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Topic: My new Invisible Elastic Hook up
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Sep 28, 2006 07:49PM)
This is a new hook up with invisible elastic that I'm working on. I know it's not smooth yet. I'm still mastering the hook up. But I'm coming up with many uses for it and the great thing is you don't have to anchor to anything. More movement then a traditional loop hook up. With this I can make things float down to the floor and up to my mouth. Make things jump from hand to hand and many other things but you can do it in the middle of a room.

The video is very low quality. I just dropped to the floor in my work room and shot myself experimenting with my cheapo camera. So the video is mainly just for my own observation but I figured I'd post it to get some feed back. I know some of the movement and hand actions might give it away now because I'm still working on it.

Anyway, let me know what you think.

The first thing I do with the napkin is kind of neat because it looks like you're doing the muscle pass. I use this for a slow motion vanish/explanation. For example I ball up and bill. Put it in my left hand and it vanishes. Then it appears in my right. Then I perform it in slow motion to "show how it's done". Do the slow motion mime bit and when the bill hand is opened to show the bill has vanished they see it fly into the other hand. I also like how it floats and allow my hands to move around it. Remember, this hook up uses no anchor and can be done in the middle of a room with people walking all around me.

The cigarette still needs a lot of work. I just have to work out how to make it float to my mouth more smoothly.

[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=W4mIKJR5HhY]Click here to see it.[/url]

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: DerekMerdinyan (Sep 28, 2006 08:22PM)
I would love to watch it, but according to Mr. Youtube, you and I are not "friends."

Derek Merdinyan
Message: Posted by: Tom G (Sep 28, 2006 08:42PM)
Yep, seems to be the wrong link.
Message: Posted by: TannerJade (Sep 28, 2006 09:12PM)
Dang...yes, you must've set it private, so not everyone can see it...
Message: Posted by: John Heggie (Sep 28, 2006 09:22PM)
As a consequence the Male Restroom Etiquette video the link took me to was very funny.
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Sep 29, 2006 09:43AM)
Sorry about that. I just fixed it (I hope). See if it'll work for you now.

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: Zac Vee (Oct 1, 2006 06:05AM)
AWESOME.... Will you teach me that hook lol
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Oct 1, 2006 07:50AM)
If that ever becomes an ebook I'll buy it!
Great Ron,
James
Message: Posted by: Destiny (Oct 1, 2006 08:00AM)
The cigarette is great - an elegant float

Wonderful
Message: Posted by: John Heggie (Oct 1, 2006 02:58PM)
Nicely done.
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Oct 1, 2006 08:13PM)
Thanks everyone.

It's still being worked out. Just about every day I'm finding a new use for the hook up. Just the other day came up with a use for it where I balled up a bill. Placed it on the floor then on my command it jumps up into my hand at about waist level.

What I really like about it is you can do things that you'd normally do with a two point hook up. By that I mean running from you to an anchor point. Yet you don't need to anchor to anything. I love the ITR and still use it a lot but I'm working to do most of the things I do with the ITR using this hook up. So I'll be ready in any situation. I still prefer the ITR to some things though so it's not something to replace it to me. It's just another option.

Having said all that. With this hook up you can also anchor to things like an ITR. Like all thread work it's easy to do but will take a lot of practice to make it look magical.

I like the floating cigarette with it too. If you watch the video you'll probably see why I don't like how it looks when it floats to my mouth. I'm working on something to improve that. The cigarette will float like you see in the video (vertically) but when it floats to my mouth it angles to a horizontal angle as it reaches my lips. The way it moves and angles reminds me of how the action of John Kennedy's Animated Cigarette moves as it floats to his mouth.

I'm working on this to be released with a new kind of invisible elastic thread that's soon to be released. So this hook up will be included in the instructions that come with it. I'll keep you all posted on that.

Thanks for the feed back.

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: Logan (Oct 2, 2006 06:21AM)
Looking forward to it Ron!

This looks excellent! Very promising!

Just a question, with this hook up, could you, in the course of working with cards, drop one and act annoyed - then snapping your fingers and it jumps up to your waiting hand?

That would be a really cool 'magical by-the-way'.

Take care buddy,

Logan
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Oct 2, 2006 01:11PM)
Hmm. With this hook up alone I don't think that would work. Basically the "jumping up to your hand" is done by holding the object to the floor with your foot. For example you might say, "I'll put this bill down here for a moment while I do this other thing". Then when you wan the bill again instead of bending down to pick it up you just hold your hand out and it jumps out from under your toes and fly's to your hand.

But I do know a few ways you can do what you want to do. You can Email or PM me and I'll give you some ideas.

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: Barry Gitelson (Oct 5, 2006 08:07PM)
A new kind of invisable elastic thread soon to be released!!!

Now what do I do with my lifetime supply of dorlastan?

Barry
Message: Posted by: bloodkin (Oct 5, 2006 09:51PM)
Ron, is this similar to a Finn Jon hookup? Looks great.
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Oct 6, 2006 02:51PM)
It's similar to Fin Jon's in that it's an elastic loop. But it's also very different. With this hook up you can do everything you can do with Fin Jon's though. It is an invisible elastic loop. But it's very different.

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: smitty (Oct 28, 2006 09:38PM)
As always Ron, GREAT stuff here. I would love to see you put out a DVD, with all your amazingly creative ideas. You have so much to share with us all. I think it safe to say Ron, you have some 'dedicated fans' here, eager to learn more from you.

Keep teachin us Ron, keep teachin us.

BEST~~~smitty
Message: Posted by: jclark (Oct 29, 2006 10:34PM)
Ron,

Yeah, the other videos caught my attention too. Finally saw it. Good job.

If you want to put out a DVD, call me. No BS man; give us a ring. We are always looking to work with talents like you and bring more people into our creative team. Ask around about us and then, if you are up to it, let's talk a little to explore the ideas.

James

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James L. Clark, Snr.
MBA, MSc., PhD Candidate
President, Blacks Magic Group, Inc.
Message: Posted by: dduane (Oct 30, 2006 11:51AM)
I got away from elastic thread, but this has inspired me to try again! Lot's of new possibilities. Hope you'll have something on this that we can purchase.

I like 'animation' effects, so I have come up with some new hookups and moves for that. I'm curious if animation can work with elastic as effectively as with regular IT.

Thanks!

D.Duane
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Oct 31, 2006 09:32AM)
I'm the same way. I rarely use Elastic Thread. In fact I've mentioned my reasons why in many posts here on the Café in IT sections. But this new hook up has got me started using Elastic thread more often. I still use my ITR most of the time but with this hook up on me I have more options. If I am in a situation where I have something to anchor to then I'll mostly use my ITR. But this hook up is what I'll use when no anchor point is available. For instance if I'm standing in the middle of a crowd (It happens quite often) I can use this hook up right in the middle of the circle of people. There are also some things that can be done with this hook up that can't be done with an ITR. For instance the jumping bill (Very first thing on this video). I like that because I also perform a muscle pass and this looks the same but with a different object.

I'm working on the instructions now. It'll include some basic moves and advanced moves. Some of the moves can get pretty involved and will take a while to master. While others are fairly easy.

I'll keep you posted.

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: The Mirror Images (Nov 7, 2006 09:44PM)
Ron

This is by far the coolest hook up ever. Ron shared his new hook up this with us. By the way I wouldn't really use the word hook up cause there is nothing to hook up to, now that is the [b]cool[/b] part. The possibilities with this are endless. While working with Ron’s method we created a new technique to make things float around your body. Not to mention you can do much more. Ron again very awesome effect. Your thread work is by far top notch. Again I want to express the portability of this effect. You can perform this over and over all day long and walk all over from table to table or group to group and float basically anything that is light weight.
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Nov 9, 2006 02:26PM)
Thanks guys. I'm to have finally meet you and I had fun hanging out.

I can tell Michael was really getting into this hook up. When I first showed it to them Michael spent about a half an hour playing around with it and came up with some pretty cool moves. The moves he did made it look almost like a dancing cane routine. That's probably why I never came up with some of those moves because you where dancing around when you came up with them. I can't dance. :)

I think once it's released a lot of you will do things like that. It's fun to play around with when you first start using it. Kind of makes you feel like a kid with a new toy. :)

The instructions are almost done. Actually they pretty much are done. They're just being proof read and edited right now. So it would be ready very soon.

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Nov 28, 2006 07:55PM)
[b]Wow[/b] and this is with Loops?
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Dec 6, 2006 12:02PM)
Yup. It's a loop but it's very different.

I put up a new video. It's still not the best but the quality of the video is better then the one in the beginning of this discussion.

It's a wmv video and it's embedded in this page:

http://www.magicjax.com/video/infinity.html

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Dec 6, 2006 01:12PM)
Ok so let me get this straight, will you be coming up with this hook up or will we have to do them with the Loops we currently own.
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Dec 6, 2006 04:01PM)
It'll come with a huge spool of invisible elastic thread (1 and a half pound spool so you'll never run out). The thread was formally known as "dorlastan" but it's now called "Infinity elastic thread".

Basically you'll be purchasing the thread and the instructions to this hook up will come with it. Along with your basic instructions such as how to tie the loop and strip the thread.

It's really good invisible elastic thread. It's made of 3 strands that you can separate if you wish. When unstripped it's still pretty invisible and can be used in most performing conditions where other invisible thread would work. I use one strand for a traditional loop. The one single strand is as invisible and as strong as any invisible elastic I've ever seen (Maybe even [b]the[/b] strongest and most invisible). I use two or three strands for the Infinity loop.

Anyway, it's almost ready.

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Dec 6, 2006 07:28PM)
Let me know brother.
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Dec 10, 2006 07:05PM)
This is a real killer,opens up some great possibilities in thread work.
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Dec 14, 2006 03:40PM)
Sorry for the delay on the release. I'm not going to go into detail but the person I'm working on this project lost a loved one recently. So I told him to take his time and not worry about this project.

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: The Mirror Images (Dec 16, 2006 10:43AM)
Ron you forgot the best move and that is when you put the dollar bill or paper under your foot and it shots right up to your hand. It is awesome.

Sorry to hear about the mis fortune.

Laters
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Dec 16, 2006 02:26PM)
This is really good. Ron don't worry about the delay. Im sure everyone here has something to practice on until this release, No worries. People listen to me when I tell you that this is going to open your minds to a lot of new possibilities with the "IL"
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Dec 18, 2006 08:52PM)
It's finally available!

I know it took a lot longer then I had planned but it's now available.

Here's the deal. You get the huge 1-1/2 pound spool of the Infinity Invisible elastic thread.

The hook up that you see in this discussion (now called the [b]Infinity Loop[/b]) will come instantly as a PDF download. So you'll get that right away. I figured this would be a good way to do it so you can read the instructions and completely understand them by the time the spool arrives. It's a 19 page PDF that shows the basics to the Infinity Loop. What I mean by "basics" is I go over how to perform a floating bill, Jumping bill (from hand to hand or floor to hand), floating cigarette, Haunted deck and also how to use the Infinity loop to perform tricks you do with a traditional loop. Once these are mastered you'll have a lot of fun coming up with new moves and uses for it.

I know some of you are going to frown on the price (It never fails no matter what the price is.. :) ). Let me explain a little about that. Do a search on line for any Invisible elastic thread. You'll find that they usually come in tiny spools (I've seen 200 ft. and 200 yards). The average price for them are between $15 to $20. Look at the page for this on my site and you'll see how much the Infinity thread comes with. I can't imagine anyone ever needing to buy a second spool (providing they take care of it).

So anyway, It's now available on my site on the products page. Let me know if you have any questions.

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: Logan (Jan 1, 2007 12:43PM)
WOW!

That spool is huge!

Ron, does the cost cover worldwide shipping?

Although it's a tad pricey, I'm sure it's worth every cent. I'm saving up for this one.
Message: Posted by: teejay (Jan 16, 2007 05:35AM)
Hi
This looks fantastic
But, like Logan, the postage would be a problem
What is in the PDF and if I bought it, can the thread or similar be
bought locally (UK)?
TJ
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Jan 16, 2007 01:33PM)
[quote]
On 2007-01-16 13:43, Rudy Sanchez wrote:

I can help with this one. Shipping is free in the U.S.
Rudy Sanchez
[/quote]

Interesting... I placed an order last night and was charged an additional $7 for shipping (in the US). Rudy?? Ron??
Message: Posted by: Jaxon (Jan 16, 2007 02:41PM)
Magiguy.

Rudy just contacted me about this and it's my fault. I'm sending the $7 shipping back to you. What happened is I was using Paylaodz with the purchases so that the E-book would be delivered instantly. But then I realized that because paylaodz is a paid service with limited sales allowed for each program. With them you have so much you can make before you have to upgrade to a higher account. This means they kept telling me I reached my limit and had to upgrade. So I stopped using their service for this product because it costs more then a single E-book. When I did that I forgot to change the shipping settings in paypal. So my apologies for that.

I see there where a couple more this happened to. I'll get that $7 back to you right away.

By the way. Someone posted their review of this [url=http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=192974&forum=55]here[/url]. Just thought I'd let you know so you can see what others think of it so far.

I'm still coming up with new uses for it. I know it seems kind of late to say that I found new things to do with it but I don't think that'll ever stop. The PDF shows how to do plenty with it but I'm sure that while playing around with it most people will come up with other uses for it.

My latest find is a way to use the Infinity loop to make cigarettes float (and you never touch the cigarette before it floats!). It's really neat. I did it the other night at the bar. I asked someone which cigarette in the ashtray was his. He pointed at one of the 3 in there. Without even touch it I was able to cause it to lift out of the ashtray and float (You really never touch it before hand). I played around with making it float out of someone's mouth but I haven't had the guts to try it to a stranger yet. It's possible but very gutsy. You can also do it with a drink and make their straw float out.

Ron Jaxon
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Jan 16, 2007 03:05PM)
Wow! That was fast. Thanks for the exceptional customer service! I also just received the pdf and am looking forward to digging in.

Thanks again, Ron and Rudy!