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Topic: Homemade Mouth Coils and Throw Streamers
Message: Posted by: gerard1973 (Jun 7, 2006 10:45AM)
Does anyone know how to make your own homemade Mouth Coils and Throw Streamers or is there a book somewhere that explains how to do this. Mouth Coils are plastic coated and Throw Streamers are made out of lightweight tissue paper. They shouldn't be too difficult to make yourself. Thank you.
Message: Posted by: Spanky (Jun 7, 2006 02:23PM)
Why would you want to? They aren't that expensive
Message: Posted by: rtgreen (Jun 7, 2006 02:32PM)
Actually, they are pretty easy to make and way less expensive than the pre-made ones. Besides, you can choose the colors and sizes to meet your needs.

A lot of people have asked me about how to make these and here is my answer:

Visit http://www.magicnook.com/papermagic/tearablecontents.htm and order the PDF file there. It's only $3 and tells you everything you need to know.

I'm not associated with this site at all, but it is where I learned to make mouth coils and the $3 has been paid back many many times over.

Thanks,
Richard
Message: Posted by: gerard1973 (Jun 7, 2006 02:44PM)
Spanky:

Yes, Mouth Coils and Throw Streamers are cheap. I wanted to make my own set for the reasons that rtgreen mentioned. I wanted Mouth Coils and Throw Streamers in custom colors and sizes. Thanks everyone.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Jun 7, 2006 10:33PM)
Do a search on the Café, as I remember someone explained how to make the mouth coils here.

Streamers are much more difficult to make as you need very long tissue paper and be able to wind it tightly. Then cut the roll in widths, very hard to do at home.
Message: Posted by: Marvello (Jun 8, 2006 05:45PM)
It's easy to make mouth coils, and it is no big trade secret. Just get a yardstick, and some tissue paper and a glue stick. Tightly wrap the tissue around the stick. Start with white tissue since that will be the first color out of the coil, and also end with white since that will be the outer wrapping - you can use any color tissue you want for the "inner" pieces. When you get to then end of the tissue use some glue stick to join it together with another sheet, and then continue rolling the next sheet around the yardstick and keep on repeating until you get a good size coil - 7 -10 sheets is good. Just remember to keep it tight when rolling around the yardstick. Then tightly glue the last sheet to itself and carefully remove the yardstick by sliding it out gently. Then cut the tissue log you created in to 2 inch strips and then cut each 2 inch section half way through - do not complete the cut - so you will end up with a 2 inch section that has a cut half way through it at 1 inch. Then simply grab each half and fold the ends together and then put tape around the coil to hold the 2 halves together, and you will have a bunch of 1 inch mouth coils for a fraction of the price. You can get yard sticks for free at Ace hardware, and you can get tissue paper at most dollar stores.

If you want to do seasonally themed mouth coils you could use red white and green for christmas, orange and black for halloween, etc.. I have even seen tissue paper that has dollar bills printed on it, and have made some fun novelty mouth coils that look like shredded money. I have also used zebra striped and polka dotted mouth coils, and they all look fun and a lot more interesting that "store bought" mouth coils.
Message: Posted by: Bryan Gilles (Jun 8, 2006 09:17PM)
I've found if you wrap the tissue paper around a broom stick or wooden dowel, it works a little better than a flat surface wrap...

Bryan
Message: Posted by: Marvello (Jun 8, 2006 10:06PM)
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On 2006-06-08 22:17, Bryan Gilles wrote:
I've found if you wrap the tissue paper around a broom stick or wooden dowel, it works a little better than a flat surface wrap...

Bryan
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cool- I will give it a try. Rather than a yarstick, I actually use a piece of wood that is about 1/2 the width than a regular yardstick - I think it is a slat from a window blind, though I am not sure.
Message: Posted by: Bridgewater (Jun 11, 2006 08:47PM)
Gotta disagree with Bryan Gilles regarding the use of a round stick versus a flat yard stick. Paper rolled around a round stick will want to unroll, making the whole process a lot more tedious. I've also found that a round stick is more difficult to remove once the process is finished.
I don't use a glue stick. I join each new sheet with clear tape. It's instant. There is no chance of bleed-over as there is with any kind of glue. And functionally, the coils work just great.
For cutting the roll into individual coils I use the "Handycutter" from Sears. It's an anvil-type cutter with a thin razor-sharp blade.
I can make a dozen coils with materials that total about $1.25.
Message: Posted by: wally (Jun 26, 2006 09:05AM)
Which paper is the best for making mouth coils. pm me. thanks
Message: Posted by: Marvello (Jun 26, 2006 12:28PM)
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On 2006-06-26 10:05, wally wrote:
Which paper is the best for making mouth coils.
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Tissue paper
Message: Posted by: freefallillusion1 (Jun 26, 2006 06:59PM)
Well, as for my experience on this: I needed very long mouth coils in solid orange, and had no choice but to make them. I first tried the wood dowel method. I discovered, as many here did, that I couldn't get the paper off the stick when finished, so I came up with a very simple yet effective solution: Staighten out a coat hanger and lay it alongside your dowel. Wrap the paper as normal, and when you're finished, slide the piece of wire out first (it will come out easily) and you'll find that this loosens the whole thing sufficiently that the paper roll will now slide right off the stick. Also, I too use clear plastic tape instead of glue. I cut the individual coils with a band saw using a fine blade. Good luck!
Message: Posted by: wally (Jan 8, 2007 08:56AM)
Still can not find the right tool for cutting homemade mouth coils here in UK.
Message: Posted by: wonderbott (Jan 8, 2007 09:26AM)
I have for years taken large rolls of paper, rewound them to size and length needed, and then sawed them with a band saw to make my own hat coils.
Message: Posted by: DerekMerdinyan (Jan 8, 2007 02:07PM)
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On 2006-06-07 23:33, wmhegbli wrote:
Do a search on the Café, as I remember someone explained how to make the mouth coils here.
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That would be me...

Send me a PM

Derek Merdinyan
Message: Posted by: wally (Jan 13, 2007 01:34PM)
Sears Craftsman 3-7/8 in. Handi-Cut is what I need to cut mouth coils , but they will not ship to England, please please help. any Canadian magician to help. will pay well .
Message: Posted by: Jeff Jenson (Jan 15, 2007 10:04AM)
I would take the advise on throw streamers from Derek Merdinyan I got the idea from him and it works great.

Best,
Jeff
Message: Posted by: flourish dude (Jan 16, 2007 11:22AM)
You can also use a bandsaw to cut them. I cut 3 or 4 rolls at a time. The other reason to learn how to make a coil is if you run out and need one ASAP you can build your own. You become self reliant. If you on the road and loose your stuff then you can run up to the store, buy some paper and make one.
Message: Posted by: Random_Hajile (Apr 10, 2007 08:52AM)
Love this community! All of the magic I need to buy here in China is over-priced (western prices on a Chinese salary isn't great). This information alone is going to save me a fortune considering the amount of mouth coils I seem to get through entertaining kids at our school, and being able to make custom colours will just add much more variety to the shows I do. Thanks a million, guys!
Message: Posted by: kaytracy (Apr 10, 2007 09:28AM)
Wally, on cutting the coils, for MOUTH coils, I simply use a sharp razor knife (also called a utility knife, or click knife) One could also use a Linoleum cutter knife, or even a very sharp paring knife from the kitchen- use the cutting board, and be sure to re-sharpen when you are done! Paper really dulls sharps edges.
Unless you are cutting some behemoth coils (or hat coils) you should be okay, just take your time, and cut carefully. AND it is okay if the coil mushes a bit flat while you cut it, it will get turned and shaped before you are all done anyway!
k
Message: Posted by: Random_Hajile (Apr 19, 2007 04:50AM)
Just found a video with information on making mouth coils and snow storms. If you can get it, it's IMS Course Of Magic Volume 39: Paper Magic with Tony Hassini. There's a couple of effects on there and how to make mouth coils is near the middle of it. :)
Message: Posted by: Random_Hajile (Apr 21, 2007 10:29PM)
Just a question. I used a flat yard stick for my first mouth coils and it turned into a bit of a disaster. Each sheet of tissue paper was about 1m long and I used 8 colours. When I'd finished one coil, I had the problem that it wouldn't fit in my mouth... It was huge. I think I used too much paper... What is the optimum length for a mouth coil? When I used store-bought mouth coils, I has no problem with a 10m coil fitting nicely into my mouth, where did I go wrong? Some advice would be great. I also had a little bit of a hard time keeping the tissue paper tight on the stick and keeping the roll straight. Help would be greatly appreciated.
Message: Posted by: cougar261084 (Apr 23, 2007 01:15PM)
Are tissues the same as paper napkins?

I'm from belgium and I find that sometimes my knowledge of the english languages is not sufficient enough yet.
Message: Posted by: Random_Hajile (Apr 24, 2007 10:54PM)
Tissue paper is sometimes referred to as wrapping tissue. It comes in sheets about 1m x 1m (or there abouts... Sometimes you can get longer). I usually get mine from a craft shop where they sell all sorts of card, paper, pens, pencils, paints, Xacto knives, scissors, etc... Paper napkins (I imagine) are too fragile and will soak up the saliva in your mouth pretty quick (It's how I first started with mouth coils... by changing a torn paper napkin into it... and my mouth was drier than the Sahara in a drought... that was just with one napkin). I don't know if that helps you or not, but if it did, then enjoy making them!
Message: Posted by: kaytracy (Apr 25, 2007 09:47AM)
Tissue paper is also the type used in boxes for flowers being sent to someone (if that helps) it is a bit shiny on the surface.

The roll of paper has to be pretty tight. I usually wind about 6 sheets when I make mine. I use a round wooden pencil for the core, and some furniture polish wax to make the paper slip off when I am done winding it.
I tend to wind mine in 4 inch sections, as keeping a full sheet width tight on a dowl by hand is very hard. I can actually turn the pencil to wind most of the paper on rather tight.
I use a plain white tissue at the end, about 2 inch strip to give me a white outside, as sometimes the colors will transfer when wet.
I find that I have to use a smaller size coil when I use the boughten ones as otherwise I set off my own gag reflex.Besides, the handling of un-winding a coil allows perfect cover to place an additional one and start it as well if you need more color and stuff!
k
Message: Posted by: Random_Hajile (Apr 27, 2007 01:24PM)
Thanks for the tips! I know what you mean about the gag reflex... my first attempts at making a mouth coil ended up with me desperately trying to get it out of my mouth and fighting for air after the whole "I-made-it-so-it-WILL-go-in" argument I had with myself. I suppose I'll just have to use two coils and steal one during the first unwind. But once again, thanks for the advice, I'll certainly try it out!
Message: Posted by: Sal Amangka (Apr 27, 2007 09:35PM)
I make my own mouth coils and it's very easy to make once you get used to it. The material I use it called "Japanese Paper"... well, that what we call it in the Philippines. I use 11 strips and each strip is 2 inches in width and 27 inches in length. The outer part is covered with a glossy white board (here it's called cartolina) this is to protect the Japanese paper from getting wet once you put it inside you mouth.

Hope this helps!

Sal
Message: Posted by: Random_Hajile (Apr 29, 2007 11:37PM)
I'm having still haviong trouble (sorry about this). After I've cut the mouth coils, I'm having serious problems pulling out the middle to get it started. Sometimes it tears until it reaches the next colour. Am I wrapping them too tightly or do you think it's a problem with the size of the stick I'm wrapping them around? I've used a yard stick and a pencil so far and both have caused trouble. Perhaps I'm not cutting them enough or cutting them too far...? Did anyone else have this trouble when you started making them? If so, how did you manage to solve it? Thanks in advance!
Message: Posted by: Scott O. (May 7, 2007 10:56AM)
Try winding the first color a little bit looser.
Message: Posted by: wally (Jun 18, 2007 01:02PM)
Still cant cut the coils. I have a very sharp pair of scissors.
Message: Posted by: kaytracy (Jun 18, 2007 11:51PM)
I do not use scissors, as the throat does not let you get close enough to make the cut without making a mess, or taking the safety of your fingers into play! I take my coil once it is OFF of the dowel, and mash it a bit so it is slightly flat on the table. I make the half cuts first, as it is easier to control the blade on the large roll, then I cut the sections for the coils all the way through. I use a matt knife, sometimes called a box or craft knife, with the angled (replaceable)blade that has a nice easy to grip handle. Paper is notoriously hard on cutting edges, and so either change your blade often, or have a hone ready to hand when the knife blade starts to drag a bit. Push the point to the center of the coil from the top, and press through to the cutting board, then draw the blade outwards to the edge. after cutting them off, I revers the mash, and fold them back against themself.
Hope this is a helpful explanation, if not let me know I will try to take some pictures of making these.
Kay
Message: Posted by: Bagatelli (Nov 23, 2009 02:17AM)
Jozo Bozo shows on his DVD how he makes his Mouthcoils
Message: Posted by: wally (Dec 4, 2009 09:28AM)
Contact spellbinder here in the Café.
Message: Posted by: wally (Nov 23, 2017 09:17AM)
Does anyone here make there own mouth coils, I have made mine for the last 20yrs, Now I am looking for something like a small table top band saw to cut the paper, please contact me if your using one, I have always used the secateurs. magicwalsh@gmail.com
Message: Posted by: Dan Ford (Nov 23, 2017 07:25PM)
I use a a plastic pipe cutter that I bought in one of the large hardware stores (Lowes, Menards or Home Depot) They are under $30 They come in about 2 sizes and I have one of each.