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Topic: Advice welcome
Message: Posted by: Sariel (Oct 9, 2002 04:42PM)
I'm a beginner to magic, in fact I don't know where and how to start.
I have very specific goals: I don't really like card magic, but i'd like to learn some coin magic, at least some sleights that I can use with many everyday objects like rings and stuff like that. I love cold reading and some mentalism magic. But most of all I like impromptu magic, magic that I can do anytime anywhere without the restrictions of wearing long sleave shirt, gimicked wallet, etc.
What books/tricks/videos can you guys recommend me?
Message: Posted by: Callin (Oct 9, 2002 05:00PM)
For coin magic check out Michael Ammar's Introduction to Coin Magic DVD. This is an inexpensive DVD that will give you a good start in sleight of hand with coins. Also, you may like Michael's Easy to Master Money Miracles video series. There is some great magic on those tapes. And of course, there is the classic of coin magic - Bobo's Modern Coin Magic book. I carry all of these at my store, so PM or email me and I'll be glad to answer any questions you may have.

Richard Green
Message: Posted by: woodmaven (Oct 9, 2002 05:32PM)
I would recommend Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic for starters. This will give you a broad spectrum of magic to choose from and find what types you like.

For what you seem to want, you could also try the book Magic for Dummies. It may seem to be a trivial book, but there is actually quite a collection of good, impromptu effects in there.

- Britt

Message: Posted by: Paul Menzel (Oct 9, 2002 06:55PM)
Mark Wilson's "Complete Course in Magic" is a great starting point. Also, Larry Anderson's "Jawdroppers" video series can be a good resource when starting out ( http://www.jawdroppers.com ). Larry was involved in the production of Mark Wilson's book and provides clear instructions without a lot of technical jargon or difficult sleights. There are plenty of other books and videos you may want after these, but these will ease you into magic while providing a pretty good foundation.
Message: Posted by: Geoff Weber (Oct 9, 2002 09:23PM)
I think Now you see it, Now you don't.. by Bill Tarr would be right up your alley.
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Oct 9, 2002 10:53PM)
Absolutely any of the books, etc., mentioned above would be an ideal jumping-in place for the beginning magician.
And, may I add my offering: Harry Lorayne's The Magic Book. Originally written for the lay reader, it provides a solid grounding in the basics, as well as some middling advanced work, but nothing so hard that even I couldn't do it!
My choice: Wilson, Bobo, Lorayne, in that order.
Message: Posted by: Northst8r (Oct 10, 2002 06:43AM)
As a beginner, the worst thing you can do is read too many books. I say that because you don't learn magic in the living room. Pick a book, tape, etc. that interests you, learn one effect and show it to everyone who will watch. Then learn another one and try it out. You will find that you will come to like what your audience likes and that what you dislike in print may become your favorite effect.
Message: Posted by: Sariel (Oct 10, 2002 01:00PM)
Thanks for all the advices.
Now...I searched on amazon.co.uk for the books and a question arise:
Is there a difference between Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic and Mark Wilson's Cyclopedia of Magic?

and another one: what are the best online magic shops in europe? Because I live in Portugal and ordering from the US might take some long time
Message: Posted by: trevorsmagic (Oct 10, 2002 03:57PM)
Hi In answer to your question re the Mark Wilson books i dont think there is too much as i have them both.The cyclopedia is the pocket size book with less effects than the complete course,i would recommend the complete course as the book is bigger and easier to read and has more effects but use whichever of the two you can get hold of..you will not regret it.
best Trevor
Message: Posted by: Callin (Oct 10, 2002 10:44PM)
Actually, there is only one small difference between the two Mark Wilson books (It took me quite a while to figure it out). The small book is lacking the chapter on multiplying balls. Other than that, I think the books are identical.

Oh, there is one other important difference. The bigger book will stay open when you lay it on a table. This is very important when you are learning an effect and need the use of your hands! :)

Richard Green
Message: Posted by: Paul (Oct 12, 2002 08:43AM)
"and another one: what are the best online magic shops in europe? Because I live in Portugal and ordering from the US might take some long time"

If things are shipped by air it probably will not make much difference time wise whether ordered in the USA or Europe.Maybe a couple of days, sometimes less. I wouldn't worry about it. Surface is a different matter.

Message: Posted by: Tolga Ozuygur (Oct 13, 2002 10:31AM)
I can recommend "Willane's Complete methods of miracles" from Davenport's in London. My Mentor Tora showed it to me and he prepares his manipulation lessons mainly from there. It is exactly what you have wanted. Many everyday objects and detailed sleights etc.
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Message: Posted by: ActuariaLug (Oct 14, 2002 12:00AM)
If you're interested in coins, I rather like David Roth's Expert Coin Magic video, Vol. 1 "Basic Coin Magic." I think Roth makes it really easy to watch and learn the basic coin sleights.

Nothing on the video requires gimmicked coins. And I think you mentioned a desire to be able to do things on the fly.
Message: Posted by: stevehw (Oct 14, 2002 02:27AM)
Since you mentioned you are inclined towards impromptu magic, I thought it would be worth mentioning Gregory Wilson's "On the Spot" video. If you do a Café search you will see some good comments on this one. I recently purchaced it and am very pleased with it.
Message: Posted by: Sariel (Oct 14, 2002 03:50PM)
thank you all for your advices.
the reason I prefer impromptu magic is because I don't wish to follow a magician carrer (at least for now), it's just for entertaining some friends, anytime anywhere they ask me to do some magic. I can't hang around with all the magic stuff with me all the time :hrmph: