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Topic: Pre Show Work
Message: Posted by: SteeleFusion (Jun 10, 2005 06:04AM)
I am fairly new to mentalism and have often heard talk of "pre show" work. What exactly is this, and how does it help with the rest of the performance.

I know some magicians appear to be against this type of work, why is this?

Craig
Message: Posted by: sjdavison (Jun 10, 2005 06:24AM)
Craig,

Pre show can be many things, and is exactly as it sounds. Marc Paul has good thoughts on this, and Richard Osterlind also in Practical mental mysteries (a great book).

I hope this helps, PM me if you have any further questions.

SImon
Message: Posted by: SteeleFusion (Jun 10, 2005 06:30AM)
So what type of wording is used during the show.
Message: Posted by: shrink (Jun 10, 2005 06:36AM)
Go buy 13 steps by corinda as it is where most people start. Discussing in this thread will approach exposure very quickly which is one of the arguments why a lot of performers have left the Café..
Message: Posted by: SteeleFusion (Jun 10, 2005 06:41AM)
I have, and have read, Corinda's the 13 steps. I just wanted to see how the PS work could be used in todays enviroment (as apposed to the music halls as discussed in Tony's book)

Craig
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (Jun 10, 2005 07:02AM)
Craig, read everything you can on Corinda, Maven, Waters, Osterlind, Banachek, Riggs, etc, and you'll find many things on preshow work.
In the meantime, as Shrink suggested, this is something that would be better covered in the secret sessions or via PMs.
Until then keep reading everything you can and you'll find the answers.

Greg
Message: Posted by: SteeleFusion (Jun 10, 2005 07:03AM)
Thank you all for your advice.
Message: Posted by: bobser (Jun 10, 2005 06:02PM)
THat's ok. We're here to help. That's what they pay us for.

Bobser
ps: always smile when they put their hand in your topit. It pays you know.
Message: Posted by: Drewmcadam (Jun 14, 2005 06:13PM)
Hey there Bobser,

Just popped in to say “hello”. Hello!

I tried looking on your profile for your website, but can’t find any reference to it. I’m just interested because I see your signature says “pro magician/mentalist hynotist (sic) based in scotland.” I just wondered if I know you? (You’re not Max, Don or Andy, are you? As members of the Edinburgh Meeting of the Minds group, that WOULD be embarrassing!)

I’m familiar – though not in the biblical sense - with Colin McLeod, Shrink, Messrs Heron, along with numerous other pro's who are not on The Magic Café, but I don’t think I’ve seen one of your shows, or even met. Have we? Just curious. Keen to meet up if you’re based anywhere near the Central Belt.

Best wishes,

Drew McAdam

Just realised, I probably should have PM'd that... hang on... it's PM'd!

Drew
Message: Posted by: Sven Rygh (Jun 15, 2005 12:09PM)
As to pre show work and patter, Banachek has some amazing and very valuable thought in his 2005 lecture notes.

Sven
Message: Posted by: squando (Jun 24, 2005 03:44PM)
I recommend the Osterlind book too.
Message: Posted by: Jay Are (Jun 25, 2005 08:13AM)
Quick question, maybe not the place for this -- but if you had to have one of the 3 following books on an island, which would you choose?

Mind Myth and Magick

Theater of the Mind

Corinda's 13 steps

???

Just Curious.
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (Jun 25, 2005 10:18AM)
13 Steps.
MM & M
Theater of The Mind

In that order.

Greg
P. S. If I could only choose one... 13 Steps... whole careers wait inside.