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Topic: The Shape of Astonishment
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Apr 16, 2006 10:56AM)
I picked this out of AOA volume 3 the other day. I was a little sceptacle at first, thinking it was more of a throw away, but the reactions and responses I've been getting have completely changed my mind. I now think of this as quite the little gem. Anyone else doing this? If you have the book (or the video) I recommend giving it a try.
Message: Posted by: rannie (Apr 16, 2006 11:02AM)
I use to do this a lot. Thanks for posting this. This is indeed a gem.
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Apr 16, 2006 11:41PM)
...and you can add "Buck Naked" to the list of his more recent gems (from either volume 1, or the AOA video). Rannie, have you seen/done this one?
Message: Posted by: Jeff (Apr 17, 2006 10:31AM)
Magicguy, this is one of my favorite effects for table hopping.

Jeff Pierce
Message: Posted by: rannie (Apr 17, 2006 11:34AM)
I can't seem to remember that one. I'll go check.
Thanks man!
Message: Posted by: DermontWsup (Apr 22, 2006 01:44AM)
Where can I get the video? I am trying to get a good tricks for table hopping situation. please tell me if you have a good recommendation. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Apr 22, 2006 05:06AM)
I thought this was brilliant. Trouble for me was, soft Morgans don't make much of an impression. It's better with their money, I think.
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Apr 22, 2006 07:06AM)
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On 2006-04-22 02:44, DermontWsup wrote:
Where can I get the video?
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You should really get the books. Bigger investment, but much more bang for the buck. So much great material.

Anyway... try this:
http://www.dennymagic.com/cgi-bin/hazel.cgi?client=34131669&action=detail&item=001636

Curtis,
I agree with you. It's a great one for working with a borrowed coin (I have much better luck with a quarter).
Message: Posted by: Rik Chew (Apr 22, 2006 11:12AM)
What's the effect of this trick?
Message: Posted by: DoomPenguin (Apr 22, 2006 05:35PM)
You burrow a quarter, and create a heads up rubbing of it onto a piece of aluminum foil. The quarter is dropped out of the foil tails up, and the rubbing changes into tails up as well.
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Apr 22, 2006 05:46PM)
Does anyone know--does this work at all with a chewing gum foil? Maybe a particular brand? I'm trying to get this to look a little more "organic".
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Apr 22, 2006 09:38PM)
Great idea, Curtis! I'm going to have to try this. From what I remember (I'm not much of a gum chewer) Wrigly's foil wraps are thin enough where they might work.
Message: Posted by: Rik Chew (Apr 23, 2006 04:48AM)
I'm not sure about chewing gum wrapper, here at least the foil is different to kitchen foil,it is quite thin and as one side is paper, I'm not sure you'd get a good enough rubbing. Maybe a pencil rubbing on some paper might work?
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Apr 23, 2006 05:47AM)
Yes, pencil rubbing on paper would make for an interesting effect. It would also require a different method, and would most probably not be completely impromptu. However, "Shape of Astonishment" done with a pencil rubbing would be a very cool companion piece to that David Roth routine where you stamp impressions of coin on a pad, then cause them to move around and become real.

I wish I could say I just thought of that, but it's an idea Kainoa and I kicked around back when AOA came out.
Message: Posted by: Rik Chew (Apr 23, 2006 06:51AM)
I think penccil rubbings could be a good motivation for a lot of coin effects. One I read and, hopefully improved!, was to use a pencil rubbing as a start to Holy-Moly with coins; a spectator takes a rubbing of the coin with a pencil, give the coin to the spectator, using the eraser on the end of the pencil rub out a little hole of the rubbing which transfers to the coin.
You could do this on a business card, or a piece of flash paper, or perhaps on a small bit of paper, which you fold up, SP for a copy without the hole rubbed out, give a magic wave and the hole has transferred.
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Apr 23, 2006 04:14PM)
Interesting. You could also do the rubbing onto a cigarette paper (extra wide) giving an odd link to the Leipzig effect.
Message: Posted by: mystre71 (Apr 23, 2006 04:23PM)
I use to do the pencil rubbing on flash paper for "Fire Trap". The effect where the signed coin ended up inside the layers of a match pack. Rubbing the outline of the coin on the flash paper made it look as if the coin was still in the paper long after it was gone .I believe this was in the instructions for the effect?
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Apr 28, 2006 11:35PM)
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On 2006-04-22 18:46, Curtis Kam wrote:
Does anyone know--does this work at all with a chewing gum foil? Maybe a particular brand? I'm trying to get this to look a little more "organic".
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So... I actually tried this with the wrapper from Wrigley's Juicy Fruit gum. It's not quite as clear of a rubbing as it is on plain foil, and you absolutely must use an eagle back quarter, but it really does work. This was a great idea, Curtis. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Apr 29, 2006 02:42AM)
Thanks for doing the R&D. This is sounding better and better.
Message: Posted by: RevJohn (Apr 29, 2006 12:31PM)
This is one of those effects that I haven't bothered with. Now... I will have to give a once over! Thanks for bringing this to light.

RevJohn
Message: Posted by: niva (Apr 30, 2006 01:26AM)
Curtis why not go with a Cadbury or other chocolate instead of chewing gum?
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (Apr 30, 2006 05:42AM)
Sure, why not? I've seen some mighty fine foil on those designer chocolates. Of course, I'd have to get into the habit of carrying fancy chocolate around with me. Not so easy here in the tropics, but it might work for others. Good idea!
Message: Posted by: joseph (Apr 30, 2006 06:11AM)
How about the chocolate coins that are in foil? I can see a whole routine here....Take chocolate coin out of foil wrapper, change into quarter, and "print" quarter image on candy foil..... :) ..
Message: Posted by: niva (Apr 30, 2006 06:15AM)
Then we could also go into Paul Harris' other trick Chocolate Coin. This one is soo cool!
Message: Posted by: Rik Chew (Apr 30, 2006 06:30AM)
I need to get this book...
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Apr 30, 2006 09:41AM)
Niva, Joseph,
Good ideas! Hard to believe that what started as a simple post of praise has turned into such a productive brainstorming session. This is what I love most about the Café. Thanks everyone!
Message: Posted by: Jeff (Apr 30, 2006 12:08PM)
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On 2006-04-22 18:46, Curtis Kam wrote:
Does anyone know--does this work at all with a chewing gum foil? Maybe a particular brand? I'm trying to get this to look a little more "organic".
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Curtis, it's been my experience that the thicker or more heavy duty the foil is, the better the impression it will retain.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: niva (Apr 30, 2006 01:29PM)
I understand why Curtis is looking for gum paper. It's more common to corry a chewing gum with you than a chocolate. Unless you are a chocaholic like me. :)
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 30, 2006 07:28PM)
Aaron Fisher actually published an effect based on this principle.

A borrowed dime vanishes and is produced from the pocket. It then morphs into a stick of gum.

I'll look it up and see if he mentions what brand works best.

All the best,

Kranzo
Message: Posted by: Nathan Kranzo (Apr 30, 2006 07:28PM)
Aaron Fisher actually published an effect based on this principle.

A borrowed dime vanishes and is produced from the pocket. It then morphs into a stick of gum.

I'll look it up and see if he mentions what brand works best.

All the best,

Kranzo
Message: Posted by: Danny Diamond (May 17, 2006 11:19AM)
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On 2006-04-30 06:42, Curtis Kam wrote:
Sure, why not? I've seen some mighty fine foil on those designer chocolates. Of course, I'd have to get into the habit of carrying fancy chocolate around with me. Not so easy here in the tropics, but it might work for others. Good idea!
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There is another effect from AOA III, called Hot Chocolate: You bring out a flat, folded Hershey wrapper out of your wallet and inflate it into the real thing. Sounds like a perfect way to introduce the foil from the chocolate bar!
Message: Posted by: Curtis Kam (May 17, 2006 02:54PM)
Yes, and then Paul's "Chocolate Coin" routine in which you show the spectator that the quarter from his pocket is actually a chocolate coin. Hmmm, Do I sense a theme running through here?
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (May 17, 2006 03:38PM)
Perfect! This is working itself into a terrific routine. Great ideas, all around.