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Topic: Comedy colour change silks (Davenport's) dye tube
Message: Posted by: jezza (Nov 21, 2005 08:49AM)
I have bought this effect and pretty much got most of it perfected but I find the bit where you apparantley tell audience how it's done very difficult. This is the part where you load 2 silks into tube (pretty similair to a thumb tip vanish) but getting the dye tube on middle finger is pretty difficult as it just doesn't work ?slides straight off finger if you know what I mean?
any help appreciated on using dye tubes
Jezza
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Nov 21, 2005 08:53AM)
I would look at Billy McComb's half dyed hank routine. Billy pretends to explain and does the dirty work at the same time. He ends up a step ahead of the audience.

Richard
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Nov 21, 2005 10:33PM)
Richard,
Where do we get this? I asked in little darlings too.

Jim
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Nov 22, 2005 06:41AM)
McComb's Magic (25 years wiser) IMS has a tape of the routine as does Joe Stevens.

Richard
Message: Posted by: creesman (Nov 22, 2005 06:43AM)
It is available from Viking Magic.
Message: Posted by: eb02 (Nov 22, 2005 07:16AM)
This is one of my favorite silk effects. I do it in all my shows, for children and adults as well. I do it in two parts – first I change white silk to black silk, and “explain” how I do it… then I use the black and the white silks and change them to Zebra silk…
I am not familiar with the Davenport's effect, but according to your explanation it looks similar. Mine is a combination of two DT and El Duco’s zebra silk. PM if you have any question.
Eran
Message: Posted by: jezza (Nov 22, 2005 09:48AM)
It's more technique with the dye tubes that I want advice on. I find it hard to steal the tube with 2 silks in it as won't fit properly on middle finger and just feels awkward? Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Message: Posted by: eb02 (Nov 23, 2005 06:55AM)
Dear Jezz
It’s deepened on the Dye Tube you are using. For one silk I am using round shape and it is very easy to steal with the finger, it’s like a ball. For two silk I have a 24” DT, and you need to steal it with the finger and the palm.
It’s also a matter of practicing.
Eran
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Nov 23, 2005 03:59PM)
Jezza,
I have a dye tube that has a edge that is curled inward at the end. It makes it very easy to steal because your finger can snag that curled end. I have another dye tube that has just straight ends and you finger could slip off the end during the steal because it doesn't have that curl. Look and see if you can find one that has the curled end on it.

Jim
Message: Posted by: jezza (Nov 24, 2005 05:07PM)
Thanks I will look for alternative tubes ,
I like the color changing silk routines as you don't see them getting performed too much
Message: Posted by: Julie (Nov 24, 2005 06:02PM)
Look for an Al Baker dye tube. This has the "lip" mentioned earlier. :)
Message: Posted by: jezza (Dec 4, 2005 04:07PM)
I peformed this table hopping last night for the first time about 7 times and it got really good reactions. It's great --- a fun effect to do and I love the fact they still think the silk is still in the hand. The only bit I feel I could improve on is the steal when there are 2 silks inside as it doesn't feel right (maybe I'm just over analytical). But any tips or other routines out there would be helpful.

Thanks,
Jeremy
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Dec 7, 2005 01:26PM)
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On 2005-11-21 09:49, jezza wrote:
I have bought this effect and pretty much got most of it perfected but I find the bit where you apparently tell the audience how it's done is very difficult. This is the part where you load 2 silks into tube (pretty similair to a thumb tip vanish) but getting the dye tube on middle finger is pretty difficult as it just doesn't work/slide straight off finger, if you know what I mean? Any help appreciated on using dye tubes.
Jezza
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Sounds like you have the straight sided dye tube. With this tube you do not use the finger but actually grab it with the index and thumb. If you have the curved end dye tube you can steal with the 2nd finger.

I never liked the straight sided dye tube, as it always gives the little tell tail of you doing somehthing. This handling is explained on the Pat Page Stage Magic Video.

Usually, the hand dye tubes do not take 2 silks, I think you are doing something wrong. To cause the 'goof', the exposed silk is stuffed between the hand and dye tube, not in the dye tube.
Message: Posted by: jezza (Dec 7, 2005 01:44PM)
The audience has not noticed the steal(unless being polite) and I also think the guard is down as I am apparently telling how the effect is done. Are there any good videos or dvds on dye tubes.

Thanks!