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Topic: Tricks using Si Stebbins/Others
Message: Posted by: JPL (Mar 30, 2006 01:34PM)
I'm looking for references to tricks using Si Stebbins or any rotational stack (not a memorized deck). What is your favorite trick and why?


JPL
Message: Posted by: NeoMagic (Mar 30, 2006 01:46PM)
[url=http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=3038&forum=2]Favorite Si Stebbins Effect[/url]
Message: Posted by: MaxwellGrant (Mar 30, 2006 02:04PM)
"The Uncanny Scott" by Ron Wilson

Get the book, in there is a miracle using the 8 king set up in a very different way.
Message: Posted by: dannyhaze (Mar 30, 2006 11:26PM)
Richard Osterlind describes the method to his own arranged deck entitled "breakthrough card system" in many of his videos and books. His material involving this arrangment is worth a look.
Message: Posted by: late night diner (Mar 30, 2006 11:36PM)
There's a Lie Detector effect using a Si-Stebbin stack that I use quite frequently. I'm unsure of the creator
Message: Posted by: e-man (Mar 30, 2006 11:48PM)
The Lie Detctor effect is VERY good Too,Resets instantly Repeatable
And easy.
Message: Posted by: Karl Miller (Mar 31, 2006 12:03AM)
Is that the Lie Detector from the Trost book? If it is, it's very good. The Ron Wilson routine is quite clever and worth looking in to. Steven Youell has some very nice stuff in his WMD notes. Be sure to take a look at the Si Stebbins section of The Encyclopedia of Card Tricks, too.

-Karl
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Mar 31, 2006 01:06AM)
You're right Karl. Youell has some good ideas.
Also, check out Michael Close's Closely Guarded Secrets. It's geared toward
a mem deck, which a si stebbins can be, but the effect "the luckiest card in las vegas" is a nice one with a great presentation.
Message: Posted by: ekozuch (Apr 21, 2007 09:41AM)
Any other?
Message: Posted by: Nick Pudar (Apr 21, 2007 01:32PM)
I believe the strongest effect with a Si Stebbins deck is "The Encore Card Stab" by Al Koran. You can find it in his book: "Al Koran's Professional Presentations" edited by Hugh Miller. It was originally published in 1968 by Harry Stanley in England. I believe it has been re-published and is still available.

Nick
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Apr 21, 2007 01:47PM)
Out of Body by Larry Becker is an powerful effects with a cyclic stack like Si Stebbins. This is a top notch routine with a powerful result.
Message: Posted by: Vandy Grift (Apr 25, 2007 04:23PM)
I think we discussed this somewhere else, but you can do a very simple poker deal from Si Stebbins. Cut a deuce to the bottom and deal four hands of poker. Each hand will be a straight flush of higher and higher value, with the dealer getting the royal. It's a good trick to break up the stack as well.
Message: Posted by: Doctor REvil (Jun 6, 2007 10:41AM)
The Evolving Dream by Stewart James............spelling any thought of card via Si-Stebbins......
Message: Posted by: LLL (Jun 28, 2007 06:47AM)
I use si stebbins for a card to pocket routine that is chan canasta inspired. It basically involves the spectator cutting the deck behind their back untill there happy then placing the top 2 cards, 1 in each back pocket without looking, the cards are then bought out face up, (so to disprove any marking on the deck, but in reality providing you with the key card) and cards are named. all you have to do is notice which card goes in which pocket first.
Message: Posted by: Jon_Thompson (Jun 29, 2007 06:17AM)
I love to false shuffle the deck, ask for the name of a card and tell people how many cards it is down from the top. I also use it in a tarot routine whereby I tell the spectator that a psychic shouldn't need to see the cards taken, but should instead pick up on them, which I then proceed to do, adding the usual meaning for the spectator's life as I go.

I wanted to see what other things you could stack (Rhine cards, alphabet and number cards, whatever) so I analysed a succession of numbers of cards up to about 100. It turns out that multiples of some primes will fit. The minor arcana doesn't fit for a duty cycle of 3, unfortunately.
Message: Posted by: monte1 (Jul 15, 2007 06:47PM)
I have Osterlind s Double Down on dvd ...he explains it but for the life of me I cant figure out the process >>> I have watched and rewatched ...there has got to be something I am doing wrong.I understand every thing up until he makes card selections from both people ...and they are the same card .!?
Message: Posted by: Jeff (Jul 29, 2007 09:30PM)
Gene Anderson has a manuscript available that uses Si Stebbins, it's an entire performance piece.
Also in 21at Century Card Magic by Jim Swain there's the effect called "The Explosion"

In my ebook "The King has Left the Building..." I have and effect called "A Guarded Revelation" that uses Si Stebbins or any other cyclical stack and a card guard.


Jeff Pierce
Message: Posted by: van (Jul 31, 2007 05:58PM)
Semi-Automatic Card Tricks V1 page 143 Killocation
Semi-Automatic Card Tricks V2 page 46 Sly Stebbins
Semi-Automatic Card Tricks V3 page 110 The Bilton Diary
140 Stebbin Out
181 Face Off
204 Bite Me
206 Strike Three
208 Underhand Location
Semi-Automatic Card Tricks V4 page 152 Speed Reader II
154 Dealer's Choice
168 Bullet- Ridden
Semi-Automatic Card Tricks V5 page 155 The Deck Will Tell
160 Bait & Switch
179 Con-Sense
Semi-Automatic Card Tricks V6 page 199 Si Senor
201 Si Fry
216 Fish Stew
224 Si's Secret
Semi-Automatic Card Tricks V7 page 163 Si Kick

Van
Message: Posted by: Hayre (Aug 17, 2007 10:35AM)
Encore Card Stab...I've been doing it for 35 years. Great trick... but skip the butter knife idea (the edge is right, the blade finish is right, but it just doesn't capture the audience's imagination)....I've use a small meat cleaver, and a ton of other blades. One of the best knives I found was a sporting store demo hunting knife, with a shiny blade, and a factory dulled edge....which was just right.

This trick is now problematic for airline travel, if you normally carry-on your magic.

Last word.....no matter how well you estimate, or how confident you are as a performer, remember...unless you have nerves of steel, even a micromillimeter of shake in your hands will make this tricky to do correctly.
Message: Posted by: MagicRocks (Nov 9, 2009 06:51PM)
I am just wondering. Will you use the Si Stebbins setup for a simple trick to make the selection as fair as possible ? Is it worth stacking the whole deck to know one card to make the selection fair and allow the spectator to insert the card and shuffle? what's your opinion ?
Message: Posted by: Mathias Kersting (Nov 9, 2009 07:30PM)
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On 2009-11-09 19:51, MagicRocks wrote:
I am just wondering. Will you use the Si Stebbins setup for a simple trick to make the selection as fair as possible ? Is it worth stacking the whole deck to know one card to make the selection fair and allow the spectator to insert the card and shuffle? what's your opinion ?
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For me it would depend whether or not it would make the effect itself that much stronger.
Message: Posted by: MagicRocks (Nov 9, 2009 08:24PM)
Can you give some examples of tricks that you will choose to use that stack ?
Message: Posted by: magicdano (May 7, 2012 01:05AM)
The last post here was about 3 years ago. I wonder if anybody has put out a book or DVD exclusively on Si Stebbins Tricks?
Message: Posted by: BenGGie (May 8, 2012 09:15PM)
Theres a bunch of effects using si stebbings throughout Darwin Ortiz works
Message: Posted by: velcrowe (May 9, 2012 10:08PM)
CAANDY by Chris Mayhew is pretty darn cool.
Message: Posted by: JanForster (May 10, 2012 02:09AM)
Steve Beam, Nick Trost have published a lot... Jan
Message: Posted by: Joe Kispokis (May 16, 2012 03:06PM)
Harmonic Convergence by Cameron Francis (which is a bonus effect that comes with the Annihilation Deck) is a wonderful effect using the Si Stebbins principle. The nice thing about this effect is that you can repeat it again and again with the same group of people and they will never catch on.
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (May 28, 2012 02:58PM)
Let's not forget one of the old sources, before magicians forget where some of the effects come from. Encyclopedia Of Card Tricks, edited by Jean Hugard, has a chapter on prearranged packs, as well as a chapter on the Nikola system.
Message: Posted by: ursmagicbalu (May 26, 2020 12:05PM)
Can a card estimation can be done??
If yes, how pleaase??