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Topic: Blown Eggs
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Jan 11, 2007 12:39PM)
Hello Everybody,

I just got my first REAL Malini Egg Bag yesterday, yippie do! What I'd like to know is what can I use to seal the holes in my blown eggs?

johnny
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jan 11, 2007 01:27PM)
Charlie Miller said "Spackle", but depending on the size of the hole, I have used Elmer's white glue and/or epoxy resin glue.
Message: Posted by: CJRichard (Jan 11, 2007 02:18PM)
Seriously, Johnny, did you really miss the two-page thread on blowing eggs in the finger/stage manipulation section?

[url=http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=191674&forum=10&35]Egg Blowing 101[/url]

More than anyone needs to know about preparing eggs for non-food purposes.
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Jan 11, 2007 02:35PM)
Yes, sirree, Bob! I missed it, as is with anything else! ;)

Thanks for the heads up on that thread.

Posted: Jan 12, 2007 12:34am
Thanks, I got me some spackle and done up some blown eggs. It works like a charm, so far. I couldn't find any Elmer's glue. And to think...I got a house full of kids. There should be some around...

It's amazing all my duct tape is always vanishing also, no matter how many rolls I buy.

johnny

http://www.myspace.com/chris_robertson
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Jan 12, 2007 10:31PM)
While making blown eggs, a small piece of tissue paper and a little egg white also works.

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: ttorres (Jan 13, 2007 10:22PM)
This was not touched on either post... but I spray a little clear Krylon (matte finish) 1311 paint on my eggs once the spackle dries and they have been sanded. This does not change their color, and it increases their strength.

Tony
Message: Posted by: CJRichard (Jan 14, 2007 09:58AM)
I'd bet that swishing some diluted white glue or some polyurethane around the inside and letting it dry before sealing the hole would add strength, too.
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Jan 19, 2007 09:53PM)
For storage and transport of raw and blown eggs, just put them inside a plastic Easter Egg. Right now, they are available at Dollar Tree in a large bag full you can share with friends.

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: jakeg (Jan 20, 2007 10:40AM)
Dumb Question: In my egg bag routine, I use a wooden egg and a blown egg that I break in someone's pocket. I never bother to cover up the hole. Are you using the blown egg in the body of the routine, and if so, isn't it too fragile? Also, doesn't the lack of weight effect movement from top to bottom of the bag?
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jan 20, 2007 11:45AM)
It probably depends in part on what kind of bag you're using. I'm only familiar with the Malini style of lightweight bag.

If the egg's too heavy, it'll cause the bag to droop, thus ruining the illusion that the bag is empty. A little dip of the hand as the egg drops works well to create the illusion of weight.
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Jan 21, 2007 04:35PM)
Actually I don't use a blown egg for egg bag routines unless it ends there. I prefer using a pottery egg (brown or white egg) that matches my Silk to Egg gimmicked egg, so I can go on with the routine. The egg disappears in the egg bag and becomes a silk. The silk later becomes an egg, and then a REAL EGG.

The pottery egg is more realistic in handling, too! The weight is right.

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander

PS --- I like to use brown eggs, too, just to bug magicians that think gimmicked eggs only come in white.
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Jan 21, 2007 05:42PM)
Thank you, Mr. Sanders, for the e-mail and sharing with me your wonderful insights!

johnny
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Jan 21, 2007 09:18PM)
Johnny,

Thank you. I'll look forward to your TV special!

Will it cause the price of eggs to go up?

Bob
Message: Posted by: bobn3 (Jan 25, 2007 08:34AM)
Hi all,

I got an Eggs-Actly egg from Stevens Magic. It works great, looks real, and you don't have to mess with blowing out eggs.

Bob Phillips

http://www.stevensmagic.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=2050
Message: Posted by: kaytracy (Jan 30, 2007 05:42PM)
For nice looking eggs that do not need to be broken or cracked, there are some lovely ones available at the craft stores, including songbirds, robins, etc.
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Feb 3, 2007 07:17PM)
I can't say that I never use real blown eggs anymore. There are times like dove pan and candy factory where the egg needs smashing.

However, I use pottery eggs probably 19 out of every 20 times I can. It's just one less problem to have.

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: montemagic (Feb 3, 2007 07:30PM)
Another thing to consider is the latex egg. I always knew them as Weller Eggs, but that name isn't around anymore. You place a pice of napkin in a glass and swirl it around and it slowly turns into an egg. It's a very nice addition to the egg bag. I have seen them here:
http://www.misdirections.com/accessories.html

They have an egg section about halfway down the page.
Message: Posted by: ttorres (Feb 3, 2007 08:53PM)
I have used a Weller egg for years. I never used a piece of tissue paper or napkin I would pluck a peddle from a rose drop the peddle into a glass and it would transform into an egg. You can also do an egg on fan routine. Good stuff.

Tony
Message: Posted by: montemagic (Feb 3, 2007 10:09PM)
Tony,

Can you still buy Wellers egg?

Matt
Message: Posted by: jlevey (Feb 4, 2007 10:14AM)
Is the Steven's Eggs-Actly EGG lightweight enough to use effectively with the Malini egg-bag?

Is the Steven's egg a "real" blown egg or a synthetic egg (ie. plastic or other material)?

Does anyone out there use the Malini bag with the Steven's egg?

I am torn between ordering a half dozen of blown eggs from Denny magic and one good (long-lasting) Steven's egg.

Please advise.

Many thanks in advance.

Jonathan
Message: Posted by: Jim Wilder (Feb 4, 2007 01:09PM)
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On 2007-02-04 11:14, jlevey wrote:
Is the Steven's Eggs-Actly EGG lightweight enough to use effectively with the Malini egg-bag?
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I am torn between ordering a half dozen of blown egs from Denny magic and one good (long-lasting) Steven's egg.

Please advise.

Many thanks in advance.

Jonathan

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Go to your local market. Buy Grade A medium (bantam in some regions) or large eggs... just the six pack. That will cost you approximately $0.99 USD. Then go to your local hardware store, purchase lightweight spackle. If you do not have a tiny nail or brad, go ahead and pick up one. You should get out of your hardware store for less than $6.

When you get home, take the eggs near the sink. [b]Lightly[/b] tap the top of one of the eggs with the brad and a hammer or striking object of your choice until you get a hole the size of ball point pen's tip. Turn the same egg over and repeat. Run warm/hot water over and through the egg. Occasionally blow the egg... I'm not being rude... I mean it. When you see clear water passing through the egg, you're mostly done at that point. Repeat with as many eggs as you wish. Give the eggs a few hours to dry.

Once the eggs have dried, put some white glue inside them, and try to let the glue coat the inside as much as possible. Again, let dry.

Next place some spackle over the holes. You can make the spackle smooth with your fingers, no need for sanding. You will encounter some problems occasionally with the hole opening, but just add more spackle.

Be prepared to break some eggs while doing this. That said, you will have a set of good props for under $10.
Certainly buy the others if you wish, I have. Just be prepared to drop them, crush them, have your dog eat them, or have Eric Evans drop them in a parking lot prior to a show. That's ok... just fork out another $15 and you will have your new name brand props in 5-7 business days.
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Feb 4, 2007 01:47PM)
The Tirofog Eggs-Actly that Stevens Magic sells is a real egg that has been blown and reinforced with an interior coating. They are much sturdier than a blown egg but will crack if dropped. This is the egg that Gazzo recommended and sold at his master class. It works well with the Malini style bag.

We had a broken one at the master class. Looking inside we even found a logo glued to the inside of the egg! From what I can tell, they go in from the side with a moderate sized hole, liberally coat the insides, apply the logo and seal it up.

The Denny and Lee eggs are real too. Last time I checked they still had holes in the ends. I don't know if they're reinforced in any way.
Message: Posted by: Jim Wilder (Feb 4, 2007 02:10PM)
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On 2007-02-04 14:47, Dave VanVranken wrote:
The Tirofog Eggs-Actly that Stevens Magic sells is a real egg that has been blown and reinforced with an interior coating. They are much sturdier than a blown egg but will crack if dropped. This is the egg that Gazzo recommended and sold at his master class. It works well with the Malini style bag.
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Yes, they will crack and you've paid more than $1. And sold for $$$ profit at a masterclass.
And remember, more doctors smoke Camels.
Message: Posted by: jlevey (Feb 4, 2007 04:26PM)
Aren't there any very lightweight synthetic eggs, that look real, on the market?

To answer my own question...
I suppose there are farmers that raise synthetic chickens, thus producing such eggs, but in case there aren't any such farms in our area, or such farms that have on-line gorcery stores, can any Café members recommend any Magic dealers that sell such eggs --seriously? No Yolk.

I'm prepared to shell out some cold cash for the right syntheic egg (or at least PayPal cash).

Many thanks.

Jonathan
Message: Posted by: Gazzo (Feb 4, 2007 04:53PM)
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On 2007-02-04 14:47, Dave VanVranken wrote:. This is the egg that Gazzo recommended and sold at his master class. It works well with the Malini style bag.


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I would appreciate if you guys could refrain from using my name when giving information out on these forums. In the future, you could PM me and ask if its okay to write that "Gazzo said this, Gazzo said that, etc"

The fact be known I recommend that you use Exactly Eggs or Perfect Eggs for Practice Only. But for performance you blow your own Egg. In my opinion the Exactly and Perfect eggs are too heavy.

Thanks,
Gazzo

P.S. This is why I lecture and have workshops. So people can obtain my performance skills and knowledge from me.
Message: Posted by: jlevey (Feb 4, 2007 07:54PM)
Below is the product description direct from Steven's web site, for their
"Eggs-Actly Eggs"...
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Eggs-Actly... The perfect egg to use for any egg bag routine! Realistic, hollow, light-weight. Specially treated for extra durability. NOW AVAILABLE IN MEDIUM AND SMALL...PLEASE SPECIFY SMALL OR MEDIUM WHEN YOU ORDER!
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It's interesting to note that by claiming their eggs to be "realistic", they seem to suggest that these particualr eggs "are not real"...

Question...Are the Steven's Eggs-Actly eggs "REAL EGGS" that have been modified, or are they "fake eggs", made to look real?

Please clarify.

If you drop one of these Steven Eggs onto the floor, indadvertently (...not thrown down with hard G-force), is it likely to crack, break, or damage in any way?

In addition, Steven's offers to sell both a"medium" size egg and a "small" size egg. Which size egg is more suited for use with the Malini style bag?

Finally, back to my eariler question posted above...

Does anyone happen to know a dealer that sells lightweight plastic or hard synthetic type egg that looks real, and is good for using in conjunction with the Malini type Egg-bag?

If so, please provide a link to the dealer's site.

Many thanks.

Jonathan
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Feb 4, 2007 08:19PM)
I'd like to know also where there be some realistic synthetic eggs. I've yet to find any in my search.

I use blown eggs w/a little spackle, seems to work fine in practice and performance.

johnny
Message: Posted by: jlevey (Feb 4, 2007 10:16PM)
While waiting for someone to suggest a reliable source for purchasing synthetic/light-weight eggs, I've just "blown" my first egg and it "looks" great... in fact, it looks "very realistic" .

I'm doubtful that I can drip glue through the tiny "nail-hole" at the top (or is it at the bottom?!?) of this egg.

I suppose I could make the hole larger, or I seem to recall a note about purchasing a Dr's needle at a local pharmacy and injecting the egg with the glue.

Does someone have the link to the instructions that descrtibe this method?

Withough the glue inside, will the blown egg tend to crack if dropped from waist height?

Please advise.

Jonathan
Message: Posted by: jlevey (Feb 4, 2007 10:21PM)
Actually, I found "one" of these links:

http://sunnisan.com/crafts/eggblowing.html

Seems I was mistaken. The needle (or "syringe"), is used to extract the liquid inside the egg. It is not used to "inject" the glue.

Still, re-inforcing the inside ofthe egg with Elmer's glue seems like a great idea. So I can't help thinking that injecting glue would be a good thing, if possible.

Suggestions?

Jonathan
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Feb 4, 2007 10:28PM)
I use wooden eggs for practice and eggs-actly eggs in performance.
For the very lightweight malini bags, I also think the eggs-actly eggs are too heavy. With the malini bags that use heavier material the eggs-actly eggs seem fine.

For the really lightweight malini bags, I think that a blown egg is really necessary.

If an eggs-actly egg cracks it will still be usable unless you just drop it on the street.

If you want to make your own, I think Jim Wilder's advice is what I'd use.
Message: Posted by: jlevey (Feb 5, 2007 05:56AM)
Thanks Frank!
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Feb 9, 2007 12:19AM)
Reality is, if the egg is really on your "want list", it likely can be broken. Always have backups and hope you carry them for no good reason.

Bob
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Feb 9, 2007 02:38AM)
I roll a tiny piece of kleenex tight between my finger and thumb to get a round wedge shape, stick it into the hole in the egg, and then slice off the excess with a razor blade. I then seal it with a tiny daub of white Elmer's Glue. Works geat, with no mess!
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Feb 12, 2007 09:13AM)
Elmer's Glue is the basis of a lot of things in life! It's not limited to magic.

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander

*** As he prepares strings for his "impromtu" cut and restored string routine.
Message: Posted by: tboehnlein (Feb 12, 2007 09:22AM)
OKay, I have to plead ignorance here, I have been doing the egg bag for years & have never used a blown egg & do not really see why I would. I currently use an excellent wood egg that I can get for a buck & looks & feels like the real thing. What are the advantage of a blown egg over the durability of a wooden egg?

Thanks, Tom
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Feb 12, 2007 10:30PM)
The advantage of a blown egg over a wooden egg is that you handle a blown egg like a real egg -- gingerly. It adds to the verisimilitude of the effect.

Johnny Thompson covers this on his egg bag video. Get the smallest, whitest eggs you can find -- if you can get pee wee eggs, they are the best. Blow the whole dozen.

I'll put the instructions for blowing an egg in the secret sessions.

I'll also finish off how to prepare the egg for use with a Malini style egg bag.

And I have included how to prepare the egg skins the way Tommy Martin, who was world famous for the egg on the fan, showed me.

You can find this here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=197566&forum=37&0
Message: Posted by: jlevey (Feb 16, 2007 12:09PM)
Thanks Bill!!
Message: Posted by: Stuart Coyle (Feb 16, 2007 11:07PM)
I have had some success with filling blown eggs with expanding foam. It gives them a bit more strength and weight. I exploded a few in my first experiments, so wear safety goggles if you try this!

Blowing things up is FUN!
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Feb 17, 2007 10:13AM)
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On 2007-02-17 00:07, Stuart Coyle wrote:
I have had some success with filling blown eggs with expanding foam. It gives them a bit more strength and weight. I exploded a few in my first experiments, so wear safety goggles if you try this!

Blowing things up is FUN!
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That would be fun!!!
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Feb 20, 2007 11:23PM)
[quote]
On 2007-02-17 00:07, Stuart Coyle wrote:
I have had some success with filling blown eggs with expanding foam. It gives them a bit more strength and weight. I exploded a few in my first experiments, so wear safety goggles if you try this!

Blowing things up is FUN!
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Yes child, your dad was shelled in the war. No he did not get the Purple Heart. He got the foam yoke.

Bob
Message: Posted by: jlevey (Feb 22, 2007 05:57AM)
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On 2007-02-21 00:23, Bob Sanders wrote:
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On 2007-02-17 00:07, Stuart Coyle wrote:
I have had some success with filling blown eggs with expanding foam. It gives them a bit more strength and weight. I exploded a few in my first experiments, so wear safety goggles if you try this!

Blowing things up is FUN!
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Yes child, your dad was shelled in the war. No he did not get the Purple Heart. He got the foam yoke.

Bob

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This type of humor does indeed crack me up... omm... let us see if their are any more yokes (--I mean "jokes", I mean "folks") that can fry.