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Topic: Slydini Encores CD-Rom
Message: Posted by: Eva (Jun 11, 2005 03:15PM)
Hello,

I was wondering if anyone knows the contents of Slydini's "Encores" CD-Rom. I am sure, since it is by Slydini, it will be wonderful, but a list of contents would be very helpful.


Thank you

Eva
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jun 12, 2005 04:38PM)
EFFECTS INCLUDED:
Imp-Pass,
Revolve-Vanish,
One Coin Routine,
Prediction in Red,
Capricious Cornucopia,
Ball Vanish in the Hands,
Purse of Aladdin,
Long and Short of It,
Wrong Way Coins,
Sweet Salt,
Interlude with a Paper Napkin,
Cigarette Re-Incarnation,
Two Cigarettes from One,
Unpredictable Coins,
Postscriptum,
& Thumb-Tipping.
Message: Posted by: adamjames (Jun 12, 2005 05:14PM)
I was checking the Café for a review of Encores but can't find one.

Is it recommended reading?


Adam
Message: Posted by: Eva (Jun 12, 2005 05:16PM)
Thank you, Xiqual.

I am thinking the Imp Pass may be something I have seen on a Gary Oulette DVD, but not sure.

I have also done a search but can find no reviews of "Encores" on the Café.

Thank you for you time.

Eva
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jun 12, 2005 10:24PM)
Slydini's Encore book was the 1st book published by Harry Stanley's Unique Magic Studio back in the 1960's. It is all Slydini material and if you can convert the Slydini style to your performing style, then the material is well worth reading. Slydini was a master artist and his work is always worth studing.

His second book was The Magic of Slydini also published in England. Tannen Magic published a 2 Volume set that recaped many of the original material with more photos and discriptions. One volume was all photos and the other the text.

The Encore CD-Rom is an inexpensive way to read and study his material. It is all sit down material, therefore not much good in the 'real world' of performing magic. He was the lapping expert.
Message: Posted by: Okami (Jun 13, 2005 05:10AM)
Wasn´t The Magic of Slydini by Lewis Ganson published first? In this book there is no Imp Pass and no Revolve Vanish. So the Routines were not the original ones which were performed by Slydini. As far as I know this was the main reason to publish another book, which was Slydini Encores.

I think this is a beautiful book worth reading for every magician.
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Jun 13, 2005 04:26PM)
This book is the follow-up to the Ganson book, hence the title "Encores". It is required reading for anyone wanting to understand close up, or standup magic. Contrary to popular belief, Slydini's work was not all designed for seated work at the close up table. The material in this book reflects this. Capricious Cornucopia, Ball Vanish in the Hands, Long and Short of It and Thumb-Tipping are all done standing and mainly on stage.

The advice he gives on managing a thumbtip has become standard.

For seated close up work, the imp pass and the revolve vanish are legendary, and the "One Coin Routine" has inspired many variations. All the coin work in this book is worth careful study.

There is one caveat: all the material is based on gestures and timing that was natural for Slydini. You'll have to adapt his techniques to your own mannerisms and style, and it will probably be quite a longer stretch for a woman.
Message: Posted by: Eva (Jun 13, 2005 05:13PM)
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On 2005-06-13 17:26, Curtis Kam wrote:
You'll have to adapt his techniques to your own mannerisms and style, and it will probably be quite a longer stretch for a woman.

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Thank you, Curtis. I am planning on adapting the work to my own style, of course. I have ordered a copy of "Encores" and am looking forward very much to reading it.

Eva
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Jun 13, 2005 06:48PM)
Bravi, Eva.

You might also want to note that Tony Slydini was not very tall. When sitting at a normal table, the edge of the table would almost hit him in the chest. This makes a big difference in what rest positions are natural.

While you're waiting for the book to arrive, you might want to play with the position for the Imp pass, and see if it's workable for you. The position is: Torso facing about 45 degrees to the left, perfomer has his/her right arm resting on the table, with the wrist to the elbow resting flat, and along the table's edge.

I can imagine this working, perhaps following a moment of confidentiality where you've leaned in and said something directly to a person to your right.

Good Luck with it.
Message: Posted by: Eva (Jun 15, 2005 12:35PM)
I think I may be taller than Slydini was, then! Thank you for the Imp Pass tip.

I will let you know how I get on with the Slydini material.


Eva
Message: Posted by: Eva (Jun 17, 2005 01:53PM)
I have received my "Encores" and it is very interesting reading.

I am wondering if the ball used in Capricious Cornucopia is what I have heard of as a "hank ball". If it is, I would very much like to know of any resources that are available which explain its use to vanish objects, etc.

I am working in front of the mirror and practising this beautiful ball vanish/production.

Curtis...I am working on the Imp Pass!



Eva
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Jun 17, 2005 02:22PM)
Well its a great move to work on....you know I have a bunch of Slydini video....video of him performing and also lecturing sometime in the 60's at a convention....

koz
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Jun 20, 2005 09:39PM)
Eva,

The ball Slydini used is a bit larger that what was usually considered a "Hank ball". For the basics on the use of the hank ball (which was generally a rigid ball with a large hole, and used with or without the loop) you might see "Rice's Silk Encyclopedia" or the appropriate Tarbell Course. Capricious Cornucopia is a terrific piece, and one I performed as well. I have to admit, however, that Gary Kurtz gets about the same illusion in a better context using some of the Jerry Andrus material. In the Kurtz routine, you form the cornucopia and then toss in a yellow lemon and a red tomato. You swirl the cone, and red and yellow become orange, an orange, in fact. See "Unexplainable Acts" by Kaufman.

I am interested in your progress with the imp pass. Perhaps you might post a video once you have something?
Message: Posted by: Turk (Jun 21, 2005 12:36AM)
Eva,

On Cellini's "Magic that can be Performed Anywhere", there is brief film clip of Slydini performing the "Capricious Cornucopia". And, after that, there is a long explanation of the Slydini moves by Jim Cellini. In addition to being an outstanding magician in his own right, Cellini was also a student of Slydini. This DVD is an outstanding DVD of simple magic that is devastating in impact. Highly recommended.

Tedb (Koz) has previously mentioned that he is in the process of compiling a Tribute to Slydini DVD that will have a bunch of the Slydini film clips on it. I think Tedb's latest ETA for getting it ready for sale is this Christmas season. I, for one, can't wait.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Jun 21, 2005 10:10AM)
Working on it right now....editing today!......we have a ton of stuff and still looking for more...

if anyone knows anything about what he was ....tv...where there is video of him...anything I would love to hear about it

thanks
koz
Message: Posted by: Turk (Jun 21, 2005 11:01PM)
Koz,

Sent you a PM regarding the Dick Cavett appearance in the 80s.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Eva (Jul 6, 2005 05:19PM)
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On 2005-06-21 01:36, Turk wrote:
Eva,

On Cellini's "Magic that can be Performed Anywhere", there is brief film clip of Slydini performing the "Capricious Cornucopia". And, after that, there is a long explanation of the Slydini moves by Jim Cellini. In addition to being an outstanding magician in his own right, Cellini was also a student of Slydini. This DVD is an outstanding DVD of simple magic that is devastating in impact. Highly recommended.
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Turk,

I now have the "Magic That Can be Performed Anywhere". Jim Cellini's simple style of presentation is an inspiration!

Are there any other DVDs which show Cellini performing?


Thanks

Eva
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jul 7, 2005 01:45AM)
That Kaps coin in hankie trick is a worker. Always gets the "Oooooooos" and "Ahhhhhhs"

I use it now with a kid and tell a story about Harry Potter and the wizards not having any pockets. I use this trick to show how they keep thier money.

When the coins reappear, I hand the kid the invisible coins one at a time and have them throw them at the bag. A good time is had by all.
James
Message: Posted by: adamjames (Jul 10, 2005 03:34PM)
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On 2005-07-06 18:19, Eva wrote:

Are there any other DVDs which show Cellini performing?
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Eva

On Volume 2 of Cellini's "Art of Street Performance", Cellini explains some of his street act. I don't know which effects, except thatit includes a rope routine and a cigarette routine. I assume the DVD also shows a performance.


Adam
Message: Posted by: adamjames (Jul 10, 2005 03:35PM)
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On 2005-07-06 18:19, Eva wrote:

Are there any other DVDs which show Cellini performing?
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Eva

On Volume 2 of Cellini's "Art of Street Performance", Cellini explains some of his street act. I don't know which effects, except that it includes a rope routine and a cigarette routine. I assume the DVD also shows a performance.


Adam
Message: Posted by: adamjames (Jul 10, 2005 03:35PM)
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On 2005-07-06 18:19, Eva wrote:

Are there any other DVDs which show Cellini performing?
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Eva

On Volume 2 of Cellini's "Art of Street Performance", Cellini explains some of his street act. I don't know which effects, except that it includes a rope routine and a cigarette routine. I assume the DVD also shows a performance.


Adam