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Topic: Final Destination
Message: Posted by: paraguppie (Jul 14, 2005 09:18PM)
Hi,

Does anyone perform this (or something similiar)? I looked and could not find any info on it. This is the routine where 9 cubes are lit up, the audience pics any of them, moves from place to place and ends up with the entire audience on the same cube.

There are a couple of versions on magic auction right now. I am wondering how it plays and anything else anyone would like to share about it. Also, does anyone know if this is exclusive to one company or person, or can I build my own? Don't want to build my own if it's not considered "public domain". Any help would be great.

Thanks,

Keith
Message: Posted by: Tyler_Magician (Jul 14, 2005 09:57PM)
My friend has one...and I think it is the one for sale on MagicAuction.com...the black one. It is a very nice illusion. He performed it at one of his shows that I was at, and the audience was talking about it after the show. It is the one trick that they remember.
Message: Posted by: RSD (Jul 15, 2005 01:45AM)
Not to downplay this effect too much, but I don't know how they can justify the pricetag on it. Yes it may have nice lights and such, but the principle is in pretty much any elemantary mentalism book. If you want to add this to your show, you could easilly come up with your own design that might be more customized and fit it better for your performance.
Message: Posted by: paraguppie (Jul 16, 2005 11:13AM)
RSD,

I am talking about building one because I agree, the price is pretty heafty for what you are getting. Is this considered public domain? I don't want to get my butt in a sling for ripping off someone's work. That's the last thing I want.

Also, do you have a specific book that I can look in? Thanks,

Keith
Message: Posted by: joshlondon (Jul 16, 2005 11:33AM)
Paraguppie, I would strongly suggest you find plans/book/or video of the illusion if you plan to build it. I am sure it is out there some where. You're right for not "getting your butt in a sling."

Also, what is the effect, I've never heard or seen the illusion.
Message: Posted by: Michael Dustman (Jul 16, 2005 08:14PM)
I don't know who or if any one person owns the rights to building the large apparatus.

I have an old book by Bill Herz (one of the best corporate magician and mentalists around). He put out a book in 1991 called "Secrets of the Astonishing Executive." He goes over this routine in his book and has an insert with the blank squares so that you can reproduce your own and put whatever you want on them. I know in his large corporate shows, he has a large version with lights that is flown over the stage.

In his book, he gives full credit to Max Maven for originating it. So, Bill gives permission to reproduce a version of it from his book, but you might do well by contacting either him or Max.

I make photocopies of the grid and plan with my corporate clients what they want to put on the chart. I have used it to great success over the last few years.


Michael
Message: Posted by: paraguppie (Jul 19, 2005 02:59PM)
Thanks guys, this will help a bunch. I will look for the book you mentioned Michael. You guys rock!

Keith

Wow,

I found that book for a whopping 63 cents on Amazon in "like new" condition! Thanks for the help.

Keith
Message: Posted by: Michael Dustman (Jul 19, 2005 06:45PM)
It's a great book. You will definitely make your $.63 back.

Make sure you try out "The Forget-Me-Not Business Card Handout #5" on page 156.
Message: Posted by: Tyler_Magician (Jul 19, 2005 09:13PM)
I, too, am buying this book from Amazon.
-Tyler
Message: Posted by: paraguppie (Aug 18, 2005 03:11PM)
Hi again,

I got the book you spoke of. It has a nice version of the Final Destination idea I talked about, however, you have start at a certain point (the grey square). I would like to find the version where a person has free choice of any of the nine squares. Does anyone have this version? Is it in a book somewhere? Thanks,

Keith
Message: Posted by: Tyler_Magician (Aug 18, 2005 03:54PM)
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On 2005-08-18 16:11, paraguppie wrote:
Hi again,

I got the book you spoke of. It has a nice version of the Final Destination idea I talked about, however, you have start at a certain point (the grey square). I would like to find the version where a person has free choice of any of the nine squares. Does anyone have this version? Is it in a book somewhere? Thanks,

Keith
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I just got mine in the mail a couple days ago. It got lost in the mail and they had to send out another one...Yes, that version is different, and would not be used the same way. I, too, would like to find the other version, with 9 squares...
-Tyler
Message: Posted by: NFox (Aug 18, 2005 04:21PM)
There are many websites out there with interactive versions of this. A little math should set you on the right path from there. Aside from that, I don't know where (maybe an interactive "puzzle book") this effect can be found. But I am almost positive that the principle behind it is in the public domain, but don't quote me on that.

Nick Fox
Message: Posted by: RSD (Aug 18, 2005 11:25PM)
Check out Max Maven's site.
Message: Posted by: paraguppie (Aug 19, 2005 03:34PM)
Hey guys, thanks for the help. I will do some looking online. RSD, I checked Max Maven's site and his version is also a 16 square version without a "free" choice. You have to start on a flag that has yellow on it, so actualy no different from the book we are speaking of. Still fun to do, just not what I am looking for in a stage show.

Any other guesses? Somebody must know where to find this!

Keith
Message: Posted by: RSD (Aug 19, 2005 09:19PM)
Hmmm didn't DC do this on one of his specials - was it not a free choice?

"Touch your TV screen..."

Probally isn't a free choice, and similar to Maxs' since Max helps out DC a lot. I cant be sure though.
Message: Posted by: paraguppie (Aug 19, 2005 11:09PM)
Hi,

Yup, saw DC do something similiar on his last special. It was a round shaped version for "touch the tv screen", all in a big circle. Similiar idea, I am looking for one that is 9 squares though. For instance, http://www.magicauction.com/Mag_auc/illusion_pg3.htm

It's the second item down from the top. It's a free choice to start, and everyone ends up on the same square at the end. Anybody have ideas?

Keith
Message: Posted by: NFox (Aug 19, 2005 11:28PM)
This should help (I hope): http://magic.trendy.org/interactivemagic.html click on "color theory."

Nick Fox
Message: Posted by: Farrell (Aug 19, 2005 11:53PM)
Has anyone looked in impuzzibilities by Jim Steinmeyer? that has a lot of these type of effects in it
Message: Posted by: paraguppie (Aug 20, 2005 08:58AM)
Cool! That's the closest I have seen without a forced begining (at least not too much of one) This may be the one I use Nfox, thanks for the tip.

I have never seen Impuzzibilities by Steinmeyer, does anyone have it to confirm (or deny) that it's in there? Thanks,

Keith
Message: Posted by: Tyler_Magician (Aug 20, 2005 10:50AM)
Yes, I like that one too NFox. I wouls still like to know the other version, but this one is good.
Thanks,
Tyler
Message: Posted by: NFox (Aug 20, 2005 04:11PM)
With some math, you can use whatever words you want. ;)

Nick Fox
Message: Posted by: Jack Murray (Aug 29, 2005 09:44AM)
If anyone is interested in having this effect built, I have been offered the building rights for it.

Jack
Message: Posted by: eb02 (Sep 3, 2005 01:51PM)
I used the method explained in "Secrets of the Astonishing Executive" for a corporate show a few days ago and it was grate. The reaction was excellent.
Eran
Message: Posted by: paraguppie (Sep 6, 2005 11:51PM)
I have been playing around with the online version that Nfox found for us. I have been using it as a close up effect for a few friends. So far everyone has been very impressed. I'm going to keep playing.

Keith