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Topic: Jay Sankey DVD Recommendation???
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 27, 2006 09:52PM)
I have seen many demos of Jay's effects, but sadly to say, I do not own any of his DVD's. His humor is a bit of something one has to get use to... But I said to myself: "I can :)"

But where do I begin?? He has so many out there. What are your recommendations?? I am mostly interested in Card, Paper Money and Rubber Band effects.

Which DVD is a Bang for my money to start off with??

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Aug 27, 2006 10:22PM)
Hi!!

What is your skill level? he has beginer DVD's ( that have wonderful effects that are workers ) and more advanced DVD's.

Chris
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Aug 27, 2006 10:25PM)
Check out Front Row Sankey. Great, usable material, not a lot of setup. Also has good variety. Cards, coins, matches, paper money, rubberbands, etc.

This DVD more than paid for itself very quickly for me.

Kevin
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Aug 27, 2006 10:47PM)
I have some trouble adjusting to his humor, too (especially on DVDs like Non-Stop Magic Party), but I do like his (older) material. I have many of his DVDs and probably turn back to "The Very Best of..." vols 1 - 3 most often. After those, my favorites would be "Sankey's Secret Files," "The Sankey-Sanders Sessions," and "Anytime, Anywhere." He also has some terrific published material in Sankey Panky and Sankey Unleashed.
Message: Posted by: clamon86 (Aug 28, 2006 02:22AM)
The Very best of Jay Sankey
Message: Posted by: juan king (Aug 28, 2006 05:14AM)
I would be buying Non-stop magic party.

It is a video he made when he was in love with the magic not with the money and fame.

He is seeming more himself on this video and less of the magic god he is thinking he is now a days because of all the magicians who is kissing his bottoms all the time.

It is interesting to be seeing the changes over the years what a little bit of fame can be doing to a person in how they are perceiving themselves and are acting on the camera.
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 28, 2006 10:24AM)
Thanks for the suggestions.

My skill level is intermediate (I guess-- I could never understand how one can determine this), but I can do any sleight with practice and much time into it. I never say "I can't do it", despite some frustration. Watching someone do the new sleight tells me that IT IS POSSIBLE (except if his hands are bigger than mine, but I'll try to adjust).

Please continue to post suggestions of Jay's DVD's.

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: deputy (Aug 28, 2006 11:03AM)
Front row
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Aug 28, 2006 11:53AM)
Juan, I understand what you are saying but I saw Jay live last year and he is still very much in love with magic, very funny in person (his humor and his magic play much better live than on dvd) and extremely kind and generous. I don't know where you are getting your generalizations from.

As to which dvd's are good, I certainly don't have everything he's put out but I would highly recommend:

Very Best Of (L&L dvd set)
Front Row Sankey
Anytime, Anywhere
Secret Files
Revolutionary Coin Magic
Real Work on Bars and Restaurants

I don't own Sankey-Tized 1 and 2 but I have most of the effects contained on them and they are all great so I would also recommend that set.

All of the above dvds are packed with great tricks and valauable advice.
Message: Posted by: joseph (Aug 28, 2006 06:36PM)
Sankey-Tized 1 and 2....
Message: Posted by: evolve629 (Aug 28, 2006 09:03PM)
I'd go with Secret Files Vol. 1 & 2, Front Row, Greatest Hits, and 22 Blow To The Head. Have fun in your search.
Message: Posted by: Shikina (Aug 29, 2006 01:05AM)
I'm a really big fan of Revolutionary Coin Magic. Other videos by Jay might have more variety (in that they're not all coins) but every idea on this dvd opened my eyes to a new effect or presentational angle I had never really thought of. I still get annoyed by the fact that you have to watch every chapter on the dvd in full in order to see an application of the principle/sleight being taught- as opposed to a more traditional performance/explanation teaching style. But this is a minor distraction from an excellent set of magic.

Since we're on the topic of Jay Sankey videos, every now and again I come across a video on ebay from 1987 by Jay called "masters of excellence". The slip case is notable for a picture of sorts of Mr. Sankey sporting a full head of hair. I did a search once and couldn't find any info about this video Anybody know anything about it?
Message: Posted by: dillib (Aug 31, 2006 12:20PM)
I'll go with his "Very Best of" series.. Those 3 DVDs contain a wealth of information, and the effects can be tweaked to suit anyone.
Message: Posted by: Phil C (Aug 31, 2006 01:38PM)
22 Blows is my favourite
Message: Posted by: in flames (Aug 31, 2006 02:10PM)
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On 2006-08-28 03:22, clamon86 wrote:
The Very best of Jay Sankey
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I agree. I love these 3. I still watch them every now an then. I think that these should have been titled "Greatest Hits".
Message: Posted by: daway0612 (Aug 31, 2006 02:18PM)
I prefer Sankey-Tized
air-tied is even sold alone at PENGUIN
Message: Posted by: magicjack1977 (Sep 3, 2006 10:40AM)
For walk around magic, "Front Row Sankey" is his best. For pure Sankey insanity, you could check out his revolutionary series (card or coin magic). As far as his best effects, and his most watchable DVD, you can do no better than his "the very best of..." series 1-3. It's produced by L&L publishing I believe and could probably be ordered on their website. It is filmed in front of the standard L&L canned (staged) audience though, but entertaining nonetheless.

BTW, for anyone who has seen several L&L produced DVD's- is it me or is the guy with the sandy blonde mullet and 70's porn star mustache, who always seems to be in the front row, really annoying? I could not stand that guy on the Osterlind Mind Mysteries series LOL.
Message: Posted by: bugjack (Sep 3, 2006 12:49PM)
Okay, I have a question. You say you don't respond to Sankey's humor... then why do you want to buy one of his DVDs?

There's something about learning from a DVD that, for me, makes the performer's personality very important. I'm going to be sitting with this person trying to pick up what they're saying, and they have to be someone whose personality I connect with in some way. Or, rather, the person has to be someone who doesn't actively put me off.

I picked up a Sankey DVD a while back after just getting back into magic because I thought I had to. The local magic store was lined with his products -- which I now understand why after reading one of the above posts -- and he seemed to be someone you just had to know about. I bought one of his DVDs and while I think he's a passionate and engaged teacher, two things put me off: the really cringe-y humor, which I found not funny and laced with too much of that "look at me, I'm funny" vibe -- he's almost like the Rupert Pupkin character in "King of Comedy"; and then his constant hucksterism even in the body of the DVD. I've already bought the DVD, he doesn't have to keep telling me how brilliant every effect is.

Also, I found it kind of annoying that instead of just teaching a move he has to make everything an "effect" with its own dopey name. If I wanted to go back and see his demo of a move that is actually in Bobo's, for example, I have to remember what snazzy title he's come up for the routine that uses it. And then there is a lot of repetition in his work. Even on the one DVD I could see the same principles get used again and again.

I wound up trading my Sankey DVD for some other stuff which I've found a lot more practical and fun to watch.

If you're a Sankey fan, more power to you. The guy's coin work is pretty great, and I think his routining is really strong and thought out. I guess all I'm saying is that if you don't jive with his personality, there are plenty of other people out there making DVDs you should check out. I wouldn't assume that there's something on Sankey's work that is so entirely unique that you need to learn it from him. (And yes, I realize that I'm basing this all on watching one DVD and checking out his marketed effects... )
Message: Posted by: tigerman21345 (Sep 3, 2006 01:20PM)
Definitely Front Row, and Boris Pocus has some good tricks and also fun to watch.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 3, 2006 01:51PM)
For those that don't like Jay's Humor, get David Acer's wonderful "On Screen" DVD. There are soem spots with Jay on it. In one, Jay is in a magic shop and does a David Roth as a pirate impersonation. I screamed laughing the first time I saw it.

Chris
Message: Posted by: sayer (Sep 4, 2006 02:31PM)
The very best of Jay Sankey DVD set is simply the best (IMO).
Message: Posted by: FlippingWonderful (Sep 6, 2006 04:55AM)
I like 22 Blows to the Head, although you can't argue with the greatest hits for quantity of content and so you must be able to pick up some good things from there.

As for his humour, I agree when talking to the camera I find his humour less attractive than when he is in front of an audience. Sankey Live has some truely great laugh out loud moments in it if you want to see the funnier side of Sankey.
Message: Posted by: Jacob Smith (Sep 6, 2006 02:35PM)
I own revolutionary coin magic and it is incredible!a little bit of everything coins across,penatrations,and many new or rethought sleights.
Message: Posted by: michaangelo (Sep 8, 2006 01:53AM)
I like the Very Best of... Great material if you can get through the humor/ego.
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Sep 8, 2006 02:10PM)
I'll third Sankey-Tized 1 and 2

You will love "Airtight", shame on you if you don't :)
Message: Posted by: martin56 (Sep 9, 2006 05:19AM)
Shikina, the two Sankey VHs for "masters of excellence", are very good, here the content:

The Fantastic Close-up Magic of Jay Sankey:
Slick Splits
Poush Button
Eye Dropper
Lingering Illusion
Down the Business
HPC-CPH

The Fantastic Close-up Magic of Jay Sankey, AGAIN:
Bread & Butter Production
Outside In
Where There's Smoke
To The Point
The Jokers
A Balancing Act
In case of Emergency
Off and On
One Last Time
Cut and Restrawed
Partners in Crime

Both the videos are from U.S. Toy Co. Inc.
Message: Posted by: SoundWave (Sep 9, 2006 05:40AM)
Get with the Best of series. The material is great and the humor is Sankey.
Message: Posted by: laurent (Sep 9, 2006 03:19PM)
Jay Sankey Live!
A very exciting video with coins and cards routines :
You will see the madness of jay sankey.
Routines are fast, I liked :
haunted card case : good comedy routine
X's & O's : his version of color monte
and specially What's in a name : a spectator's own name mysteriously appears of the back of a card.
Message: Posted by: Juniper587 (Feb 4, 2007 05:32AM)
Hey,

The DVDs that I own are:

Revolutionary Coin Magic(good but hard)
Revolutionary Card Magic( a few nice routines worth buying)
Sankey's Greatest Hits(good I like the archive footage, some great routines)
The Real Work on Bars and Restaurants(not my cup of tea)
The Art of Sleight of Hand(worst thing I've ever bought in magic if it was paper id be wiping my ... with it)

So a real mixed bag but id reccomend most of his DVD's except the last 1 that I mentioned and m sure that people will find a use for the bars and restaurants one I just didn't find it suited me.

All the best,

Sam
Message: Posted by: Iain Moran (Feb 4, 2007 09:43AM)
Most of Sankey's DVD's have some good stuff, but I found more usable material on both Front Row Sankey and The Real Work on Bars and Restaurants.

I too am not particularly keen on Jay's humour, however, I watch his DVD's for the effects and not the presentations.

Iain.
Message: Posted by: Danik1 (Feb 4, 2007 10:49PM)
Here's his top 5 DVD/DVD series in my opinion in no particular order

1) Front Row
2) 22 Blows to the Head
3) The Very Best of Jay Sankey vol.1-2-3
4) Secret Files vol.1-2
5) Anytime Anywhere
Message: Posted by: thecogito (Feb 10, 2007 02:50PM)
I have a few of Jay's items and I really enjoy them. I must admit that "Revolutionary Coin Magic" is great, but it takes a great deal of practice as does any really good coin illusion.
Message: Posted by: evolve629 (Feb 10, 2007 03:32PM)
[quote]
On 2007-02-04 23:49, Danik1 wrote:
Here's his top 5 DVD/DVD series in my opinion in no particular order

1) Front Row
2) 22 Blows to the Head
3) The Very Best of Jay Sankey vol.1-2-3
4) Secret Files vol.1-2
5) Anytime Anywhere

[/quote]

Ditto!
Message: Posted by: kihei kid (Feb 14, 2007 11:08AM)
Secret Files 1 & 2

Remote Control is probably one of my all time favorites. It has never failed to get a great reaction and the MAJORITY of the time a staggering one.

I have had people quite literally leap at the cards and start going through them in a state of pure disbelief.
Message: Posted by: bond19 (Feb 14, 2007 01:23PM)
Danik1 got it right so take his advice and then you'll have an awesome set of Sankey DVD's, in fact this is most of his very best material to date (and I own a LOT of Sankey DVD's)
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Feb 15, 2007 07:56PM)
I agree, kihei kid, Secret Files is AWESOME! So is Paperclipped! & Three Ring Circus. There is some bonus stuff on those two DVD's.

Ya know...I've complained about his language before, but now I've gone back and watched those DVD's...I think it has to GROW on you...his humor, I mean.

I found myself actually LAUGHING at his quirky faces and quips. Wow. Totally unexpected. Do you normally have to watch someone like this, several times before you "get it"? Hey, I'm a guy, and I can take "blue" language...I'll just use headphones, if anyone sensitive is around. LOL!

True, Sankey is not for everyone, but what IS???

Doug
Message: Posted by: sirbrad (Feb 15, 2007 10:13PM)
Love The Very Best Of series. Also look into the book "Sankey Unleashed."
Message: Posted by: Ryan clark (Apr 7, 2007 02:22AM)
Sankey is a true genius, I don't care what anybody has to say, The guy comes out with the most creative plots, and the funniest darn comedy I have seen in Any magic dvd I own. I am a Sankey fan for life.

get revolutionary card and coin magic, very best of series, and anytime anywhere, and if you have a sick sense of humor get oh my god, its a different side of jay, but its histerical.
Message: Posted by: Jacob Smith (Apr 7, 2007 12:20PM)
I can reccomend fully both 45 and Rev. Coin Magic, I do think Sankey can get annoying in Rev. Coin Magic after about a half hour.
Message: Posted by: djurmann (Feb 13, 2011 04:41PM)
I bought Spontaneous Combustion and am wondering how you would describe 22 blows to the head? (Insert awful pun here if you must).

Many thanks,

Danny
Message: Posted by: Vagueli87 (Feb 14, 2011 02:53PM)
I have almost everithing he made.

Let me suggest you take a look at Just Imagine.
Message: Posted by: Martino (Feb 14, 2011 03:27PM)
Vanishing Inc has an encyclopedic set of books covering everything Sankey has ever put out coming out! Not sure when though!

BTW Front Row and the Very Best of Series are my favourite DVDs he's put out!
Message: Posted by: MerlH (Feb 15, 2011 09:42AM)
The "Insider" is a great trick. All the gimmiacs come with the DVD. Imagine- A chosen card VISUALLY appears inside a window envelope INSIDE a sealed baggie. As usual, he has about 10 variations of the trick.
Message: Posted by: fib (Mar 2, 2011 03:09PM)
Sankey makes it a point on his DVD's that magic is theater, first, and mechanics, second -- so when he gives us a silly pretext for a trick, that's him -- his approach, his theatrical bent. We are not supposed to copy. I would think he'd say that you as a performer need to come up with your own theatrical script and personality to suit you, who YOU are -- as it should be.
He's creative, and he's a character. And he has done modern magic a great service for having the courage to be himself.
Message: Posted by: mahucharn (Mar 2, 2011 07:41PM)
Not trying to advertise, but right now on Jay's website (http://www.sankeymagic.com/), he is giving away 1 free ('BEST')DVD with every purchase of $30 or more. Again, not advertising, but if you're looking to buy a Sankey DVD, you could get 2 for the price of one.
Message: Posted by: jstone (Mar 5, 2011 05:48PM)
Hemispheres
Insider
Omnilope
Front Row Sankey
Jay Sankey Live
Message: Posted by: fib (Mar 5, 2011 05:59PM)
Very cool, literally eye-popping, final effect on his DVD "Harcore."
Message: Posted by: Nighthawk (Mar 6, 2011 03:31PM)
I would add:

Revolutionary Coin Magic
Revolutionary Card Magic
Real work in Restuarants and Bars


[quote]
On 2007-02-10 16:32, evolve629 wrote:
[quote]
On 2007-02-04 23:49, Danik1 wrote:
Here's his top 5 DVD/DVD series in my opinion in no particular order

1) Front Row
2) 22 Blows to the Head
3) The Very Best of Jay Sankey vol.1-2-3
4) Secret Files vol.1-2
5) Anytime Anywhere

[/quote]

Ditto!
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Mar 6, 2011 04:06PM)
I don't think he sells it anymore but Short and Sweet is a GREAT dvd packed with cool material.
Message: Posted by: mantel (Mar 10, 2011 07:18AM)
Short and Sweet is apparently in stock at Penguin Magic.
Message: Posted by: acesover (Mar 17, 2011 05:22PM)
If you watch Boris Pocus "Extremely Mental" and listen to what he says in this DVD and both don't learn and laugh you are in big trouble.
Message: Posted by: dtextreme (Mar 21, 2011 11:30PM)
Paperclipped: Special Edition is a great dvd with visual additions for your ACR
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Mar 26, 2011 04:40AM)
The first Sankey vid I ever bought was Sankey's Nonstop Magic Party. It has some of his best (and never seen again) stuff ever and is now very hard to get hold of.
Message: Posted by: vinnymac (Mar 30, 2011 10:35PM)
Jay's upcoming DVD release, "Bending the Real" looks pretty interesting. Seems to be a bit of a different and unique approach. He has been discussing it on [url=http://www.themagicnetwork.com/forum/40-other-magic-discussions/11220-contest-ask-jay-sankey-here-a-win-qbendingq#11220]The Magic Network at this link,[/url] and is also giving away three free copies of it there. It is shipping in a couple of days (April 1).
Message: Posted by: magicsphere (Mar 31, 2011 09:59AM)
[quote]
On 2011-03-30 23:35, vinnymac wrote:
Jay's upcoming DVD release, "Bending the Real" looks pretty interesting. Seems to be a bit of a different and unique approach. He has been discussing it on [url=http://www.themagicnetwork.com/forum/40-other-magic-discussions/11220-contest-ask-jay-sankey-here-a-win-qbendingq#11220]The Magic Network at this link,[/url] and is also giving away three free copies of it there. It is shipping in a couple of days (April 1).
[/quote]
Are part of his follower on twitter or subscriber to his youtube channel? He said there is chance of winning more than just the dvd, he also giving out cash. Tomorrow, the release date. April 1st.

http://www.youtube.com/bendingthereal
Message: Posted by: vinnymac (Apr 1, 2011 12:13AM)
Yes, I follow him on Twitter, and indeed, he is giving away multiple copies through many different channels. He is giving away three copies on The Magic Network, 6 copies on The Magic Newswire, and yes he is holding a YouTube contest where he is giving away cash as well.
Message: Posted by: atouchofmagic1 (Apr 1, 2011 10:54AM)
Ok, so I'm a bit of a Sankey fanatic. I would highly recommend getting the following.

1-Front Row Sankey

2-Revolutionary card magic

3-Revolutionary coin magic

4-Real work on restaurants and bars

5-Sankey very much

6-Hardcore

And also I would check into the Sankey Sanders Sessions. Really great set with some awesome material on it. Jay is an awesome teacher and goes over every detail and usually has a million variations of most effects.

All in all his material is all pretty good and worth looking into IMO.


Always in magic

-Bobby :)
Message: Posted by: TheGreatRaymondo (Apr 30, 2011 09:40AM)
Paperclipped - Special Edition. It is worth the purchase price
for the explanation and demonstration of the Mercury card fold
on its own! I love Jay's style & humour! Its different. He's a one off.
Message: Posted by: michaelmystic2003 (May 1, 2011 03:11PM)
I own over 40 Sankey products... books, effects, DVDs, lecture notes, the works. If I have to pick favourites, here they are (In no particular order).

Revolutionary Coin Magic
The Real Work on Restaurants and Bars
Sankeytized (Volumes 1-2)
Hemispheres
Sankey/Sanders Sessions
Message: Posted by: Darrin Cook (May 1, 2011 04:26PM)
I like Front Row. Take the bill switch with yours and the spec's signatures, then use that spec's signature like bill to lemon.

I used to close my close-up set with my version of Paperclipped. Use Steve Bedwell's Convincing Control Fold instead of the Mercury Fold. That one trick made me a lot of money in tips.

I used to use his Juicy Fruit trick. I don't know if he stills sells it. A spec's chosen (forced) card is revealed on a Juicy Fruit wrapper. I made a bet of a stick of gum that I could find the kid's card. I failed, the card was revealed on the wrapper, and the kid got a stick of gum as a give-away.
Message: Posted by: nimrod (May 2, 2011 03:56AM)
Sankeytized 1,2.
all the rest is cr@p.

Nimrod
Message: Posted by: tgold65 (May 21, 2011 02:03PM)
- Sankeytized 1/2 (includes paperclipped but it was called #$%##! or something like that at the time)
- Greatest Hits
- Front Row Sankey
- 22 Blows
- Insider
Message: Posted by: j100taylor (May 22, 2011 09:41AM)
Front Row Sankey is the best one I own. I think he is lecturing in Cleveland where I live next month - very excited on seeing him.
Message: Posted by: innermind (May 23, 2011 04:21AM)
[quote]
On 2007-02-04 23:49, Danik1 wrote:
Here's his top 5 DVD/DVD series in my opinion in no particular order

1) Front Row
2) 22 Blows to the Head
3) The Very Best of Jay Sankey vol.1-2-3
4) Secret Files vol.1-2
5) Anytime Anywhere

[/quote]


I concur