, just enough to amaze my friends.
Message: Posted by: theAmazinbryan (Apr 9, 2005 09:27AM)
I have just purchased both an I timed myself with each book .Within an hour CC I was learning new sleights an improving the ones I thought I knew !!RRTCM for me was more combersome to learn from and I feel has less helpful pictures along the way.I will say for $13 buck not a bad investment for the RRTCM but for me I love CC!!
hope it helps!!
Bryan
Message: Posted by: zur (Apr 9, 2005 11:40AM)
Royal Road is filled with less pictures while Card College is written in more modern day style English.
Message: Posted by: larrylegal (Apr 9, 2005 05:43PM)
I agree with Zur. Card College is more understandable. I have been told by some to go with Royal Road, because that is what many of the great card magicians learned from years ago and it is a classic. In my opinion, had Card College been in existence 40 years ago, they would have chosen Card College to learn card technique.
Message: Posted by: rmoraleta (Apr 10, 2005 02:43PM)
Zur - that's true, Card College is much easier to understand because of the new day English and illustrations.
Message: Posted by: Mad Mat (Apr 10, 2005 02:47PM)
I don't think I can afford card college just yet

maybe when I get better, ill buy rrtcm till then
Message: Posted by: chrisch (Apr 11, 2005 09:37AM)
What are in 3 and 4? Cuz I've got 1 and 2 and I'm wondering whther I should get "stronger magic" or the rest of the series.
Message: Posted by: DomKabala (Apr 11, 2005 10:49AM)
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On 2005-04-11 10:37, chrisch wrote:
What are in 3 and 4? Cuz I've got 1 and 2 and I'm wondering whther I should get "stronger magic" or the rest of the series.
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Go to: http://magicref.tripod.com/books.htm Get all 5 books they are worth it!! :bikes:
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Message: Posted by: ToPher (Apr 11, 2005 11:00AM)
You should read bolth, in fact you should read just about every book you can get your hands on.(imo)

"T"
Message: Posted by: calexa (Apr 11, 2005 01:11PM)
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On 2005-04-08 01:12, irishguy wrote:
Card College goes far more in depth about techniques. There are routines after each chapter of sleights, but the real purpose is to learn technique.

Royal Road will not teach as many sleights, although it probably has more routines than any given single volume of Card College.

Royal Road, in my opinion, is something that you will work through and move past. Card College will remain a series that you will refer back to often.

I guess I would say, Card College is a better purchase. Start off with one or two volumes and see what you think. There is no need to jump right in and purchase all five. You can see the contents here: http://magicref.tripod.com/books.htm
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There is nothing more to say.

Magixx
Message: Posted by: gerard1973 (Jun 2, 2005 09:32AM)
Jack_is_dead:

Both Card Magic books are classics. Here’s what I would suggest you do. First purchase the Royal Road to Card Magic (RRTCM) by Hugard & Braue. This is one of the best books and the most important card technique book to have when starting off in Card Magic. This book is inexpensive and will teach you all the basic techniques that you will need to perform Card Magic.

After reading the Royal Road to Card Magic (RRTCM) and mastering the basic card techniques in this book I would then buy the Card College Volumes. Again other Magic Café members have recommended this series to you. Card College by Robert Giobbi comes in 5 Volumes. There is a rumor about a 6th volume coming out but I don’t know if this is true or not.

I would not purchase them all at once because they are somewhat expensive but I would buy them one at a time starting with Card College Volume 1. Read through volume 1, purchase volume 2, read through volume 2, then purchase volume 3 and finally read through that book.

In my opinion, I would just purchase the first three volumes of Card College because the first three volumes are the most important books of the collection and contain the majority of the information that you will need.

Some people have expressed disappointment in Card College volumes 4 & 5 and thought that these volumes contained too much “filler” material and were not as important as the first three volumes. Some people purchased them anyway just to complete their Card College set. The choice is up to you. I personally will stay with the first three volumes.

The Royal Road to Card Magic (RRTCM) and Card College Volumes 1-3 by Robert Giobbi will keep you busy studying for a lifetime. Learn a few good card tricks and you will be on your way.

Good luck with your magic and I hope that I have helped you in some way with the knowledge and expertise that I have shared with you.

Gerard
Message: Posted by: bigdw1 (Jun 4, 2005 12:47AM)
I just got RRTCM and I'm enjoying very much. Several tricks in their are very strong (in my opinion). Don't have CC though.
Message: Posted by: spycrapper (Jun 4, 2005 11:09AM)
Thank you for the site of book's contents. I have the same question about RRTCM and Card College, and after viewing some thread about both book I decided to buy Card College, but only vol 1 and 2. Is it worth to buy only 2 first volume without the 3rd? it's so expensive that I can't afford to buy it all...
Message: Posted by: calexa (Jun 4, 2005 01:16PM)
Don´t worry. You can start with one book first, then buy the second, then the third.....

To be honest, for the beginning I always recommend only to buy the first three books (and I must admit most people disagree with me and then state that everybody should own all five books). Don´t forget that every book has about 250 pages. You must not only read them, but also understand them, and this will take months, maybe years. If you buy the first three volumes you will own the material to lay a very good foundation in card magic. THen, when you have mastered the techniques, you can buy the other 2 books.

Have fun,
Magixx
Message: Posted by: smartie_28 (Jun 22, 2005 07:28PM)
I've been thinking of getting CC as well, thanks for the tips.
Message: Posted by: The Magician (Jun 23, 2005 10:52AM)
The Card College series
Message: Posted by: denzildon (Jun 25, 2005 02:31AM)
I looked at penguinmagic and its from 27.00 to 36.00 each. Is there any where else we can get for less? I'm thinking of just saving up for the whole set which will cost me 150.00 including shipping.

What do you think?
Message: Posted by: pedrothegreat (Jun 25, 2005 05:48AM)
Also been looking for a good set of card magic books. From this thread I reckon I will opt for the card college set. Prob have to buy the first 2 or 3 books to begin with as I don't reckon I can afford the whole set at the mo.
Message: Posted by: Owen Thomas (Jun 26, 2005 10:42AM)
CC is more helpfull than RRTCM.
Message: Posted by: Yfirum (Jun 26, 2005 10:51AM)
I agree with you that CC is a wonderful book (series).
I'd strongly recommend to you to buy both volumes (1&2) at one time because in fact it is one book split up in two volumes. You won't be satisfied with only one half of a book...