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Topic: My new workshop has reached Phase II !!!!!
Message: Posted by: George Ledo (Jul 23, 2005 09:22PM)
I feel like a kid again. My garage workshop has reached the next phase in development, and it's so much fun to work in, it's pitiful. Now I just have to get started building some magic props!

Photos at http://www.capital.net/~georgefl/Workshop/index.htm
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Jul 24, 2005 10:52AM)
Looks great George.
Message: Posted by: Chris Stolz (Jul 24, 2005 12:15PM)

Good stuff!
Message: Posted by: Tyler_Magician (Jul 24, 2005 12:55PM)
Very nice. It looks very efficient.
Message: Posted by: tabman (Jul 24, 2005 02:31PM)
Dang George, Im fixing to move my shop. I ought to get you to design the new one for me. You did a great job on it. I love what you did with the space and especially your rolling bench with the monster drill press. Of course, now the real hard part starts. Trying to figure out how to take over the rest of the house!!!

All the best,

Message: Posted by: George Ledo (Jul 25, 2005 08:44AM)
Thanks for your comments, all.

Tabman, if I can give you any suggestions or ideas, please feel free to ask. As far as taking over the rest of the house... shhhh... can't let Donna hear that! Gotta sneak up on it a little bit at a time!!!!!
Message: Posted by: Euangelion (Jul 25, 2005 08:49AM)
George that is a super set up.
Message: Posted by: haywire (Jul 25, 2005 02:38PM)
Yes awesome setup...

You've almost inspired me to clean out my basement full of junk (er I mean someday possibly useful props and equipment)

I have some space for a shop, never did a proper one yet. Yours looks great!

Message: Posted by: George Ledo (Jul 27, 2005 12:03AM)
Thanks so much for your kind words. Feel free to copy or steal ideas here -- I got most of mine from woodworking mags... so I guess what goes around comes around.

Have fun!!!!!
Message: Posted by: rtgreen (Jul 27, 2005 12:27PM)
OK George, I just finished setting up a new workshop in a 8'x14' shed behind my house. When I finished, I stood back and said, "Now this looks pretty good!" Then you turn around and post pictures of your shop and now I see a lot of great ideas to improve my space. I was all set to get to work building some props, but now I'm back to shop improvement projects. Next time keep your good ideas to yourself if for no other reason than to help keep me focused on the magic.

Jealously, :)
Message: Posted by: George Ledo (Jul 27, 2005 09:18PM)
I know, I know... there's one in every crowd. Sorry about that. :)

But see, the grass is always greener on the other side. I'd love to have a separate shed. Keep everything in there, not have to put stuff away in the middle of a project just so I can bring the cars in. My own little spot. Oh, well... someday...

Congratulations on your new shop, Richard. Enjoy it. Glad if I was any inspiration. How about some photos?
Message: Posted by: Chance Wolf (Jul 27, 2005 10:35PM)
Great job George!! It makes me miss the times when the process of building magic was a bit simpler. Just sitting in my basement making a new trick now and then...hmmm...anybody got a Time Machine?? :)
Message: Posted by: tabman (Jul 28, 2005 04:30PM)
Working on the work space is part of the fun, After you make a few of anything you have to look for ways to stay interested so I channel my interests into the process. I try to make a finer cut, sand it smoother, route it cleaner. Get some good safety glasses and something to cover your mouth and nose at those special times. Also I've found ear plugs to invaluable. Running lumber through a shaping table or a planer for an hour will make you crazy without the earplugs. At least for me anyway.

Take care of those ears and don't breathe in too much wood dust. In can screw your lungs. I speak from experience and I know what I'm talking about. I'm the idiot who used to go home talking about how much he loved the smell of rosewood dust after breathing it all day. Don't do it, I don't care how good it smells. It's not worth it.

Message: Posted by: rtgreen (Jul 28, 2005 05:59PM)
I agree with you 100%, tabman. I've only been woodworking about a year now and figured I wasn't really doing heavy enough work to worry about things like air masks. I was building a lot of things out fo cedar (I had a lot of scrap cedar around the house) and noticed I was having a little trouble breathing. I figured it must be allergies, so I didn't worry too much about it. Soon, I was breathing and coughing like I had been a heavy smoker all of my life. It got bad enough that I took a couple of trips to the doctor and was put on some inhalers. Even at this point, I wasn't thinking it was the wood dust. Afterall, I wasn't doing that much work in the shop. But soon I got wise and invested in a good air mask which I wear most of the time when I am cutting and always when I am sanding. My breathing has cleared up and I am a new believer in shop safety. Its abou t more than just keeping all your fingers. Take the slow damage like hearing, eyesight and breathing seriously too.

Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jul 28, 2005 11:00PM)
Dust is a big problem. African Wenge knocked me down a few months ago like I was hit with the flu. I've heard Cocobolo is extremely toxic, and from the looks of the dust it produces, I can believe it. It looks like yellow fungus.
Message: Posted by: George Ledo (Jul 28, 2005 11:00PM)
Chance -- did you really have to mention missing the old days? :) I remember when I was in high school and had a little shop in my parents' basement. Sometimes I'd come home from school and go right down there. I spent so many weekends spent building stuff for my shows and an occasional piece for somebody else. If you find somebody with a time machine, let me know!

Tabman and Richard -- right on! Take care of your own machinery. You can't toss out your eyes, ears, or lungs and find new ones on eBay or at Grizzly. Wearing a respirator or goggles is a pain, but it's worth t in the long run.

BTW, I found these bifocal safety glasses at Woodcraft. No kidding. They're basically ANSI approved safety glasses with reading glasses built into them, and come in different diopters. I think I paid about $20 for mine, and they're great.

Michael -- didn't mean to ignore your comment. Apparently you were typing away at the same time I was and yours got in before mine. Ah, technology... :)
Message: Posted by: Steven Steele (Jul 29, 2005 01:06AM)

I started thinking about putting a shop in one of my garages last year. I'm not finish carpenter (I used to frame houses in my youth); so I'm certainly lack some skills, but I wanted to make a few things just for me. I've been collecting some reading material telling me the tools I need and setup diagrams.

Your pictures were really inspiring. Thank you for sharing...now if I could only clean out enough stuff to make room for my new toys...
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jul 29, 2005 08:30AM)
Great timing George.

Eye protection, and other body armor could also be discussed. Last year I decided to turn a big wooden cannonball to replicate a J.Bland piece. It is to be the "drop-on-the floor-convincer", where the other can't be handled that way.

Anyway, I had the appropriate number of one inch pieces of poplar laminated together, with a 1" dowel running through the center for both extra inner support and to have something to chuck up.

The ball had been rough-shaped before it ever got near the lathe. Well, all good intentions seed potential disaster. My roughing gouge dug in like the Marines at Normandy, and the dowel snapped. The "ball" went flying past my head and the next thing I knew, it was bouncing across the floor behind me.

I had recently seen, "Pirates of the Caribbean", so the Alabama translation for "Yo, ho!" shot out of my mouth, and I had a sudden urge to find the rum.

I'm sure I was simultaneously pelted with smaller splinters of wood, but I didn't really notice the forest for the tree. I'm glad I was wearing a full face shield, though.
Message: Posted by: George Ledo (Jul 29, 2005 09:19AM)
On 2005-07-29 09:30, Michael Baker wrote:
I had recently seen, "Pirates of the Caribbean", so the Alabama translation for "Yo, ho!" shot out of my mouth, and I had a sudden urge to find the rum.

I used the NY version (haven't been in CA long enough to adopt the local chilled-out version) of that myself last week when the table saw blade caught a push stick and sent it over my shoulder to bounce against the back wall. Man, those tools just don't have a sense of humor.

Glad you got thru it safely. How did the cannonball turn out?

BTW, I'm really dating myself here, but it was only recently that I finally figured out that LOL doesn't stand for Little Old Lady...
Message: Posted by: Doug Malloy (Jul 29, 2005 01:58PM)
Great Shop George...
Making everything able to roll around and stackable is the perfect solution
to more confineing work areas.

Two great publications,if you don't already know about, are
Shopsmith and Woodsmith both put out by Woodsmith Corp. in Ia.
They are both bimonthly publications.
1 800-333-5075

If you have any building questions feel free to give me a call.

All the best

PS. Just recently added some of the Monster House "Magic House" episode
photo's on our site.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jul 29, 2005 03:07PM)
Gee, no sawdust yet!
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Jul 29, 2005 09:30PM)
I stick to sheet metal mainly. Much less dust. Feathers are another matter.

Tabman, I solved the problem of taking over the house. When I got remarried, I kept my house as the shop. Of course, I still have it set up as house also just in case. But it crammed full of way too much stuff.

Message: Posted by: George Ledo (Jul 30, 2005 03:29PM)
Hey, Doug,

I love Woodsmith; it's a great mag with lots of how-to information. Shop Notes is good too. Another favorite is Fine Woodworking.

Thanks for your thoughts and offer. I may just take you up that at some point.

Message: Posted by: Dave Fiscus (Jul 30, 2005 08:01PM)
I'm new to the Magic Café but headed to the "workshop" section today, as soon as I registered. Your shop looks great!
My shop is also in my garage and I've crammed in the usual table saw, band saw, radial saw, jointer, and all the other woodworking goodies. My space problems really started after taking a couple of years of metal-fabrication classes at the local college after retiring. Now I've added a 9 x 20 metal lathe, a 400 lb mill/drill, a big air compressor (seldom used) and an acetylene/air soldering station. Makes our Honda Accord hard to cram in every night!
Your nested tools look very good, I should do more of that.
My household responsibilities of course take priority but I always have a magic project going, too. Right now I'm finishing a reproduction of Okito's jumbo card frame run by a timed release using a piston lowered by sand. Each of eight pieces of the card appear individually and then the whole thing is ejected. It has taken months sporatic of work because I also have been painting the house, fixing the sprinklers and pond, etc. My advice is not to wait until house projects are finished, they are always popping up. Start making a magic project now, while doing your other jobs!
Message: Posted by: George Ledo (Jul 31, 2005 12:18PM)
Hi, Dave, and welcome to the Café'!!!!!

Sounds like you have a great setup there, with both wood and metal equipment. One of these days I'll get a metal lathe and a mill, or maybe one of the combination machines. I'm also planning on taking the time to take some classes.

Thanks for your advice -- you're absolutely right. House stuff will always be there. Gotta put things in perspective. :)

How about posting a photo of your card frame sometime? We don't seem to see much of that type of work any more.
Message: Posted by: Dave Fiscus (Jul 31, 2005 10:00PM)
I'll try but I'm not sure exactly how to submit a picture..I don't have a web site. The Café's FAQs said I can attach a file (and I assume it can be a jpeg picture) to this message by checking the attachment box but I don't see one here.
Message: Posted by: George Ledo (Aug 1, 2005 08:58AM)
I'm not sure how to do it either, although I've seen it done. You may want to try the tech support area and post a question there. They're actually very good about answering questions.
Message: Posted by: Dave Fiscus (Aug 1, 2005 04:56PM)
Here is a picture of the back of my relica Okito card Frame, It is sitting on my rather cluttered workbench and you cannot see the black base, but you get an idea of my progress. The eight sprung latches connect to eight flaps on the front of the frame that cover a jumbo card. The boxy brass thing in the middle rides downward springing each of the latches.
Message: Posted by: kregg (Aug 1, 2005 05:07PM)
Nice... onto phase III?