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Topic: Video Request: Flying Carpet
Message: Posted by: Kent Wong (Apr 12, 2006 01:22PM)
I've had the Princess Flying Carpet for some time now, but I can't really get excited about it. I thought that might change if someone could point me towards a good performance clip that showcases the effect. Thanks in advance.

Kent
Message: Posted by: Ben Pratt (Apr 18, 2006 05:42AM)
http://www.daytonamagic.com/Demos/DEMO047.htm#SULTAN'S%20FLYING%20CARPET

There ya go man. It's not a very good video, but it's something I guess.
Message: Posted by: jimgerrish (Apr 18, 2006 08:58AM)
Try to avoid the little bounce of the carpet at the end. She should get off as carefully as she got on and he could help by holding the carpet still at that crucial moment. Also, a hula hoop can be used with the illusion to show no strings, etc.

Another move is to pick the "book" up and read an appropriate passage from Arabian Nights from it while holding the book. The performer's body blocks the view. I had a bit that I "read" from the book about a golden apple, and then I produced the "golden apple" from the book to hand to my assistant. Then I produced a six foot silk (tie-dyed multi colored) while talking about the rainbow in the clouds. I pulled the six foot silk over her from the back and then kept on pulling it away to show that she had vanished at the end. That takes a stage, though and is not something you can do at a birthday party.
Message: Posted by: Kent Wong (Apr 18, 2006 09:41AM)
That video was PAINFUL to watch! As the video clip loaded, the text indicated that the magician and assistant performing this effect use it regularly in their show. With that build up, I was expecting a lot more polished style, confidence and showmanship. Is this as good as the illusion can be, or am I expecting too much?

Kent
Message: Posted by: Chezaday (Apr 18, 2006 09:58AM)
You're kidding right?? Let's get excited about the Flying Carpet .. come on.

Sell it at the next magic flea market and buy something useful .. like a pizza.

Good luck ..

Steve
Message: Posted by: Johnnie Blaze (Apr 18, 2006 10:05AM)
I agree 100% with Steve on this one but then again don't take my word for it , as I just watched the video and I am now surely stupider for it
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Apr 18, 2006 04:08PM)
I do not believe that I just watched that impressive video!
Message: Posted by: Kent Wong (Apr 18, 2006 04:16PM)
Mmmm ... Pizza :)

Kent
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Apr 18, 2006 06:54PM)
I have a great presentation for the carpet. It gets spontaneus applause most of the time. "It's a poor artist who blames his brushes"--Dai Vernon.
Message: Posted by: Chris Stolz (Apr 18, 2006 10:39PM)
I think that the Flying Carpet is a GREAT first illusion. Why? Because not only does it pack flat and transport easily, but it doesn't really DO anything. Because it is not an animated effect that works by itself, it forces the performer to really make something of their presentation.

Ben I would just stick with it and smooth out any wrinkles. It's not a bad presentation by any means, it just needs a little something extra. Perhaps some direction from a good high school theatre teacher?

Constructive criticism? I like the idea of lying under the carpet, but enjoy that moment a little longer. Find a way to get in and out of it as smoothly as possible and take the time to let the audience read the fact that she truly is floating just inches above your head. When you pull those swords out, trying taking them out as if you have no idea what may happen. Will she fall?

Make every moment count and you'll be doing great!
Message: Posted by: leapinglizards (Apr 19, 2006 04:19AM)
I don't think that was Ben. It was the demo video from the Daytona Magic web site. Same kid you see demo a lot of their stuff on the site.
Message: Posted by: Face (Apr 19, 2006 05:25AM)
After watching this video, getting miself a Pizza sounds really good idea :)
Message: Posted by: Ben Pratt (Apr 19, 2006 12:44PM)
Yeah heh. that definitely wasn't me.
Message: Posted by: Magic Patrick (Apr 22, 2006 10:12PM)
Every time I buy an inferior or poorly made magic trick, I expose it to everyone I meet. This would be one I would expose.
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Apr 23, 2006 01:16AM)
Jack Gwynne did alright with it. It's the magician, not the prop. Some present it well and some don't. I've lost track of how many times I've seen the classics of magic butchered.
Message: Posted by: Magic Patrick (Apr 23, 2006 01:40AM)
Alan,

Is that why David Copperfield uses cardboard boxes for his shows? So you are saying that Dominik's origami is the same as Jim Steinmeyer's? I think that the props are very important. This one seems inferior to me for the price.
Message: Posted by: NFox (Apr 23, 2006 01:51AM)
BYUDAD, I think you are talking about the opposite of what Alan was getting and that is: you could give the worst magician in the world the best props and he would still only be that. The experience and the level of the performer is what allows [b]quality[/b] props to be effective.

Nick Fox
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Apr 23, 2006 09:55AM)
NFox,

That's exactly my point. Sure, the carpet in the video is a cheaply made one. It's best to use the best one obtainable.
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Apr 24, 2006 02:33AM)
I made my own.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Apr 24, 2006 07:24AM)
Actually, Alan, the Sultan's Flying Carpet that Daytona Magic sells and makes is one of the best I've seen that is not custom made. It is far superior to the Mak Magic version. Materials are better and the workmanship is very good.

The video presentation on Daytona's site doesn't do the illusion any justice. The folding panel is left too open when removed and draws attention to itself. Just performing the illusion straight, as done in the demo, won't get much of a response. There has to be a real presentation.

Michael
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Apr 24, 2006 08:18AM)
Hey Michael,

Does the Daytona magic version also rotate?

johnny
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Apr 24, 2006 08:32AM)
Johnny,

No, it does not rotate. The value of rotation has been debated on this forum before. Some feel it's a plus. Others say it's a detraction.

I'm sure you could find a way to add the lazy susan to the Daytona version if you wanted to. (I haven't really looked into that.)

Strike that. I just took a look at mine and I think it would be rather complicated to add the lazy susan to it. I think it would take quite a bit to add it without replacing the seat itself.

Michael
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Apr 27, 2006 07:14PM)
Put the lazy susan up on top of the carpet and have the girl sit Yoga style with her arms streched out wide, then give her a spin. Have her bring her arms in close to her body to speed up the spin. When she stops, hand her a barf bag and close the front curtain fast.
Message: Posted by: Michael Taggert (Apr 27, 2006 09:54PM)
Im on the side of the performer makes the Illuion. Ive used one many times. I started with a mak wore it out and had one built. I brought in a friend that took a long hard look at the routine from adirectors point of view and wow! it works! if your on a small stage you cant beat it for flexability and places you can perform it. My other suspensions cannot be done in a small room.
Mike Taggert
Message: Posted by: Face (Apr 29, 2006 02:45PM)
Now this prop is not well made...if you want to have the best (THE ULTIMATE SECRET HOW TO GET THE BEST COMES NEXT :)) you allways have to make youre own.