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Topic: Blind Folded Motorcycle Show
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 3, 2006 05:46PM)
Hi All I am considering making a street show using my motorcycle and and a few blind folds. The whole show would be this. Any thougts........
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Mar 3, 2006 05:56PM)
Hmm, would you consider this a "magic show" or would it be better defined as something else?
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 3, 2006 10:10PM)
Hmmm honestly not sure..........
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Mar 4, 2006 04:19AM)
Banachek used to do a driving a car blindfolded thing. He called it mentalism.

Peter
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 4, 2006 08:25AM)
Regardless of the type of entertainment. will it work on the streets?
Message: Posted by: Chance (Mar 4, 2006 10:16AM)
Well, since you asked so directly... No, I don't think it would work out too well. Many reasons come to mind, most of them structural in nature. Too many liabilities to assume. Unicycles sometimes have it tough, so I can't imagine a motorcycle having it easy. What you're suggesting is much better suited for race tracks and fair grounds.

Chance
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Mar 4, 2006 12:36PM)
And you are not allowed to go everywhere with a motorcycle.
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 4, 2006 08:02PM)
I have only one pitch I work and Have been granted permission to perform this stunt. I have been thinking more and more about what another poster said. "They call it mentalism" That intrigued me a little more. Does anyone do Mentalsim on the streets? Some things that come to mind that may play well would be Silverware bending, Book tests, etc. Does anyone perform Mentalism as a Street Show?
Message: Posted by: Chance (Mar 5, 2006 04:15AM)
So which is it then? A stunt/thrill show, or a mentalism format?

What/where is this pitch you are referring to exactly, and how did you first get the idea of the stunt show to begin with?

What busking experience to you have, and name the pitches you have regular experience working.

You're fighting a loosing battle by going about it this way. It seems to me by your letters so far, that you either have very little street experience already, or your are in some kind of slump and trying too hard to climb out. As I read your messages and I get the mental impression of a struggling drowning victim.

Chance
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Mar 5, 2006 07:57AM)
Blindfold Motor Cycle ride is a nice publicity stunt, it is a great “Free” show for a oval track raceway (pitch it to the owners as a show for the crowd between heats – I do escapes between heats at a local raceway), or even circus act (I’ve never seen it done in a circus but why not! It could actually be the hook to get you employed!)?

Let me say that, except for a cross town run publicity stunt, your “motorcycle and a few blindfolds” won’t be enough. You will need a few other props such as cones to weave in and out of, barriers to stop short of (how about a wall of swords, if you don’t stop in the right place you’re impaled! Way cool, I may just work on that!), maybe a limbo type of cross bar that you have to duck under or lose your head, etc. All of this adds some visual interest for the audience (and is called showmanship).

A street act could work given a wide enough area, some interesting props, and a helper to work the crowd. The noise factor and the space requirements will dramatically limit the areas that you will be able to work. Beach venue that sponsors bike runs, bike and auto shows would be a nice local to hit.

Honestly, it would be cheaper and easier to buy 100 feet of rope or chain, and do a one-trick pitch (100 foot rope/chain escape) and make money than the blindfold bike thing. However, if you did build the act, you’d be the only one doing it.

Again, like Chance, I don’t know your “hook” for the act, your motivation, or even your skill level. Just asking if you make a street act out of some blindfolds and a motorcycle and no other information gives you the honest and accurate answer of Yes, NO, Maybe (all are equally correct). So now you are back where you started with a flimsy idea that needs a ton of fleshing out before any further answer could be provided.

I say go for it!
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 5, 2006 11:01AM)
Chance and Harry, First let me say I do have street expierence. However I am not a fulltime street performer. I perform once a week down at Pier 60 in clearwater, FL. And I have a new pitch in downtown St. Pete at a farmers market. Before I even decided on this type of show I asked the questions to the right people to make sure I had their ok to perform this. I am not a drowning victim as chance you put so elloquently (Sorry bad at spelling). I am merely wanting to improve and do differnt tricks on the streets. After starting this post I think the best way to approach this would be a mentalism show. When first posted I really didn't think of the type of show it should be. Now after you guys asking me the questions I think this will be the best format to go with. Harry Yes I too don't believe that just the blind folds and the drive will work. I think doing some silverware bending to help attract the crowd, Do some stanard mentalism like mind reading, mabey some comedy mentalism, (Like the "NO" Bit) And talk up my finale as the motorcycle stunt. A way I came up with to control the crowd walking in my path is using the rope that I use to desiginate my performance area. I have them line up holding the rope in 2 straight lines with me in the bike in the middle. Then the big finale would be riding down the line wihtout falling or running anyone over. I like your idea harry about adding something at the end of the line that I may run into or the limbo bar are good ideas and I will elaborate on them further. Thanks for your postive attitude harry. Chance thanks for your adivce also. Has anyone heard of a mentalist working the streets?
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Mar 5, 2006 12:34PM)
Brandonford,
I'm glad you stuck with us and filled in some of the details of your experience, other pieces, etc...

You have to admit, you really didn't give us much to go on with your first post, and I wasn't going to be the one who encouraged some 14 year old with a dirt bike to go kill himself in public.

Good luck, and listen to these guys. Some of them actually know what they're talking about ;)

David
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 5, 2006 12:46PM)
Yeah Sorry for that. I post regularly in The Grand Illusions section. So I assume most know me but I venture into another area and no one seems to know me lol ;) No worries though. Im 24 and been performing porfessionally for about 6 years. been inot magic since I was six and have learned from the best. I know Gazzo(he sold me the rights to his underwater bucket escape), I competed against Cellini and his wife, Have Annual TV appearences on local TV Programs, ETC. Sorry for all the confusion. PS Harry I bought your Tom Horn Transport belt a few months back. I actually DO perform a 100ft rope escpae and Recently added the belt into the act with 100ft rope at the same time. It semms to work well. NOW again has anyone seen mentalism on the streets ;). I have not seen this but I am curious if anyone else has. Thanks again.
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Mar 5, 2006 04:57PM)
Will you use a table?
Mario
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 5, 2006 05:03PM)
No Table everything I do Will be carried in my saddle bags. All tricks, gags, will all be standing tricks requiring only the use of hands. I will have a speaker mounted on the back of the bike that can be removed as needed. I thinks its really neat I will be able to drive up to my pitch and step off the bike and start my show. I am also thinking about using the bike's engine in teh begining to help gather a bigger crowd. Example "people who are already here I will rev my engine when I do I want you to scream and yell as loud as you can and don't stop unitl I do" Or mabey uise that part right before the bllind fold drive. I also am thinking about getting 2 small banners that can be attached to the bike giving people my name, website info etc.... Show times.....
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Mar 6, 2006 04:28AM)
The table was my silly joke...

To say it as it is, I think this could be a great crowd puller but dam it you’re not going to be able to work many streets with it. I no for sure there is know where in the UK you could work a show like this on the street's and not get shut down.
On the other hand as Harry pointed out this could be a great act for a center ring at events and festivals.
I don’t buy into the mentalisam thing I think a pure stunt is the way to go.
This is a big show so I suggest not to cloud it up with smaller tricks.
Setting up the pitch should get you a crowd alone cones and what ever.

A volunteer is always a good thing so how about you put the blind fold on them first they confirm they cant see through now it your turn. If you use an amp they could even give directions from the side "left, left, left, no right and so on.
Mario
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 6, 2006 08:12AM)
Hey I like that Idea of them giving me direction....As far as other pitches. I have been bugged by other performers on pier 60 to go to Mallory Square in Key west. Ive never gone (mainly scared that I wont measure up to the others) I like the idea of using mentalism but I also like the idea of making it a stunt show. I will work on both and I may try both and see which works better. The reason I would want to do the smaller tricks would be mainly for helping build a bigger crowd before my "show starts". That way the late comers will feel as though they have not missed the show yet. But mabey using a child in a stunt using the blind fold may work. I saw a bit where a child was blindfolded and ask to jump a rope that 2 others were holding. They mess up the first try but when they try again the performer takes the rope away and the kid jups thinking he is doing well infact there is no rope there at all.
Message: Posted by: Steve V (Mar 6, 2006 10:47AM)
Do your stump show. Just make sure you have a quarter acre to work with, sounds like a reasonable thing to me. Good luck.
Steve V
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 12, 2006 11:10AM)
I just had an idea that struck me for this. This would make it magic related. Turn the in to The World's Most Dangerous/Outrageous Card Trick. I would have to find the selected card after I weave thru all of the course. Like mabey using a card sword and at the end of the course the card go flying and I impale their card. Or somehting along those lines. What do you think about this? Does anyone have a better way to find the card instead of using a card sword. This would have to something gimmicked as I will be on a bike with a ahood on. I don't want to have to concentrate on sleghts while on the bike...... Hope to hear some ideas.....
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 12, 2006 01:03PM)
OOHH another idea is to have a unicycle, or bicycle as a backup incase the motorcycle is not allowed.
Message: Posted by: DoctorCognos (Mar 14, 2006 01:25PM)
Don't know what your silverware bending act is like, but if you are looking for a very "impromptu" act on a disc, take a look at Morgan Strebler liquid metal. It is upbeat, in your face, has a beginning and an end, (unlike a lot of metal bending) the spec gets a souvenier, and you have your crowd warmed up.

I used to do some busking, and still may again as the opportunity presents itself. But I mostly do a nightclub mentalism act, and use some of Morgan's work as part of a warm up, or for after show crowds.

The Doctor
Message: Posted by: Steve V (Mar 14, 2006 03:16PM)
Morgans DVD is very good and it is one of the only bending 'routines' that I've seen. I'm not sure but it may only be available from Penguins magic. Speaking of Penguin I want to tip my hat to them for some of the changes they have recently made in their approach to business. They have made a change in leadership and philosophy that is supportive of the art and the community.
Steve V
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 15, 2006 09:09AM)
I perform his routine. His is a lot liek banachecks but better. But that is the routine I perfomr. Thanks for the advice.
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Jun 27, 2006 05:34PM)
I wanted to let you all know that I worked it down to a Go Ped. I tried a unicycle and DAM those things are a *&^%#@ to learn how to ride. However the motor Gives enough noise yet is small enough to fit in car because it folds up, and I can reduce my stage size due to the size of of the go ped. this is a device that you stand up on and you can drive it..... Anyways I was hoping we could brain storm some ideas to help finish off this act. I have yet to perform it. I am honestly stuck on the "it" factor. Why am I doing this. Whats the big pay off at the end. I was thinking a card trick and at the end of the course I have to find thier card....... Any help would be greatly appreciated..... Brandon
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jun 27, 2006 07:51PM)
Did you see the latest Criss Angel show? He incorporated a "card catch" with a motorcycle ride by.

So, now you're on your Go Ped, blindfolded, and as you ride past the crowd your volunteer throws the cards into the air as you ride through them grabbing the previously selected card. No need for the sword unless you really want to. The palmed card would be hidden by your hand on the throttle until the last moment. Sounds like a good way to end a show to me!
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Jun 29, 2006 08:42PM)
As a matter of Fact I did and I was so ****#$ that he did it before me! lol I had come up with the idea to do it palmed not 2 days before I saw the episode...I may work on it further ....... I really don't want to be known as copying anyone...... Any other input?
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Jul 2, 2006 08:40PM)
http://www.thetrickery.com/?nd=full&key=5064

Go to the link above... I think this may just be my ending to this trick.

PS came up with the idea to have the Limbo bar be set on fire in the middle of it..... Give the illusion more "Danger"......
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Jul 3, 2006 02:40PM)
Man I wish you had not put that link in your last post. I made the mistake of clicking on it and I now own one of the effects. Oh well, Hope I can work it into my show.

Peter
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Jul 3, 2006 09:04PM)
LOL Yeah don't you hate when that happens!
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Jul 16, 2006 05:33PM)
Ok well anyone paying attention to this post, I have come along since this post was first started. Can't believe its been almost 6 months! The goped seems to be the best choice, The limbo bar that will be set on fire has been changed to a chain with KEVLAR Wicking in the middle. That Idea came from "the Fire Guy" from Canada Brant Michaels. The baloon gimmick listed above wont really work after several tests because of the size and how fast I will be going. After more consideration I have decided that a card catch as Dave mention earlier seems to be the best option. So that is what I will use. I will also have 2 volunteers stand a short distance apart facing each other, and then have them raise their arms in the air and touch hands forming a human archway. There will be a few of these and they are what I must drive through. This accomplishes two things. First More helpers may mean more tips, second it means I wont have to carry cones and other accesories so I can travel lightly. OK well that is all for now. If anyone has any questions please feel free to contact me ore if oyu have tips do the same. TTYL
Message: Posted by: jacoblucas (Sep 21, 2006 12:39PM)
Hi All I am considering making a street show using my motorcycle and and a few blind folds. The whole show would be this. Any thougts........


Hi friend my best friend K. Baba' s sister magician Panna doing blindfold motor cycle driving for Bajaj Auto Ltd India since last 1993 she completed more then 1700 mile driving in various shows so you contact them for more info
Message: Posted by: styck13 (Jul 24, 2008 03:39PM)
Brandonford1982
I know this is an old thread but I need some info as well. Brandon, I sent you a PM. Gimme a Holler sometime so we can talk about this.

Greg Owens
(dad of devon)