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Topic: Shadow boxes
Message: Posted by: Silver_Fang (Jun 12, 2006 09:07PM)
I just wanted to kow homw many different shadow boxs you have seen. since this trick seems to be a classic illusion I would like to know the different styles such as mi****s and T****
Message: Posted by: Bryan Gilles (Jun 13, 2006 03:13AM)
The shadow box is one of those illusions that the only thing to hold you back from building one, is your imagination! Just about anything you can picture, you can make into a shadow box...
Message: Posted by: magicmarkdaniel (Jun 13, 2006 05:25AM)
I built one but used a BA principle. Its very effective and you don't have the worry of the m*****s getting dirty or broken. Still the same effect. Also a much smaller base and box.
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jun 13, 2006 10:33AM)
I built one using the original basic idea, as shown in Tarbell. Same thing Henning used. I was lucky enough to find some frames made of square steel tubing, and started with that as a foundation. I used white fabric for all panels except the front, which was butcher paper. It was the only panel that was torn during performance.

~michael
Message: Posted by: Silver_Fang (Jun 13, 2006 12:49PM)
Can you please give me a link or a source onto where to get Tarbell books.
I was thinking about makeing a shadow box that is a triangular shape that is perched ontop of a rectangular box that is open toward the audianc using m*****s in the box to hide where I am.
Message: Posted by: MagicErik (Jun 13, 2006 02:33PM)
The power of a shadowbox is that is does not need m*****s!!!!!!!!! :))
DO NOT use m*****s in a shadowbox, use those for another illusion that you can't do without but pleeeeaaaasssseee not in a shadowbox. :))
Message: Posted by: Silver_Fang (Jun 14, 2006 02:16PM)
It was going to be used in the shadow box. It was going to be used like a rabbit box, so I can become virtually "invisible". I really can not do anything else because I can't afford a base to use in this illusion. All though I have had some ideas of using a modern cabinet type of way.
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jun 14, 2006 03:18PM)
Call a GOOD magic shop. Ask them what volume of Tarbell contains the illusion you are looking for. BUY THE BOOK!!!

You do not need m######, nor do you need an illusion base (in the typical sense of the term). You DO need to broaden your magical knowledge.
Message: Posted by: BAN (Jun 14, 2006 05:53PM)
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On 2006-06-14 16:18, Michael Baker wrote:
Call a GOOD magic shop. Ask them what volume of Tarbell contains the illusion you are looking for. BUY THE BOOK!!!

You do not need m######, nor do you need an illusion base (in the typical sense of the term). You DO need to broaden your magical knowledge.
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you don't even need a base! Is that for one new version or for them all? No m###### either! Hmmm.. I'm stumped. I need to go get Tarbell's :D
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jun 14, 2006 09:57PM)
It is for the oldest, simplest, and one of the most effective versions. It will cost you a fraction of what most of the others do. I did see a B/A version that may be cheaper to construct, but I still think the original is cleaner.

I first saw Doug Henning do it, and it killed me. It is much older than that, though.
Message: Posted by: Silver_Fang (Jun 15, 2006 02:54PM)
I thought about combinding andrew maynes spectre cabinet and a modern cabinet. that way I can appear on stage throught the shadow world. then bring my assistance in threw the means of an old version of things that go bump in the nite. then vanish back into the shadow realm and appear under the third "thing" I think I 'll go with this method. but I still need some good illusion books such as tarbell.
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jun 15, 2006 11:27PM)
Nothing wrong with your idea. If you are happy with it, go for it! :)
Message: Posted by: bry1513 (Jun 30, 2006 03:26PM)
I think what Ban is trying to say is for a shadow box, you normally don't use mirrors, B/A, or a base. ALl you need is a edge or lip around the shadow box. If you are thinking otherwise, then you probably don't know how a shadow box truely works and need to do some more resaerch........


Take care,

Bryan
Message: Posted by: dlcmagic (Jun 30, 2006 06:07PM)
The Illusion is called "The Girl From The Light" By David Bamberg (Fu Manchu)
It's in Tarbell #4 Page #413. The Tarbell course is a great set to own !!
David
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Jun 30, 2006 11:52PM)
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On 2006-06-30 19:07, dlcmagic wrote:
The Illusion is called "The Girl From The Light" By David Bamberg (Fu Manchu)
It's in Tarbell #4 Page #413. The Tarbell course is a great set to own !!
David
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Thanks David! I don't have the book on hand anymore, so I could not recall which volume it was in.

~michael
Message: Posted by: David Garrity (Jul 2, 2006 09:22AM)
I believe that "Girl from the Light" also has blueprints in the Byron Wels book, "Great Illusions of Magic."

-David
Message: Posted by: Lusion (Jul 20, 2006 11:52PM)
And as stated before it only limited to your imagination...Copperfield uses one built by Bill Smith to open his shows to this very day! He appears on a motorcycle
Message: Posted by: Silver_Fang (Jul 22, 2006 07:16PM)
I under stand the workings of the illusion but I would like to be able to show the illusion surrounded I don't realy know that many magicians who could do a shadow box surrounded without the using stooges.
Message: Posted by: MagicErik (Jul 23, 2006 06:00AM)
When you use mirrors it is NOTTTTTT a Shadowbox!!! :)
Please be careful with what you do.
When you want to perform an appearance surrounded you better look for something else.
Like Crystal Box or Blammo Box... Tip Over Trunks also cannot be performed surrounded.... Perhaps you could pm me with what you want to make appear.. I am very proud of my plans-collection and I must have something just right for you...
EVI
Message: Posted by: Sandwichical (Jul 24, 2006 10:50AM)
I built Andrew Mayne's Specter Cabinet a couple of months ago. It's cheep and simple to make, just one of the PVC pieces is rather difficult to find. I spray painted the pipes metallic silver, and I had plans of running wires all along the prop and attach LEDs, but ran out of time(this would also subtract from it's ability to come apart and pack small, or at least make it more difficult).
-Sandwich
Message: Posted by: Lusion (Jul 31, 2006 12:10AM)
You can still build one that can be done surrounded, I sat down and tinkered with that idea and it is possible! This is the creative part that I love about performing and now since I just expanded my shop I am building so many illusions I will have to get a bigger warehouse when they are done!
Message: Posted by: Silver_Fang (Jul 31, 2006 08:35AM)
You just gave me an idea. I from one of the posts they talked about a product known as glow wire. it can be found on theatrefx's website and many others if you search google. it is very portable and is very bright.
Message: Posted by: ggarcia (Sep 6, 2006 10:04PM)
Lusion - I am wanting to build a shadow box that I also want to show from all sides. I was thinking about uses a base. you mention that it can be done without a base. would you mind sharing your idea? This would be my first illusion. I have a shadow box illusion plan, and I am wanting to get the woodbury video # 1 on bases. I will take any help in the best way to do this. thanks...