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Topic: Amazing Kreskin's Jacko prediction: CORRECT
Message: Posted by: MentaThought (Jun 15, 2005 03:00PM)
A few days before the verdict was announced in the Michael Jackson trial I started to wonder how Kreskin would deal with the apparently distinct possibility that his prediction that Jackson would be vindicated would prove to be wrong.

Watching the pre-verdict tv coverage -- and the case monopolized all tv networks in the USA beginning an hour or so before the verdict was read -- it looked grim for both Jackson as well as most of the legal "experts" (e.g. Judge Andrew Napolitano of the FOX network) and there seemed to be an overwhelming consensus that the defendant would be found guilty of a few serious charges at minimum.

Alas, ultimately the Amazing Kreskin (he deserves to be referred to by his full legal name in this instance) turned out to be right on the money with his prediction regarding the case's outcome, a forthright prediction which was made months ago. See http://www.amazingkreskin.com/pred.htm
Message: Posted by: Sgroge (Jun 15, 2005 03:08PM)
Finally I am convinced!
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Jun 15, 2005 04:38PM)
Not too hard to call, really, given O.J. and Kobe. Here's another easy one--the next black celebrity defendant is going to get the book thrown at him. Watch and see.

Kudos to Kreskin.
Message: Posted by: Kevvy (Jun 15, 2005 10:56PM)
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On 2005-06-15 17:38, Curtis Kam wrote:
Not too hard to call, really, given O.J. and Kobe. Here's another easy one--the next black celebrity defendant is going to get the book thrown at him. Watch and see.

Kudos to Kreskin.
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Robert Blake's acquittal proves these verdicts aren't all about race. It is celebrity and money. Plus, the jury in the Jackson case was predominantly white.
Message: Posted by: Gede Nibo (Jun 15, 2005 11:13PM)
Not a color issue at all...$$$$$$$....
Message: Posted by: IllusionJack (Jun 15, 2005 11:18PM)
Or, possibly, it could be that it was not possible to prove him guilty as charged?

--Jack :pepsi:
Message: Posted by: Kevvy (Jun 15, 2005 11:26PM)
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On 2005-06-16 00:18, IllusionJack wrote:
Or, possibly, it could be that it was not possible to prove him guilty as charged?

--Jack :pepsi:
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That could be it. The jury had more information than we did......
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Jun 16, 2005 05:23AM)
Not a black issue, just a money issue as Baba says....Look at Robert Blake. Any wealthy celebrity will get off or get sent to House Arrest in their Palacial Estate, Martha Stewart. The justice system SUCKS in the US lately! Mike Tyson had bad lawyers, bad publicity, plus he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, overall.

The next wealthy Celeb with lots of fans will GET OFF too. The Professor of Orlando has spoken!
Message: Posted by: David March (Jun 16, 2005 05:53AM)
Kreskin is a master of taking risks that really are only 50/50, Geller also did this to great succuss.
Message: Posted by: MentaThought (Jun 16, 2005 10:20AM)
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On 2005-06-16 06:23, Slim King wrote:
Not a black issue, just a money issue as Baba says....Look at Robert Blake.
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Robert Blake -- Anglo-Saxon sounding surname notwithstanding -- is Mexican-American.
Message: Posted by: Greg Owen (Jun 16, 2005 11:27AM)
We shall see if his prediction about the Yankees comes true. It is rather specific and, while the Yankees are no doubt a very, very strong team, the bet is by no means 50/50.

- Greg Owen
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 16, 2005 11:37AM)
With Jackson, money helped get him AAA defense but the jury said it all when they didn't find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based on what they heard. They put their personal feelings aside and just went with the evidence.

The mother of the accused was the biggest problem.

I think the media had him in prison from the start.

I await his Yankees prediction.
Message: Posted by: EVILDAN (Jun 16, 2005 11:42AM)
I think has a lot to do with celebrity status. As a celebrity you "come into" people's homes and become part of their lives to an extent. So, when given the responsibility to determine a celebrity's fate, I think those tasked take the responsibility more seriously than those tasked with determining the fate of people they don't know.

Beyond a reasonable doubt weighs differently in either case.

I think it has a lot to do with what you get to know thru the media about celebrity vs. first impressions on the average Joe.

Just my thoughts.
EVILDAN.
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Jun 16, 2005 12:02PM)
The first vote was a six six split I think. Just because the kid has a bad mother doesn't mean it didn't happen. If you were to pick a victim he'd be perfect. No one would believe him or his mother. Jury selection didn't matter....Victim selection did.
Kreskin is a genius.
Message: Posted by: Tom Jorgenson (Jun 16, 2005 12:59PM)
As has been mentioned, the jury did not find him innocent, they found him not guilty. One is a truth, the other a legality.
Message: Posted by: Kevvy (Jun 16, 2005 04:43PM)
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On 2005-06-16 06:23, Slim King wrote:
Not a black issue, just a money issue as Baba says....Look at Robert Blake. Any wealthy celebrity will get off or get sent to House Arrest in their Palacial Estate, Martha Stewart.
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I agree Slim. You echoed my thoughts. I forgot about Martha Stewart.

Some believe that there was more to the story behind the accidental drowning of William Shatner's wife too.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 16, 2005 09:39PM)
[quote]Some believe that there was more to the story behind the accidental drowning of William Shatner's wife too.
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Now that is interesting. Funny how her cause of death was solved so quickly.
An intoxicated person wouldn't struggle as much (no marks) and would also drown faster (especially a nonswimmer, a small push).
Message: Posted by: Kevvy (Jun 16, 2005 11:38PM)
....Don't know why I stated "accidental" drowning.

I'm sure she didn't deliberatley drown.
Message: Posted by: FLIM-FLAM (Jun 17, 2005 12:33AM)
The Amazing Kreskin is brilliant!! The verdict was an easy prediction though.
Message: Posted by: Smoking Camel (Jun 20, 2005 06:10PM)
What type of prediction was this? Was it an open prediction or a sealed in a box with an editor....?
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jun 21, 2005 04:03PM)
This one was open.
Message: Posted by: jiggyjer (Jun 21, 2005 06:16PM)
Am I the only one here that thinks predicting the outcome of a child molestation case for entertainment puposes is in bad taste. C'mon guy's, sometimes things just have nothing to do with magic, and sometimes things should be left alone. I like Kreskin a lot but in this case he just added himself to the circus of what was already an indecent media event. Just like Jackson's cheerleaders outside the courthouse. Whether the man is guilty or innocent, some respect aught to be shown for the subject matter, if for no other reason than to show some sespect for the experiences of others for whom the subject matter hits close to home. My father is involved in social work and I have known more than a few people who have suffered some form of abuse (Most people know someone). Imagine a stage hypnotist did a routine involving the sexual abuse of children, and how disgusted you would be witnessing it. I realize it's not quite the same as Kreskin's preditction, but he's not exactly predicting the outcome of the world series here either! As I said, I greatly admire Kreskin, but feel he might be a bit off the mark here.

J
Message: Posted by: Greg Owen (Jun 22, 2005 08:17AM)
J -

I hear ya, but also consider that there is a history of psychics helping the police, etc. to solve crimes. In this sense, there is a synergy between predicting the outcome of a high-profile court trial and the history of work psychics are (reputed) to have done.

Think of a psychic using a dowsing rod to locate a murdered body in the woods. Gross, yes - but relevant.

Just an alternate thought, and I agree the Jackson case may well be different and Kreskin didn't do a service in this instance.

- Greg Owen
Message: Posted by: jiggyjer (Jun 22, 2005 02:06PM)
Fraudulant psychics stcking their grifter noses into police investigations is also everybit as distressing and not an arguement that defends the jackson prediction. There is also a history of psychics talking with dead familly mebers, that doesn't mean I can accept Jon Edwards work.
Message: Posted by: Nosher (Jun 22, 2005 03:58PM)
I've had a soft spot for Kreskin ever since he pulled the wool over the (extremely willing) Viktor Korchnoi's eyes in a chess stunt.

This 50/50 doesn't do it for me though, I'm afraid. It's in the same category as the legion of "The pope will die in 2005!!" predictions I saw at new year. Common sense yes, amazing prediction - no.