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Topic: Stand up tricks
Message: Posted by: mightyred75 (Nov 15, 2005 02:04AM)
I have been invited to a Sportsman Dinner and I am looking for some good coin tricks that I can do standing up. I would still class myself as a beginner and for the last few months just been practicing the usual palms and sleights. Can anyone help me????
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Nov 15, 2005 03:26AM)
You should definatly take a look at Dan Watkins "Coin Man Walking" DVD, which is soley for walk around coin magic, althought the sleights could be a bit difficult for a biginner.
Check out Dan's home page Coinvanish, a must for every true coinman http://www.coinvanish.com/
Message: Posted by: TexasMagicman (Nov 15, 2005 09:25AM)
Can't beat scotch and soda and the hopping halves to get you going.
Message: Posted by: Nathan Alexander (Nov 15, 2005 10:06AM)
If you know (and are comfortable with) some good sleights then think through how to string together a routine with the repeated (not over so) vanish and reappearance of a coin(s).

The thing that is most important however is how you present the routine(s) you do. Take it slow. It is funny how one magician can do a coin vanish and make it a 'puzzle' to the spectators, while another (God bless Mike Skinner) can truly cause astonishment with something so simple as a basic vanish.

I promise you, it you think, and I mean really think through what you want to have happen in the spectators' minds first, then work backwards to accomplish the effects using what you already know, you'll then create some strong magic.

Don't rush moves. So again, check out what you already know. Then of course, I also suggest hopping halves (very magical). If you do have a lot of time before the event, there is plenty of boooks for you to check out.

Good luck!
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Nov 15, 2005 11:46AM)
IF you were a bigginer and have practiced, say the guitar, for three months would you even CONSIDER performing in public?
Message: Posted by: DomKabala (Nov 15, 2005 01:18PM)
On 2005-11-15 12:46, Pete Biro wrote:
IF you were a bigginer and have practiced, say the guitar, for three months would you even CONSIDER performing in public?
[/quote] It may hurt, but it makes a lot of sense what Pete asked. Why the hurry? Three months experience is not enough time to perform a coin routine no matter what gaffed coins you have or DVDs and books that you study. Take your time and practice first. Listen to Pete...there's a lot of experience talking there.

Message: Posted by: Justin N. Miller (Nov 15, 2005 01:21PM)
I agree whole-heartedly!
Justin Miller
Message: Posted by: Jim Salabim (Nov 15, 2005 02:34PM)
Agree. Daily, I have been practicing the same coins across (Mr Cleans) for 5 months now. Still haven't showed anyone. And that's because I'm not handeling it perfectly yet.

It takes a lot of practice to become a good coinworker.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Nov 15, 2005 02:38PM)
You can make up for practice and skill with simple stuff IF YOU ARE A SOLID, CONFIDENT AND POWERFULL ENTERTAINING PERFORMER.
Message: Posted by: Cory Gallupe (Nov 15, 2005 06:45PM)
I CANT perform sitting down. It is soo uncomfortable for me. When I perform, 99.9 % of the time I stand up. the other tiny percent is if I have to lap something or produce something from my lap.
Message: Posted by: Rob Elliott (Nov 16, 2005 02:44PM)
I think you guys are reading too much into mightyred's original post. I don't get the impression that he's planning to perform for the crowd -- he just wants to be able to do some tricks for people at a party. He doesn't need months of practice to rub a nickel into his elbow or to do Hopping Halves. The best experience comes from doing.

Mightyred, I would recommend that you keep it simple. And enjoy!
Message: Posted by: Backdoor (Nov 16, 2005 02:49PM)
I agree with Rob. The guy doesn't seem to be going on stage or nothing. Just walking around showing a few coin tricks. Should be alright, and there's a lot to learn to not doing just perfect. Gotta start somewhere, why not here...there's a lot to learn...might as well start learning, the good and the bad. Like Rob said, enjoy yourself.
Message: Posted by: Cory Gallupe (Nov 16, 2005 04:50PM)
Scotch and Soda is good if you use it with the right patter.
Message: Posted by: mightyred75 (Nov 17, 2005 06:24AM)
Rob Elliot and backdoor are right. It's not that I have been hired to perform I just want a few simple tricks that I can show a couple of mates. I showed my mates a couple of card tricks about three years ago at the Sportsman evening and every year they ask me to do a trick. Thanks for all your input though.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Nov 17, 2005 10:55AM)
On 2005-11-15 03:04, mightyred75 wrote:
I have been invited to a Sportsman Dinner and I am looking for some good coin tricks that I can do standing up. ...[/quote]

Have a look at Al Schneider's "Matrix", Goshman's "Sun and Moon" or Steve Dusheck's Copper Silver transposition. Those are workable items which don't require great or fancy sleight of hand, which play well and can be repeated.
Message: Posted by: Rik Chew (Nov 17, 2005 11:02AM)
Buckingham, Geoffrey
Message: Posted by: triXter9669 (Nov 17, 2005 11:34AM)
Im just curious as to how many hours a day everyone practices a routine or even a sleight. I know some people are quick learners then others, but how could you say that 3 months is not enough time to practice for even a gaffed set? don't get me wrong, its still great advice, I guess I just devote lots of time a day when I practice something.

That is an honest question though. Say you are reading through Bobo's and you come across an effect. How long/many hours a day would you take to practice that?
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Nov 17, 2005 11:48AM)
Gregory wilson's 99 cent trick.
2 in the hand one in the pocket.
Message: Posted by: Rob Elliott (Nov 17, 2005 11:56AM)

As TexasMagicman suggested above, Hopping Halves is an entertaining and puzzling routine that's easy to perform. If you want to go non-gaffed, check the Quick Tricks chapter in Bobo.
Message: Posted by: TexasMagicman (Nov 17, 2005 12:10PM)
Ok..here is my 2 cents worth. it seems to me that a lot of people in this forum are rather quick to jump on the "practice till it looks good..and then practice some more" wagon. I understand this thinking because nobody wants to be made a fool and a lot of guys don't practice thier sliegths or gaffs near enough...and so we pound this mentality into anyone who will hear us. However, let me just say this...75% of the time the slieght or moves is NOT the problem. What I'm saying is, it's not the moves that are necessarily the problem, it having the b*lls to pull it off in front of others, and you can't get that standing in front of the mirrior. I'm not saying don't practice...practice till you puke..then practice some more.. but you reach a point where you gotta go for it. there has to be a happy medium here.
Message: Posted by: triXter9669 (Nov 17, 2005 12:16PM)
Texas, you put it in words better then I have. I agree 110%.