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Topic: Dry hands
Message: Posted by: Amazing Rallo (Aug 12, 2005 06:46PM)
Do you guys know if any of the so called palm grip solutions work?

My hands are so dry that I can't do card manipulations, billiard ballselmsley,count, buckel count, ect.
I have tried various hand lotions,and nothing works.
I was wondering if the stuff the magic dealers sell actually work.
Does anyone have any experience with this?
Message: Posted by: Joey Stalin (Aug 12, 2005 11:19PM)
Sortkwik. Works beautifully. Or you could try other fingertip moisteners.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Aug 13, 2005 01:51AM)
The stuff on the market does work, or for hand cream I use Neutrogena, it is not greasy. Some like corn huskers but I find it to thick.

You can make it yourself from products from the drug store. But why?
Message: Posted by: rumdrum (Aug 14, 2005 01:53AM)
Amazing Rallo,
Norm Nielsen used to make a product, I think it was called "manipulators hand lotion". I don't think he makes it anymore, but I could be wrong. But it is amzing stuff if you can get hold of some. It is more a liquid than a lotion. It is not greasy at all, nor is it sticky. And you could palm an elephant after using a few drops.
Message: Posted by: Doug Arden (Aug 14, 2005 09:34AM)
Vagisil works very well. For obvious reasons I got my wife to pick it up for me.
Message: Posted by: joshlondon (Aug 14, 2005 10:40AM)
Doug,

Just out of pure curiosity, at what point did you think, "Hey Vagisil?" That is so fuuny! It's like the first person who thought, "I am going to eat the next thing that falls out of that chicken, and call it an egg."
Message: Posted by: Jim Stan Magic Man (Aug 14, 2005 09:38PM)
Working Hands Creme works great. You can get it at Walgreens, or they can order it if it is not in stock. It is only about $8 per jar.
Message: Posted by: markis (Aug 15, 2005 09:34AM)
I've got some of Tannens manipulators lotions from a long time ago. Combination of rosewater and glycerin, I believe. I think the best thing that manipulation lotion offers is your hands are in the same state regarding the humidity, your hydration level, etc. So if you are going to work on some manipulations you should probably use some manip. lotions first. You would probably be in trouble if you only used it the day of your show when your nervous, hands are sweaty or dry. Consistency would be the key here.
Message: Posted by: Midnight333 (Aug 15, 2005 12:32PM)
If you want them to be dry and slightly tacky, then antiperspirant works well. It also keeps your hands from sweating, I mean that's what it does. Try it.
Message: Posted by: Fort worth Magic (Aug 15, 2005 03:33PM)
CHAMBERLAIN GOLDEN TOUCH LOTION. Try your local drugstore for it, I carry it in a little spray bottle ( is more of a liquid than lotion). A couple of sprays and you can palm anything, and it is not greasy.
Message: Posted by: Fort worth Magic (Aug 15, 2005 03:39PM)
Here is a link to buy Chaimberlins on line
http://www.vitaherbexpress.com/en/chamberlain.htm
Here is what thier add says:
Chamberlainís Golden Touch Dry Skin Lotion is a rich formula that softens, smooths and moisturizes deep down dry skin with its combination of glycerin and sorbitol in a penetrating cologne base that quickly disappears. Used for over 100 years to help heal rough, red and chapped hands, knees and elbows, often after ordinary lotions have failed. Economical and all purpose. An ideal after bath and body lotion plus a superb dry skin make-up base. A few drops check dry scalp, conditions your skin after shaving, and moisturizes dry, faded suntans.


Did you know that Chamberlainís Golden Touch Dry Skin Lotion, because of itís fast absorption which leaves the skin completely dry to the touch is used by magicians in North America because it will not impede their dexterity.
Message: Posted by: Doug Arden (Aug 15, 2005 03:54PM)
Hey Josh:

I discovered it's properties quite by accident (don't ask!). The fun part was standing at the register in WalMart when my wife put two bottles of this stuff on the counter. I just stood there with a small grin on my face looking like I was getting ready for a big weekend!
Message: Posted by: Daniel Faith (Aug 17, 2005 11:25PM)
I use Lubriderm with good success. It's not greasy.
Also cornhuskers lotion is very good.
In a pinch....use spit.
Message: Posted by: The Cardfather (Sep 22, 2005 06:09PM)
Just came across a golf product called "Grrrip." It goes on wet but dries instantly to a fine powder. Must be a rossin of some kind like pitchers use.
Message: Posted by: DerekMerdinyan (Sep 22, 2005 10:51PM)
I will be writing an article soon on this site, but I have been using something for a while that has helped me alot. Parafin Wax. Get your hands warm, either by soaking them in warm water and drying, or holding them under a hair dryer. Either way, get them warm and then take a .5x1x1 inch cube of the wax and massage it over your hands. It is a little rough at first, but after doing this for 3-4 days in a row, it goes on great. It gives them a good friction to your hand, yet it remains very soft and NOT AT ALL STICKY. Nor does it smell or is it oily. When I am sitting around and I need to fiddle with something, I usually have a small piece of wax in my hands to "rub them down."

Derek Merdinyan
Message: Posted by: graywolf (Sep 23, 2005 08:00AM)
Lou Lancaster turned me on to Ball Grip. You get it at your local bowling alley. You can palm a bowling ball, with a very small amount. You must experiment with it, especially if you are using silks.

Cordially, Howard
Message: Posted by: Darkwing (Sep 23, 2005 04:49PM)
If you have problems palming hank balls, dye tubes or palmo ball, paint flesh tone latex on to the gimmick and it will not go anywhere. You can palm any gimmick with a minimum of effort. It works great and peels right off.
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Sep 25, 2005 08:33AM)
I like Corn Huskers Lotion - gives a "tire tread" grip. Gold Bond (unscented) Lotion is good for moisturizing.
Message: Posted by: briancherbo (Sep 27, 2005 06:39PM)
Rollo, there is a long thread somewhere on the forum about "Edge Card Creme" which Michael Skinner used constantly. (He always kept a small jar strapped to his ankle!)
This stuff is made by the company that makes Sort-Qwik, but it's formulated specifically for magicians. I know of a number of magicians that swear by it, I have seen many performaers just slather their hands with the stuff before going on stage, and have only herd great things about it. The link to the discussion elsewhere on the forum is here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=127098&forum=2

The link to the manufacturer is http://www.ourproductstore.com, while the review is at http://www.legerdomain.com . (I just pasted these from the above discussion)

Thinking this is in a way a "band-Aid," I also use other lotions more for "healing" the problem. For MY hands, the BEST products I have found (after trying amany) are the "Bert's Bees" line of almond hand restorer, which is a thick formula in a jar, and Lubriderm lotion which is less expensive (Walgreens) My mother was a make-up consultant and said the thicker moisterizers are what they use in Europe and are better. If you REALLY want to get serious, put some of this on and wear the plastic "gloves" (they sell for this at most drug stores) at night!

Hope this helps - I think you will be very happy with the Edge-Creme.

Best,
Brian
Message: Posted by: kcedelcycib (Sep 30, 2005 04:31AM)
I wish someone would market some sorta "lotion sampler" kit for magicians where you get lil single use packets of all the different lotions out there. It can get pretty expensive trying all those products till you find one you're happy with.
Message: Posted by: BobGreaves (Oct 9, 2005 07:21AM)
I find that the first thing to help is not to use any sort of detergent or strong soap. Washing up liquid takes away oils and what seems like the top layer of skin. Goshman, I understand, recommended not washing your hands. If you can get away with that it's best - I find that the best condition my hands are in is when I wake up (nothing to do with Vagisil either!).
If my hands are not grippy enough I use a mixture of 1/3 tap water; 1/3 glycerine; 1/3 surgical spirit (= rubbing alcohol in the US). This is non-greasy and is very thin, so it's difficult to over-apply. Michael Close I believe has recommended this. It's cheap too (600 ml for £1.50 each of surgical spirit and glycerine).
Message: Posted by: icentertainment (Oct 9, 2005 08:00AM)
If all else fails, go the Cardini route, and use gloves with spit.
Message: Posted by: SeaDawg (Sep 16, 2006 06:46AM)
Great ideas guys,

When work out in the intense sun for hours, I dry up bad and was looking for some ideas. My hands get so dry I cant even do an erdnase.

And that my friends is dry.
Message: Posted by: Paul Jester (Sep 16, 2006 10:20AM)
For Card manips I quite like dry hands, but for everything else I use Violin Rosin.

Highly poisonous if you eat it, so wash your hands, but this makes wooden balls grip like silicone, even with dry hands. So I can still do my cards, and balls, in the same act :D. I've used it in close-up to pick up coins in a chink-a-chink too. It's so reliable, and as used by Jeff McBride, and Roy Davenport.

I swear by this stuff.
Paul
Message: Posted by: Signor Blitz (Sep 21, 2006 02:58AM)
Wow! The answers are as diverse and unique as each performer. I will throw one out there - Witch Hazel. Not only does it cut any oils/dirt/sweat that maybe present it also gives the tact you want/need for billards, cards, coins and thimbles. Not so much so that it is difficult to work with your silk/poly scarves, rope or any other material.
Message: Posted by: Wytchewoode (Oct 20, 2012 09:18AM)
I would go along with Bob's suggestion. I read many years ago, probably in a magic book I think, about a similar recipe for hands: 1/3 surgical spirtit, 1/3 glycerin and 1/3 witch hazel. These are quite cheap to buy, simply mixed and great for the hands.



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On 2005-10-09 08:21, BobGreaves wrote:
I find that the first thing to help is not to use any sort of detergent or strong soap. Washing up liquid takes away oils and what seems like the top layer of skin. Goshman, I understand, recommended not washing your hands. If you can get away with that it's best - I find that the best condition my hands are in is when I wake up (nothing to do with Vagisil either!).
If my hands are not grippy enough I use a mixture of 1/3 tap water; 1/3 glycerine; 1/3 surgical spirit (= rubbing alcohol in the US). This is non-greasy and is very thin, so it's difficult to over-apply. Michael Close I believe has recommended this. It's cheap too (600 ml for £1.50 each of surgical spirit and glycerine).
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Message: Posted by: lynnef (Oct 20, 2012 12:40PM)
Back in my days of sorting mail, we used a little moistened sponge in a small bowl when hands got dry. Lynn