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Topic: Starter Pouch Ideas
Message: Posted by: SeanD13 (Jan 6, 2007 03:13PM)
Hello all,

Do any of you have any good ideas of what I can use as a pouch for my cups and balls?

I would love to get one of Frank's pouches ( http://www.theambitiouscard.com ), but I do not have that kind of money. Well not yet, that is.

I am sure that there must be a pouch out there that I could use. Right???

Thank you for any help you may give.
SeanD13
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Jan 6, 2007 04:56PM)
Well, you could go to the automotive section of your local WalMart and find a suitable pouch, although it won't last nearly as long as one of Frank's great pouches.

You can see what I'm talking about here; just watch the slide shows or check out my pics at:

http://www.myspace.com/chris_robertson

...and you'll see what I use (for now) as a pouch.

johnny
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Jan 6, 2007 04:58PM)
If you are doing a three or four tennis ball size load, you can use a waiter's apron from any uniform shop. These usually have three compartments, but you can remove the stitching and just make one small dart, dead center of the top lip, pinning it to the back of the apron.

This leaves the apron looking like it has two pockets, when in fact it only has one large one. I hope that makes sense. They work quite well for a pouch in a pinch.

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jan 6, 2007 05:25PM)
I've heard heavy canvas or leather nail pouches from your local hardware store work fairly well, too.
Message: Posted by: Adam J (Jan 6, 2007 05:36PM)
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On 2007-01-06 18:25, Dave VanVranken wrote:
I've heard heavy canvas or leather nail pouches from your local hardware store work fairly well, too.
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This is similar to what I have. About 2 years ago, when I first came here, I posted about pouches, and it started a pretty long topic. However, I got a private message from someone who had a pouch they were looking to get rid of. They asked if I wanted it. I got it in the mail, it was in great condition, and I still use it to this day.

It's basically 'cloth' with blue outlines. It has 3 'pockets' in the front, 2 of which are connected. It allows me to store up to 4 balls, plus some other stuff. If you're looking to go professional, I don't know if it's what you'd want, but it costs about $20 or less if you search around at a Home Depot or WalMart. For that kind of money, it really is worth it.
Message: Posted by: SeanD13 (Jan 6, 2007 10:45PM)
Thanks, I will have to look around and see what I can find at Home Depot. I did not think of a nail bag.

Johnny, I am not too sure what pic I was looking for. Can you point me to the right photo?

Adam, I would like to see a pic of the pouch you are using whenever you have time.

Thank you, all.
SeanD13
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Jan 6, 2007 10:57PM)
The waiter bags are better suited, and they are black. If you wear black trousers, they look like they are part of the pants. I've used nail bags, as well. I always found them a bit shallow.

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: SeanD13 (Jan 6, 2007 11:25PM)
Danny,

Would the waiter pouch be able to stay open, so you can grab out one of your final loads without anyone seeing what you are doing?

SeanD13
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jan 7, 2007 01:29AM)
Sean,
The pouch in my avatar is soft leather, but it was inspired around the waiter pouch design. The load should hold the pouch open enough to reach inside without fumbling. If you use Gazzo's routine, you never go into the pouch without a reason; so reaching in is a natural action, and the steal goes unnoticed.
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Jan 7, 2007 07:53AM)
Sean,

Yup, it sure does. It is actually a pretty good way to go. I was still wearing mine for strolling gigs as my carnival character, right up until I got one of Frank's pouches.

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Jan 7, 2007 08:57AM)
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On 2007-01-06 23:45, SeanD13 wrote:
Johnny, I am not to sure what pic I was looking for. Can you point me to the right photo?
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Check out the pics of me working the cups and balls. I'm wearing a pouch I got from WalMart for $7. It can be found in my pics, or in my slide show of pictures, on my profile at...

http://www.myspace.com/chris_robertson
Message: Posted by: Arkadia (Jan 7, 2007 10:01AM)
What's the different measurements for the Starsini and the Gazzo pouch? I am thinking about buying, making, or finding some suitable pouch, as well. I will start doing the Cups on the street, and the pouch I am using right now is not big enough for the melon load. Measurements would be great. Thanks!

/Ark
Message: Posted by: Joe Howard (Jan 7, 2007 10:53AM)
I used the 5 pocket apron (shown here: http://www.rinovelty.com/Products.asp?cat=carnival&sub=CASU&page=5 If the link won't load to the proper page, just copy and paste) for many years. The front 3 pockets are gusseted, so they stay open. The 2 rear pockets are perfect for cards, even jumbo cards. It worked much better than the waiters apron that I used before I got this one, and they are very inexpensive. I wore a blue shirt to match the trim, and it looked like a complete outfit.

Joe H
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Jan 7, 2007 12:27PM)
Joe, those are nice! Thanks, buddy!

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: Adam J (Jan 7, 2007 12:34PM)
Joe,
That's the same pouch I use, except mine only has the 3 big pockets! Same colors, too. So Sean, do you still want a picture?

Adam
Message: Posted by: SeanD13 (Jan 7, 2007 01:59PM)
Joe, thanks for the link. I will give it some thought on the pouches. Do you think you could undo some of the stitching and make the pockets bigger?

Also Dave, where did you get your pouch?

SeanD13
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jan 7, 2007 02:04PM)
Sean,
Along with Gazzo's pouch, I also have two different models of Frank's pouches. The one in the avatar is Frank's "Cellini" pouch. http://www.theambitiouscard.com It works well for everything but the melon load. Frank's newest busker pouch looks even better. It has pockets for nearly everything you'll ever need, plus plenty of space for multiple large loads.
Message: Posted by: Adam J (Jan 7, 2007 03:14PM)
Sean,

Here are the pictures, as you asked. The first one is me wearing the pouch (taken in the mirror, sorry for the blurriness). The second picture shows everything that was in the pouch!

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2140/dscn1037rn9.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7242/dscn1041nc3.jpg

Anyways, in the pouch was: 3 Cups, a Wand, 5 final load Lacrosse Balls, a Jumbo Quarter, 3 Decks of Cards, 4 Sponge Balls, and a Box of Multiplying Balls.

Not the prettiest pouch, but it gets the job done.

Adam
Message: Posted by: Joe Howard (Jan 7, 2007 04:17PM)
Sean,

You don't need the pockets bigger, they hold plenty. The pouch Adam is wearing in the photo is the same one, except he has the 3 pocket model. The five pocket model looks the same, except it has 2 flat pockets behind the 3 gusseted ones. Unless you want to produce a melon or a coconut, it will be fine. I used it for the cups for years until I got a Gazzo pouch for the big load.

I have an old one laying around, and you can have it if you want it. I won't ever use it again, I have a Gazzo and 3 of Frank's pouches (Cellini, Poacher's Pouch, and Busker's Pouch), so I think I'm good for now. I cut the straps shorter, so I wouldn't have a lot of extra strap flapping around in back, and I put a plastic snap buckle on it. If your waist is under 40 inches you should be OK without being at the very end of the line.

I also have one of these ( http://apronman.com/7hppu.htm ) that is brand new and never used. If anyone wants it, I'll sell it to them for 20.00 postpaid. It's the one with the big buckle. It's all black with no blue piping.

Joe H
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Jan 7, 2007 08:27PM)
Hey Adam, what are those cups you have? They look like the cups I just bought.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Adam J (Jan 7, 2007 08:33PM)
Jim,
They're just Bazar de Magia Brass Cups. I haven't used them/polished them in a while, hence why they're so tarnished, but I really like the look of it! What are the cups you just got, if they aren't the same?

Adam
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Jan 7, 2007 09:46PM)
Hey Adam,

"3 Cups, a Wand, 5 final load Lacrosse Balls, a Jumbo Quarter, 3 Decks of Cards, 4 Sponge Balls, and a Box of Multiplying Balls."

That sounds like a good little act. I see you're from Boston. Give me a holler sometime.

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Jan 8, 2007 04:45AM)
{Hey, Danny.}
Adam,
Those are the same cups I just bought a few weeks ago, but I got the copper ones. I got them for a strolling corporate gig I did. I like the look and feel of them, also. Nice cups. I only paid 40 bucks, or so.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Eddie Torres (Jan 8, 2007 05:22AM)
Before I had gotten one of Frank's great pouches, I had bought a cheap lady's purse, cut off the straps, and cut 2 slits in the back of it as belt loops. It held three cups, 4 tennis balls, some rope, and a deck of cards, and it didn't look odd at all...well, not to me.
Message: Posted by: SeanD13 (Jan 8, 2007 01:10PM)
Thank you all for the great tips. I did not think of using a lady's purse. It is not a bad idea. I will have to look in to it.


Thanks again, everybody.

SeanD13
Message: Posted by: bwarren3 (Jan 26, 2007 01:22AM)
Sean,
Go to either Home Depot or, preferably, Lowe's. They have these black, rigid, pre-formed 3-pouch sets of carpenter or nail belts for about $35 in the tool belt section. They worked great until I got Frank to make me a gorgeous pouch. Thanks, Frank!!!
Bill
Message: Posted by: JamesinLA (Jan 26, 2007 04:27PM)
I recently bought a leather nail pouch from my local hardware store. It was calf skin colored, so I dyed it black with shoe dye, which I also got at the hardware store. I wanted it for working with my smaller "lemon cups". At first I thought it was deeper than it needed to be, but now I think it's just right because the depth will help in working close up so people can't see the loads while standing close to my table.
If you want to load a melon, Gazzo's pouch is the way to go! It's an investment.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Leland Stone (Feb 7, 2007 10:35AM)
FWIW, I like the idea of a nailbag, if for other reason than I happen to BE a contractor (sorry) and I've got some lying about already. They don't fit my performing character, but it's not hard to visualise doing some "Home Improvement" like character in flannel shirt and blue jeans, doing Jerry Andrus' effect (not sure what it's called) but it uses REAL PLUMBING PIPE for a riff on the Cups And Balls!

Hm. Looks like my day job uniform might have to start doing double duty...

Leland