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Topic: Jewerly Manipulation
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Nov 13, 2006 06:20AM)
Are there any dvd's that deal with manipulation with jewerly? There is a retired magician who use to do acts with jewerly and light bulbs. I can't recall his name.
Message: Posted by: Kindred (Nov 13, 2006 07:17AM)
I liked Garret Thomas's "RING THING" DVD. It deals with ring manipulation- vanishes, reapearances, and jumping from finger to finger- etc. There is some good stuff on there. The new "Worlds Greatest Magic" series also has a ring DVD out, with a number of famous performers giving their ring routines.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Nov 13, 2006 08:00AM)
Thank you Kindred.
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Nov 13, 2006 09:24AM)
Dynamike:

Do you mean Marvin Roy aka Mr. Electric?

He has a 2 video set available, and on it he goes through his jewlery act (the Liberace act).

Tony
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Nov 13, 2006 12:12PM)
Manipulative magic with non-common objects:

What I have found that when I start to work on a manipulative act using non-common manipulative objects, I always go through a process that seems to work for me to generate ideas and methods. I would like to share some of these thoughts with you if I could in hopes they might help you as well.

1) First you must look past the object and see what the object really is. By this I mean you look past that fact that this is a bracelet or that this object is a broach. By looking past the object you then start to break down the object into its most simplest of forms. The bracelet no longer is a bracelet but is a circular object or a ring of sorts. The broach is not a broach but almost like a small coin and circular in nature and solid but also flat. By breaking the object down to its simplest form, one can often start to see how this object can be used. This brings me to phase 2.

2) Once you have looked past the object and brought it to its simplest forms, you can then look back into your manipulative skills and arsenal and see if you can apply certain moves you already know to these new objects. For example, if one looks at the bracelet as a ring, then you can first start practicing any type of ring on string moves. What moves for ring and string could be applied to this bracelet of which has the same type of shape? A similar thing can be said and done with the broach. the broach could be very similar in shape and form to a coin. What type of manipulative moves can be done with coins that you could apply to the broach. This brings me to phase 3.

3) You do not have to reinvent the wheel when you create a custom manipulative act based on objects that are not commonly used for manipulative magic. As discussed above, you can learn to study moves and use moves you already know and apply these moves to the new objects you are using. Moves used for thimbles, CDs, cards, billiard balls and coins can often be used in the same way for new objects (in this case jewelry).

4)Step 4 is where I begin to experiment. This means really studying the object for what it is. It means looking at it, handling it and using some of the methods and moves you already know to see what may work for you. The more you get used to experimenting with the objects through the act of doing, the sooner you can realize what moves you already know may be able to be applied to this new object. It also then allows you to see if any certain move can be adapted in some way to help you achieve what you are after.

5) Step 5 is where I see if there is any quality about this new object that I can use to my advantage. For example, a broach may have something on the back that I can use to allow my hands to clip it in some fashion allowing me more possibilities for moves and sequences. A necklace can be rolled up and condensed into a smaller form and so can be concealed differently allowing for further possibilities. Study the object and see if anything about the object may give you an advantage. Often times what some magicians see as a hindrance may in fact actually be an advantage.

6) Step 6 is simply trying things out. Go ahead and try stuff. What would happen if I take a necklace in combination with a Fantasio vanishing wand? Hmm perhaps the wand can change into the necklace. This means you will not know unless you simply start DOING. Try things out and see what works and what may not.

7) Make sure to video tape all your practice sessions. This is very important as most of what you develop will be by a happy accident. You will want it on tape so that you can refer to it after any session. Often times something will happen by accident and you may not realize how you got to that point. The video will allow you to see your progression of ideas.

There are certainly more steps that I use and can be used, but I hope these 7 simple steps will help get you started in the right direction for creating unique manipulative act ideas.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Nov 13, 2006 03:30PM)
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On 2006-11-13 10:24, Tony Iacoviello wrote:
Dynamike:

Do you mean Marvin Roy aka Mr. Electric?

He has a 2 video set available, and on it he goes through his jewlery act (the Liberace act).

Tony

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Yea, you are right. I will search for the video set. Tony, your check is in the mail. ;)

I do find different objects I would like to use in my jewerly act. It is harder to think and perform an act because no one teaches me, I must put it together myself.
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Nov 13, 2006 09:51PM)
Mike:

You will find it turns out better that way, more you can shine though.

BTW: I checked the mailbox, only bills. :(

Tony
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Nov 14, 2006 06:11AM)
I agree. Sometimes it is better putting an act together by yourself. You are not as inclined to be persuaded to do something someone else has already done before or to create an act that is based upon others thinking.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Nov 14, 2006 07:27AM)
Marvin Roy did Jewerly act and it is shown on the Stevens Video/DVD. It was sold with all rights to David and Dania.

Richard
Message: Posted by: DonHarlan (Jun 6, 2008 06:49PM)
De'vo came out with a ring manipulation dvd.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jun 11, 2008 12:37PM)
Jinx, you watched it yet?
Message: Posted by: Oliver Ross (Jun 17, 2008 04:34AM)
Pierre Brama from France did aswell some magic with jewelery in his FISM Act.

Oliver.
Message: Posted by: soleil (Jun 17, 2008 02:05PM)
There is a an old book from Carel Fox on jewellery stage magic.
Best,
Soleil
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jun 18, 2008 08:57PM)
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On 2008-06-17 15:05, soleil wrote:
There is a an old book from Carel Fox on jewellery stage magic.
Best,
Soleil
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Anyone knows the title?
Message: Posted by: mikeybionic (Jun 21, 2008 10:16PM)
Just an idea, but you could do rope tricks if you used a long enough necklace chain . . . or professors nightmare with different sized chains . . . or ring and rope with a necklace and a bracelet . . . or ninja rings with just bracelets . . . or thimble tricks with a ring that's a little too small . . . okay, that was more than just one idea.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jun 22, 2008 12:39AM)
I never thought about any of them before. I will look into each one. Thanks.