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Topic: Dye Tube flat or with ridge
Message: Posted by: drhackenbush (May 8, 2006 10:00PM)
With the many styles of dye tubes, I was wondering if anyone could tell me the difference between the smooth flat style like a pipe and the ones with a raised ridge in the center of the outside? I plan to use it in a rolled up paper tube, and wasn't sure if the ridged one would snag on the paper during the load or if either style works well for that... I haven't bought mine yet, and wanted to see if there is any reason to buy one over the other. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (May 9, 2006 12:50PM)
The rolled ridge (Rice's Simplex) makes it easier to steal out the tube with the finger and keeps the silks from popping out prematruetly in a barehanded dying routine.

I would suggest that you get Rice's sliding dye tube and the booklet "Thru the dye tube" . This type will work best with a paper. The booklet will give you a lot of information on using this type of tube.

Richard
Message: Posted by: kregg (May 9, 2006 02:19PM)
If you have a flat tube, you can wrap a ribber band around it to serve a like purpose.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (May 9, 2006 04:19PM)
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On 2006-05-08 23:00, folksingmagic wrote:
With the many styles of dye tubes, I was wondering if anyone could tell me the difference between the smooth flat style like a pipe and the ones with a raised ridge in the center of the outside? I plan to use it in a rolled up paper tube, and wasn't sure if the ridged one would snag on the paper during the load or if either style works well for that... I haven't bought mine yet, and wanted to see if there is any reason to buy one over the other. Thanks!
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The dye tube you are refering to is a hand dye tube. For your routine using a rolled paper the plunger type is the one to use. See Rice Magic for the correct dye tube.

The rolled edge is for a hand dieing of silks, it permits the gimmick to be stolen with one finger, whereas the straight tube requires a 2 finger grasp to steal the gimmick.
Message: Posted by: drhackenbush (May 10, 2006 03:00PM)
Thanks for all the advice, and I'm going to try out the several types you've suggested as I go along. I just got a Morrissey Hand Model with tape (what my local shop had) and at first try it seemed to do exactly what I wanted, loaded well and could be ditched easily.
Message: Posted by: Julie (May 11, 2006 10:48AM)
The kind with a "lip" at the opening enhances Al Baker's handling...
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (May 11, 2006 01:46PM)
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On 2006-05-10 16:00, folksingmagic wrote:
Thanks for all the advice, and I'm going to try out the several types you've suggested as I go along. I just got a Morrissey Hand Model with tape (what my local shop had) and at first try it seemed to do exactly what I wanted, loaded well and could be ditched easily.
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Morrissey sells both types, turned in lip and straight, which did you get?
Message: Posted by: drhackenbush (May 11, 2006 05:18PM)
I got what seems to be the straight-lipped one. Been spending a bit of time loading and reloading it with my 18" silks and they fit just right (one silk capacity). There's an occasional catching first silk in the tape, but I think from the very small amount frequency of that it's just a matter of loading the silk correctly in the first place, and I've only ever used a dye tube for around 24 hours in my life now, so it bears practicing with to get it all smooth anyway. It's about 2.5" long with a diameter of 1".
Message: Posted by: drhackenbush (May 11, 2006 06:07PM)
Also just ordered the 3-volume set of Rice's Encyclopedia of Silk Magic plus the newer 4th volume afer getting to leaf through a copy of I think Vol. 2 - looks like it might be as fun for me as Tarbell... so many ideas!
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (May 11, 2006 09:53PM)
I would invest in a Rice Palmo, simplex dye tube and all three sizes of the Baker sliding dye tube from Ruth Rice while you can still get them.

I picked one of each of the larger dye tubes and 3 each of the Palmos and Simplexes. That should last my lifetime.

Richard
Message: Posted by: drhackenbush (May 11, 2006 10:25PM)
Yes, that'd be a good idea - having only worked with the one so far, I know I'll have much more versatility with a few different tubes that also have multiple-silk capacity and/or diferrent uses. Boy, I can't believe I've gone decades without a dye tube - I got my self-contained color-changing-silk years ago and always laughed at the idea of a dye tube. Shows what I knew :) Having just one has already opened up a new world of possibilities for me.