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Topic: Unreal Work vs. Fernando Keops vol. 1 - Cheating at Cards
Message: Posted by: RealDeal JU (Aug 1, 2005 11:32PM)
They both sound like very good DVD's. Which is the "better buy"? I own Fan-2-C and think that Paul Wilson is very creative. I don't own anything of Keops therefore I don't know of his style of teaching. So what are some of your opinions? Thanks.

Message: Posted by: Alejandro Peterson (Aug 2, 2005 08:36AM)
Fernando Keops teach all the technique in deep, deep detail I highly recommend you his DVD set.
Message: Posted by: Corey Harris (Aug 2, 2005 09:26AM)
I don't have Keops DVD's yet, Quite honestly his smile scares me. lol. But I do have the Unreal Work DVD and it is great. I highly reccomend it.
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Aug 2, 2005 11:49AM)
his smile scares me. lol.
That is even funnier when looking at your avatar. :lol:
Message: Posted by: winstonwolf (Aug 2, 2005 12:06PM)
That is even funnier when looking at your avatar. :lol:

Or yours!
Message: Posted by: Abiloko (Aug 2, 2005 12:24PM)
The Keops's dvd gives you an explanation step by step of all the techniques, and show you the applications in magic with the public, I think it's a good introductory work about the gambling techniques, but in my opinion "Unreal work" explain more advanced tips. The two dvd's are good, and perfectly compatible.
Message: Posted by: Laszlo Csizmadi (Aug 2, 2005 05:07PM)
I had a bad experience with Keops and I wouldn't buy his dvd beside that he is a nice guy.
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Aug 3, 2005 01:55PM)
I had a great experience with Fernando both at the shoot and eating Sushi on the way to the airport. Amazing guy, amazingly talented magician and teacher. L&L has a real hidden treasure with this DVD set.
Message: Posted by: Laszlo Csizmadi (Aug 3, 2005 07:46PM)
Yes I admit that he is very nice guy. About his work I was stunned how many mistakes he did in Punta Cana. Even people complained.
Message: Posted by: superdave101 (Aug 3, 2005 09:38PM)
I don't think is good to talk about other magicians mistakes.
I respect all magicians regardless of making mistakes.
I don't think there's a magician who hasn't made mistakes.
I think Fernando is without a doubt an excellent magician.

David R.
Message: Posted by: Alejandro Peterson (Aug 3, 2005 09:55PM)
I know how you feel, a few years ago David Copperfield came to Mexico city at the auditorio nacional, and he canīt fly because something was wrong, but this things could happen to any magician, if you have the Guastaferros lecture notes "Second Storm" he wrote about a restaurant performance and the whole deck felt down to the flor, so averybody can make mistakes, but all the awards wone by Keops are because he is fantastic, he is really amazing, not only in close up also in parlor and stage magic, in my opinion one of the best magicians in the world. and about the new dvdīs I only can said AMAZING SET!
Message: Posted by: Laszlo Csizmadi (Aug 3, 2005 10:57PM)
You guys souldn't asking in PM what went wrong. I just said the truth. You can ask him personally because he'll remember my email. And yes David we should talk about other people mistakes. I saw on other topic where people talking Copperfield mistakes. Of course no one perfect. Everyone making mistakes so you can learn and avoid the same. Maybe his dvd is good because they edit what they don't need but I still will not buy.
Alejandro: I know he is from the same country as you so I understand your point.
Maybe he didn't practiced. Or he did tricks which he didn't performed long time. Or he tought Punta Cana is not Caesar Pallace and he didn't care. My co worker went to the same place 2 weeks later and Fernando wasn't there anymore. What I think EVERYONE should perform his best everywhere and do not make differences between Caesar Pallace or Punta Cana.