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Topic: Christmas effects
Message: Posted by: ruiefe (Nov 5, 2002 06:42PM)
Isn'it time to begin the research of effects for Christmas?
Frances Marshall has some very neat effects for Christmas in his set of books.
The only problem is that most of them need a degree in "DIY Prop construction". :(
Does anyone "dresses" some of his all-year effects for Christmas (patter, prop modification,...)?
Rui Fernandes
Message: Posted by: Alex W. (Nov 5, 2002 06:48PM)
How about a Christmasy change bag? I bet someone makes one. I saw a Halloween change bag at my local magic shop. Perfect for candy!
Message: Posted by: ruiefe (Nov 5, 2002 07:02PM)
If my change bag was red it would look like Santa's hat. To bad it is black.
But i'm already toying with the idea of putting some decoration into it to give him a more Christmas look
Thanks
Rui Fernandes
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Nov 6, 2002 07:29AM)
Here are some nice Christmas Show Effects

[list]
[*][url=http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/products_detail.cfm?item=1905][b]Santa Chimney[/b][/url]
[*][url=http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/products_detail.cfm?item=1907][b]Santa Stuck in the Chimney[/b][/url]
[*][url=http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/products_detail.cfm?item=1909][b]Peppermint Stick Nesting Wands [/b][/url]
[*][url=http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/products_detail.cfm?item=1920][b]Christmas Stocking Change Bag[/b][/url]
[*][url=http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/products_detail.cfm?item=1916][b]Christmas Silk[/b][/url]
[*][url=http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/products_detail.cfm?item=2672][b]Santa's Suit[/b][/url]
[*][url=http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/products_detail.cfm?item=2691][b]Christmas Lights[/b][/url]
[/list]

Here is a list of items I draw from when developing a Christmas Show. It can be also a fundraising Christmas Illusion Show:

[b]Christmas Stage Magic[/b]
[list]
[*][b]Altex Drawing Board- Frosty or Santa[/b]
[*][b]20th Century Santa Silks[/b]
[*][b]Dancing Candy Cane[/b]
[*][b]Appearing Candy Cane[/b]
[*][b]Dancing Handkerchief[/b]
[*][b]Enchanted Treasure Chest[/b]
[*][b]Snow Storm[/b]
[*][b]Christmas Coloring Book[/b]
[*][b]Lota Bowl[/b]
[*][b]Linking Rings[/b]
[*][b]Santa Chimney[/b]
[*][b]Santa Stuck in the Chimney[/b]
[*][b]Peppermint Stick Nesting Wands[/b]
[*][b]Christmas Stocking Change Bag[/b]
[*][b]Santa's Suit (Mis-Made Santa Silks)[/b]
[*][b]Christmas Lights (Mis-Made Christmas Tree Silks with Lights)[/b]
[*][b]Seance Cloth Dancing Animated Christmas Wreath[/b]
[*][b]Square Circle-Pull Out Christmas Gifts and Comedy Props[/b]
[*][b]Fraidy Cat Rabbit (Getting Dirty in Chimney)[/b]
[*][b]Hippy Hop Rabbit (Getting Dirty in Chimney)[/b]
[*][b]Zombie Ball (Floating Christmas Ball)[/b]
[*][b]Christmas Light (Unfinished Christmas Tree)[/b]
[*][b]Delite TT (Christmas Lights)[/b]
[*][b]Zippered Change Bag[/b]
[*][b]The Vanishing Bandana (Christmas Gift Received)[/b]
[*][b]Crystal Silk Tube (Christmas Hankerchiefs))[/b]
[*][b]Wiz Kote (Christmas Appliance Gift)[/b]
[*][b]Viking Himber Nest of Boxes (Christmas Watch)[/b]
[*][b]Egg Bag with Christmas Ball[/b]
[*][b]Anderson Paper Tear (Christmas Wrapping Paper)[/b]
[*][b]Fastest Trick in the World Flower Vanish[/b]
[*][b]Flower Bouquet Production (Christmas Flowers)[/b]
[*][b]Zimmer Egg (Christmas Silk to Egg)[/b]
[*][b]Miser's Dream (Christmas Spending)[/b]
[*][b]Coin Tray (Christmas Spending)[/b]
[*][b]Rabbit Washer (Christmas Appliance Gift)[/b]
[*][b]Rabbit Wringer (Christmas Appliance Gift)[/b]
[*][b]Rabbit Bucket (Christmas Appliance Gift)[/b]
[*][b]Rabbit in Hat Silks[/b]
[*][b]Rabbit in Hat[/b]
[*][b]Rabid Rabbit[/b]
[*][b]Fastest Trick Dove Rabbit Vanish Table[/b]
[*][b]Instant Magician[/b]
[*][b]Balloon to Rabbit [/b]
[/list]

[b]Christmas Illusions [/b]
[list]
[*][b]Crystal Casket(Santa or Assistant Production)[/b]
[*][b]Tip-Over Box (Santa Production)[/b]
[*][b]Balloon Sword Box[/b]
[*][b]Cutting In Sixths[/b]
[*][b]Stack of Boxes[/b]
[*][b]Zig-Zag[/b]
[*][b]Sawing In Half[/b]
[*][b]Fire Cage[/b]
[*][b]Jukebox Twister[/b]
[*][b]Stack of Boxes[/b]
[*][b]Modern Cabinet[/b]
[*][b]Flash Appearance[/b]
[*][b]Super X Suspension[/b]
[*][b]Sword Suspension[/b]
[*][b]Broom Suspension[/b]
[*][b]Flying Carpet[/b]
[*][b]Gamalo Levitation[/b]
[*][b]3-in-1 Levitation[/b]
[*][b]Pole Levitation[/b]
[*][b]Any Levitation or Suspension[/b]
[/list]

[b]Christmas Comedy Props [/b]
[list]
[*][b]Christmas Silk (Production)[/b]
[*][b]Christmas Props- In Square Circle or Other Box[/b]
[*][b]Gag Bag[/b]
[*][b]Spring Snakes[/b]
[*][b]Streatching Glove[/b]
[*][b]Comedy Light Bulb[/b]
[*][b]Penelope Pine Animated Christmas Tree[/b]
[*][b]Talking Christmas Wreath[/b]
[*][b]Axtell "Vern the Bird" Christmas Routine[/b]
[/list]

Of course this list can be much longer, however, most of these items are in my collection.
Message: Posted by: p.b.jones (Nov 6, 2002 07:45AM)
A bit late now I would have thought to be learning new effects for christmas!
Phillip
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Nov 6, 2002 08:09AM)
You could always add a new item to your collection and try it out in your shows.
Message: Posted by: ruiefe (Nov 6, 2002 01:06PM)
[quote]
Of course this list can be much longer, however, most of these items are in my collection.
[/quote]
I would love to have a house like that. Unfortunately, I even have to live to the fact that my family doesn't want me to occupy more than 70% of the house with magical props :s:
Thanks for your helpful reply. I will analyse every item and cry for help if I need

Rui Fernandes
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Nov 6, 2002 04:51PM)
Phillip Jones says: "A bit late now I would have thought to be learning new effects for Christmas!"

You beat me to it! That is, in essence, what I was going to say.

Now is the time to be planning for NEXT Christmas, not this one!

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Cheshire Cat (Nov 6, 2002 05:05PM)
I'm probably Ebenezer Scrooge guys, but to be quite honest it's just 'business as normal' with props. over Christmas. Obviously the music reflects the occasion. I think the atmosphere we create at our Golf Club/Company/School/Nursery School do's is enough in itself. We also make a point of NOT dropping the Birthdays in December and people really appreciate this. :birthday:
Message: Posted by: ruiefe (Nov 6, 2002 05:54PM)
[quote]
Now is the time to be planning for NEXT Christmas, not this one!
[/quote]
Touché!
In fact, as I don't do shows for large audiences (see my post "Number changes everything"), I'm not requested to do Christmas shows.
This year I'm considering a charity show for Christmas and needed your input on this matter.
I'll do my birthday show and would like to introduce one or two effects as Dennis suggested (altough with his big list I'm not sure if I can choose two until Christmas :g:
Uncle Scrooge :g:, thanks for the tip: when my future schedule will be full of big Christmas parties, I will not forget birthday parties
Rui Fernandes
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Nov 6, 2002 06:44PM)
Many effects that are normally done can be easily converted to a Christmas theme.

20th Century silks is 20th Century silks with a Christmas silk inbetween.

Fraidy cat rabbit got stuck in the chimney. Start out with the Black rabbit instead of the white. Simple change same trick.

Miser's Dream is Still Miser's dream, Except we would all like additional money to Christmas Shop.

The point is that the standard tricks can be easily converted with a Christmas twist to it.

Now is the time to buy for next year's Halloween Shows, the props and setting environment are now at an all time low.

There is nothing wrong with a Christmas Birthday party. Do 21th Century Happy Birthday, and do a mismatched Santa instead of a Mismatched Flag. Picking about six effects with some comedy props and variety act (Balloons, Vent, Juggling) and you got a good format for a show. A Seance Cloth with a singing Snowman is a good variety/magic routine.

You can add if you know the effect and the presentation. A slight change in music and a twist in the usual routine is all that is necessary.
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Nov 6, 2002 10:19PM)
Dennis makes a good point -- that standard effects can be converted to Christmas routines.
But the point remains that it still has to be worked out in rehearsal as a Christmas routine; any change should require a whole new thinking.
A couple of ideas I've done over the years, that appeared in my Showtime column in the Linking Ring, are the dove pan, for cooking a Christmas turkey, and the Gag Bag, for producing presents, or ending with an old Sid Lorraine joke about a tie.
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Nov 7, 2002 05:36AM)
The concept is simple as Peter mentioned. The same dove pan routine, but change the production to match a seasonal theme. Add one or two comedy one-liners related to the production prop, and you hit home with the client (hopefully) ...Santa production at a some events may not go over well!

Every show one does, a post-evaluation should be written related to that show and include ways to enhance the show.
Message: Posted by: helder (Oct 26, 2010 12:24PM)
I am thinking about creating a theme Christmas show without rush, to be ready next year, and I would like to listen your opinion. If you guys have a show specifically for this occasion, routines that are part of it, presented with Christmas music or stories?


Something around Santa, Christmas tree etc

JUST A COUPLE OF EFFECTS THAT ARE IN MY MIND :



Warm up - maybe Off the Metter by Axtell ( does anyone do this?)

Some routine with Christmas change bag, sock or hat, have you one?

This one seems to be good: http://www.practical-magic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=574&category_id=10&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26



Santa Hat paper tear:

http://www.practical-magic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=408&category_id=10&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26


This one too: http://www.practical-magic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=92&category_id=10&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=26


I have Jozo Bozo change hat and can do something with that too.



Helder
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 26, 2010 02:14PM)
[quote]
On 2002-11-05 19:42, ruiefe wrote:
Frances Marshall has some very neat effects for Christmas in his set of books.[/quote]

It might be a bit late to comment on this post, because it was made 8 years ago.

However, I think it's important to note that Frances Marshall was a woman, not a man. I have many of her books.

- Donald

P.S. I do a Christmas-fun themed show for my customers. There are many effects to choose from.
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Oct 26, 2010 02:47PM)
I do mis made santa by P&A silks. It is a bit pricy, because Peter White's silks, and props are simply the best. Peter also sells Frankie the snow man, and if you already have his Santa trick you only have to buy 1/2 of the Frankie parts. The reason why this is such a deal is because Frankie plays well 12 months a year, so you get two tricks for the price of 1 1/2 tricks.

It is great that this 2002 thread has been revised, so I can read the words of Peter Marucci again.
Message: Posted by: Red Shadow (Oct 26, 2010 05:35PM)
I have a DVD of a Christmas themed show, with explanation of how I built the effects after the show.

Might be useful for you. Follow my signature.
Message: Posted by: Bob1Dog (Oct 26, 2010 05:47PM)
No one has mentioned using a dove pan to produce candy canes to give out...mix up some ingredients, flame it, produce the candy canes. Simple as that.
Message: Posted by: helder (Oct 27, 2010 12:18AM)
I order Off the Metter now. Seems very good for warm-up.




Helder Sousa
Message: Posted by: Potty the Pirate (Oct 27, 2010 01:49AM)
Fairchild Magic also makes "Run Rudolph Run", and don't forget Razzamatazz make "Santa's Surprise", which is basically "At the Zoo" with a Christmas Theme.
I have always offered a big Christmas show, and used to put a LOT of time into scripting,rehearsing and performing a new show every year (in fact, there are always 4 versions - infant, Keystage 1, Keystage 2, and family). However, I always found myself thoroughly exhausted by Christmas Day, and though I earned a good wage during the 3 weeks leading up to Christmas, I always felt it wasn't enough for all the effort I put in.
I finally analysed the figures, and realised that the smaller shows for daycares, etc, are not really very profitable. There is a BIG demand for Christmas shows from daycares and schools, but few can afford to pay the equivalent of private parties. These days I accept as many Birthday parties as I can in December, and try to secure bookings for larger schools with several hundred kids - these schools can afford £300- £500 for a show. Daycares and smaller schools usually have a budget more like £100 - £200.
I know there are some who just take ALL the work they can, and perform 40-plus shows in those 3 weeks - but I just don't want to do that! So, I normally limit myself to about 10 shows a week MAXIMUM. And once I have 20 shows booked between December 1st-24th, I will likely only accept bookings if they pay VERY well.
I'm surprised at the number of folks who posted above, who need more than a YEAR to create a new show. I start practising my Christmas Medley late September(the show finishes with a sing-along). There are HEAPS of jokes and gags, and most of the effects will just be standard variations on existing themes.
Writing my Christmas shows usually takes me a couple of days. Rehearsal takes about a week. I could put a new Christmas show together and have it ready for performance within 2 weeks, if I had to. When I was a pantomime actor, two weeks was all the time we had, from first seeing the script, to the first performance.
Potty :)
One snowman to another: "Can you smell carrots?"
Message: Posted by: helder (Oct 27, 2010 07:57AM)
Thanks Potty Pirate, what routines you do in this Christmas Shows?






Helder
Message: Posted by: harris (Oct 27, 2010 08:22AM)
Yesterday got a call from a mall. They want something to "introduce" Santa to the mall.

Could be a production from screen.
Card board box simple production...

as a puppeteer more than magician these days, I would sing him on...with Here Comes Santa Claus.

How would you "produce/bring out" Santa?
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 27, 2010 08:36AM)
Harris -

If you are into building illusions, or know someone who can do it for you, then you might consider buying a copy of Paul Osborne's Illusion Plan Book, "The Big Black Book."

Over the years, I have built 2 of the Christmas-themed illusions in that book, and performed them at malls and other Christmas parties. One is a giant chimney prop and the other is a large sleigh with a sack of toys on it. They are on wheels, and can be wheeled in from other parts of the mall at the right time.

- Donald

P.S. Creative Magic also sells a compact version of Bryce's Screens, which can be used for producing Santa. There are some limitations to that illusion compared to the others I've mentioned.

http://www.creativemagic.net/stage/bscreens.htm

You could also use the giant square square illusion that they sell. Again, some limitations.

http://www.creativemagic.net/stage/cubesquared.htm
Message: Posted by: harris (Oct 27, 2010 09:15AM)
Great sources.

Of course there's the old Grant's (?) cardboard illusion book, probably on the back of many of us oldtimer's shelves.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 27, 2010 09:31AM)
I can think of 2 illusions in the book you mention, "Victory Carton Illusions." Victory Girl Production (aka Victory Tube), and Doll House (aka Arabian Tent), are both for producing a person. They have extreme angle problems, so are best for proper stage work, where you have wings, curtains, etc. That sort of set up at a mall is very, very rare.

- Donald
Message: Posted by: Potty the Pirate (Oct 27, 2010 09:36AM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-27 09:22, Harris wrote:
Yesterday got a call from a mall. They want something to "introduce" Santa to the mall.

Could be a production from screen.
Card board box simple production...

as a puppeteer more than magician these days, I would sing him on...with Here Comes Santa Claus.

How would you "produce/bring out" Santa?
[/quote]
I like this, but I'd choose "Santa Stuck in the Chimney", and produce him from a Magic Chimney!
:)
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Oct 27, 2010 11:07AM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-27 09:22, Harris wrote:
Yesterday got a call from a mall. They want something to "introduce" Santa to the mall.
as a puppeteer more than magician these days, I would sing him on...with Here Comes Santa Claus.

How would you "produce/bring out" Santa?
[/quote]

My suggestion, given those skills as a puppeteer, would be to convert a Santa Claus doll into a puppet figure. This time Santa gets to sit on YOUR lap and tell you want he wants for Christmas... instead of being a doll, he want's to be the REAL Santa... and you make his dream come true by transforming him into the Mall Santa.

If you can't get the Mall Santa to cooperate by getting inside a chimney production box, you can at least make the Doll Santa vanish and "fly through the air" to the spot where the live Santa is ready to make his entrance.

One last idea, make the Mall Santa start out by speaking in the same voice you used with the Doll Santa. Then "he" asks "Can you give me my own voice? I still sound like a doll!" At that you grant his wish. You tell him to say "Ho, Ho, Ho!" three times. The first two times are still using the doll voice, and the last time, is with his real voice and after that he is on his own.
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Oct 27, 2010 11:18AM)
Although I have never produced Santa out of an illusion, I always wanted to try a box that looks like a wooden crate coming from the North Pole, just delivered to the Mall. When the crate is opened, the inner box looks like a giant present with a bow on top of it. It is tilted over and shown empty. The when placed back up right Santa pops out.

The illusion is the classic tip-over box inside of another box.
Message: Posted by: LMLipman (Oct 27, 2010 11:25AM)
Sammy Patrick Smith markets a version of Silly Billy's "Magic Party Picture" with a Santa theme. His website is http://www.spsmagic.com.

The Magic Party Picture is one I often use for 5- and 6-year-old birthday parties. It's a drawing of a table set with a birthday cake. With help from the kids, the picture magically is transformed to show colorful balloons and presents--a la "out to lunch."

The Magic Christmas Picture has Santa in his sleigh; when the magic is done, Santa is colored in and one of the reindeer has a red nose. Very easy to do, and of course you involve the kids in making the colors appear.

I don't have any interest in this, except that I do the Magic Party Picture and bought a set of the Christmas pictures when Sammy was as IBM Ring 50's MagiWhirl this year. I hope to get some mileage out of them.
Message: Posted by: Sal Amangka (Oct 27, 2010 11:54AM)
Mine would be "Boy to Santa"... It's the same principle as the Rabbit Wand.

Sal
Message: Posted by: helder (Oct 27, 2010 02:57PM)
How about miser's dream?





Helder
Message: Posted by: JimbosMagic (Oct 27, 2010 09:27PM)
Dennis, don't forget my new Rudoph Trick.
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Oct 28, 2010 04:31AM)
Miser's dream is always a good routine to do, because money is a wonderful gift.

Jimbo... This thread was review from way back. On the previous page, I posted a list. Look at the dated: Nov 6, 2002. I don't think we knew each other back then. :)

So for the Record, [b]Jimbo's Rudoph Trick[/b], that I just saw at KIDabra this year, is another good one.
Message: Posted by: mysticalmike (Oct 29, 2010 07:26PM)
Where can you find this new trick by Jimbo.
Message: Posted by: Potty the Pirate (Oct 24, 2011 12:15PM)
I thought it was time to revive this old thread again, and to add the latest new effects for Christmas shows:
Tommy James' comedy Christmas Magic Wand
Tommy James' Santa,Skunk and the Magic Chimney
Has anyone mentioned "Big Red Nose" yet? This one's excellent, a real worker. It's not new, but I don't think it's been mentioned yet in this thread.
I believe Razamatazz also have a Christmas version of their puppet wand available.
Any more?
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Oct 26, 2011 03:28PM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-27 10:31, Donald Dunphy wrote:
I can think of 2 illusions in the book you mention, "Victory Carton Illusions." Victory Girl Production (aka Victory Tube), and Doll House (aka Arabian Tent), are both for producing a person. They have extreme angle problems, so are best for proper stage work, where you have wings, curtains, etc. That sort of set up at a mall is very, very rare.

- Donald
[/quote]
It can't be done surrounded, but I used to use an alternative setup for The Arabian Tent, when I was in high school. The angles were so good that the backstage crew didn't know how I did it. It also helps to perform it slightly upstage.
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Oct 27, 2011 09:54AM)
Some Magic Nook contributions are Wilhelmina's "New Santa Blocks", a DIY "Christmas Lights from Mouth" and Chris Dunn's "Holiday Die Box", all from The Wizards' Journal #19; "Talking Greeting (Christmas) Cards" and "The 12 Days of Christmas" from The Wizards' Journal #17; and many of the effects found in Wizards' Journals #7 and #15, including some illusions made from converted inflatable lawn decorations.

Wiz Kid Qua-Fiki didn't get enough mileage out of his "Mismade Jack" and "Floating Pumpkin" routine for Halloween (Wizards' Journal #21), so he is doing a "Mismade Frosty" and a "Floating Frosty" to extend his Halloween show into Christmas and beyond that into Winter. It just means dying some new silks ( I can only guess that I'll be stuck with that job again!) and redecorating all his Halloween props to fit his Frosty Winter theme and the same show, using the same skills, is good to go.
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 27, 2011 11:58AM)
I know Spellbinder likes to make his own, but for those who don't, P&A Silks and Wonder Imagery both offer versions of a Mismade Snowman silk set.

(You might not be able to purchase the P&A Silks set from Cynthia directly at this time, because of Peter's recent passing. However, the silks might be at other dealers.)

- Donald
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Oct 28, 2011 12:55AM)
If it was just a matter of making two or three Mismade Frosty silks (plain snowman - mismade snowman - finished snowman) I'd probably just buy a set ready-made, but Qua-Fiki has big ideas of expanding on his "Mismade Jack" design which was actually a Blendo variation where you take the different silks and shake them together and they morph or blend into the new form. I made the mistake of showing him the Greer Marechal "Master Silk Routine" from "Magic For the Millions" and he's decided that he wants to do away with the bag concept completely for his Frosty silks. So the first plain color silks will morph into a snowman (minus one of the silks that has dropped to the floor), then a second morph into the mismade snowman, and a final morph into the great big finished snowman. Each of the morph results will be larger than the last, so 17 inch silks will transform into a 24 inch silk, then a 30 inch silk and end with a 44 inch silk (sizes determined by what I can get from Dharma Trading Co.). The moral of the story is keep young magicians away from all books or they will get big ideas.
Message: Posted by: Quentin (Oct 28, 2011 03:04AM)
Supreme Magic sold a great Christmas trick, Mis-Made Santa. A giant Chrstmas card is shown with a picture of a black and white Santa inside. Santa is to be painted but ends up in the wrong colours, eventually all is put right.

Goodliffe publications published a book by Amalfi called Santa's Workshop, entirely devoted to Christmas Magic. Out of print but contact second hand dealers in the UK

The Bert Easley book has another book included with it by Eric P Wilson which has a routine called The Snowman and Father Christmas.

And there's the Silk to Santa's Hat available here http://www.seomagic-usa.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/62/products_id/601
Message: Posted by: jimhlou (Oct 28, 2011 07:31AM)
"Presents of Mind" - this is the old Deja Vue animal trick using Christmas symbols. It involves 6 or 8 jumbo cards with Santa, Christmas tree, snowman, etc - so most of the Christmas symbols are displayed. It's showy, simple to do (you don't need to wait until next year to do it), and very baffling. Two thumbs up.

Jim