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Topic: Angles at the dinner table
Message: Posted by: Malcolm Kavalsky (Oct 15, 2005 12:32AM)
Which routines do you do at a dinner table when you are sitting with people on all sides (except behind), especially real close on your left.

Last night I was in this situation, and all I could think of was Hanging Coins. Here at least keeping the coins at eye-level worked well.

What are your favourites ?
Message: Posted by: Jamie Schoolcraft (Oct 15, 2005 12:33AM)
Translocation
Message: Posted by: mike gallo (Oct 15, 2005 12:39AM)
Fechters Flying Eagles

Mike
Message: Posted by: perceptions (Oct 15, 2005 12:45AM)
Evans' The Eagles Have Landed
Message: Posted by: 2thepoint (Oct 15, 2005 02:00AM)
The "Evans' The Eagles Have Landed" is also my favorite routine to end with.

This routine is perhaps one of the best versions of the Winged Silver plot: where four coins travel from one hand to the other and finally, to the spectator's closed hand. In the Evans routine the coin(s) travel TWICE to the spectators closed hands. The method uses an expanded [ and another gimmick coin, along with an Al Schneider subtlety. What's helpful, is that throughout the routine, every other coin is being used as a "wand" to mask the moves.

Also, turning over the traveling coins to tails side up (or as Malini would say: wings up")pyschologically sells the invisible traveling of the coins -- a small detail that enhances the overall effect.
Message: Posted by: Gene B (Oct 15, 2005 03:24AM)
"The Eagles Have Landed"--Where is this written up??

Gene B
Message: Posted by: Malcolm Kavalsky (Oct 15, 2005 04:08AM)
How do you prevent spectators on your left from getting a flash of palmed coins in your right hand ? Remember they are real close.
Message: Posted by: Clarioneer (Oct 15, 2005 04:38AM)
Coin trho' table, Gadabout or All screwed-up, ungimmicked S&S, holy moly...
Message: Posted by: mike gallo (Oct 15, 2005 07:26AM)
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On 2005-10-15 05:08, Malcolm Kavalsky wrote:
How do you prevent spectators on your left from getting a flash of palmed coins in your right hand ? Remember they are real close.
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This is what makes the fingerpalm so valuable...especially when sitting at a table. Your angles are so well covered. If you do need to classic palm...keep the hand palm down as much as possible.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Jaz (Oct 15, 2005 09:33AM)
There are two effects involving a glass in Kaufman's "Collected Almanac".
"Iced" and "Cocktail Time (?)".

Most of Roth's Coins Across will work. For me his "[ Coins Across". In a situation like this I usually bring my Quarter[.

Lots of C/S routines work as do commercial tricks like "Dime and Penny", "Double X" or Acer's "Spare Change". Most of these I mention use US coins though.

Using stuff on the table in combo w/ coins: glass, cloth napkin, the table itself etc, is good.
Lapping even in this situation is not out of the question as long as attention is elsewhere. "Coins thru Table".

The old effect where you cover a coin w/ a glass and napkin and end w/ the glass going thru the table is always good.

Best,
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Oct 15, 2005 09:53AM)
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On 2005-10-15 01:32, Malcolm Kavalsky wrote:
Which routines do you do at a dinner table when you are sitting with people on all sides (except behind), especially real close on your left...[/quote]

This is one of the reasons that make Edge Grip attractive and as Mike pointed out FingerPalm very practical.

One strategy that seems useful is to make one's magic move from your right TO your left. And fully direct your attention to the results of the magic. Another strategy you might apply is to engage the audience member at your most vulnerable angle and get them into the routines and ask them questions as the routines move alone. This directs their eyes up to you as you ask them and directs them to the rest of the group as they answer about what is where etc.

Hope this helps, -Jon
Message: Posted by: 2thepoint (Oct 15, 2005 09:54AM)
Gene B,

I was at a recent motorcycle convention in Phoenix, Arizona. There was a small booth where two young guys were "pitching the Svengali Deck" and a crowd had gathered because a group of three hecklers were demanding to be "fooled".

In the background, this older, huge guy (standing 6'7" ?) comes out of the booth and approaches the hecklers. I'm thinking that he's the bouncer. He walks up to the group with a big smile, asking: " you want to see something very special".

He opens an antique coin purse, and mist/smoke comes rolling out of it as he reveals four Walking Liberty Halves.

With the three hecklers surrounding him, he(Evans)did his version of the Winged Silver plot. He had me fooled with his unique use of an Al Schneider subtlety.

He ended the routine by taking one of the four coins from the spectator's closed fist and made it travel back. Then repeated the same effect again in a very visual way. The novety of this second phase effect is that the [ is being used as a convincer (for the second coin) while setting up the other coin. Evans actually placed the gimmicked coin on the spectator's palm and gave a slight upward tap on the spectator's palm to visually make the coin travel.

I don't use the gimmick. The routine with the patter and handling is perfect as is.

After introducing myself as a fellow magician. Evans mailed me his manuscript of THE EAGLES HAVE LANDED, free of cost. Great guy.

I will PM you his mailing address.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Oct 15, 2005 10:17AM)
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On 2005-10-15 10:54, 2thepoint wrote:...He opens an antique coin purse, and mist/smoke comes rolling out of it as he reveals four Walking Liberty Halves...[/quote]

Wow! BIG SMILE HERE Wonderful! Bet that made many people's day special.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Oct 15, 2005 11:57AM)
GREAT STORY.... now there's an example of real magic. Geezes now I gotta get Jamie to make me a flipper. ARgh... (as soon as the insurance pays me)!

Wait... maybe Joe can make one out of a poker chip for me... aha... :spoon:
Message: Posted by: Malcolm Kavalsky (Oct 15, 2005 01:36PM)
Jon,

Thanks for the tip on concentrating on the specs on the vulnerable side. Great idea to keep their eyes from burning my hands.

Jaz,

I wouldn't be able to lap in this situation since it was a rectangular table, but probably this could be done if it was a circular table.

Thanks for all the help guys!
Message: Posted by: Rob Elliott (Oct 17, 2005 09:35AM)
Why can't you lap at a rectangular table?