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Topic: Dove from the Air
Message: Posted by: Magicdoc88 (Jan 28, 2007 03:18PM)
Has anyone performed this Dove from the air trick? I am thinking of getting it, but would like to know what audience reaction to this trick from those who have done it?
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Jan 28, 2007 03:59PM)
I have seen the trick but do not perform it (because I have seen it). It is not an ineffective trick but one of very limited application. I would only want to perform it in a theater setting due to ceiling height. It only produces doves. That is the easiest part so there are plenty of very good alternatives for that. (Good Dove vanishes are much harder to find.)

Unless you have a script that would allow you to make this a small part of a much larger routine, I would keep looking. It is more of an "extra toy" than the basis of show after show.

It is purely mechanical so that it is not difficult. It works! I would simply rather have a more versatile prop for my money. It's not for me.

It's your show!

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: Magicdoc88 (Jan 28, 2007 08:15PM)
Thanks Bob, your opinion is well respected.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Jan 29, 2007 08:55AM)
Bob is correct. It is a good effect but has some limitations. First, you really need an assistant. Second, you are swinging a net so a low ceiling height can kill you.

But audience reaction is good to it if you don't have problems with the limitations.

Message: Posted by: RJE (Jan 29, 2007 09:41AM)
Another observation is getting the speed right in swinging the net. You want to move it quick enough to create the illusion properly, but not so fast that you look like you might be slamming or hurting the dove in any way. Audiences tend to get quite upset with the appearance of any harm coming to the livestock.

All the best,

Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Jan 29, 2007 10:39AM)
On 2007-01-28 21:15, Magicdoc88 wrote:
Thanks Bob, your opinion is well respected.

Thank you Magicdoc88. What would you charge to talk to my wife? She's a doctor. LOL

Seriously, thank you.

Message: Posted by: Magicdoc88 (Jan 29, 2007 12:45PM)
We have this unwritten "professional courtesy" that is free consultation to our fellow collegues in medicine as well as in magic. Maybe I should consult her on medical magic since she has been in it much longer than I have. :)
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jan 31, 2007 03:44AM)
I use to perform it. It is not hard to perform. You will need perfect timing between you and your assistant.
Message: Posted by: Amazinjess (Feb 2, 2007 06:47AM)
I recently bought this illusion from Tillford Magic. The one I bought you can perform alone. You do not need an assistant. It's a beautiful effect and allows you to produce 2 doves, but the whole thing lasts about a minute. Check out http://www.tilfordillusions.com/noAssistant.html for details.
Message: Posted by: Magicdoc88 (Feb 2, 2007 09:04AM)
Amazinjess, I checked the website, nice prop but a bit more than I budget for.
You look so young, what other dove magics do you do?
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Feb 2, 2007 07:02PM)
It can be done as a single but it is more effective using an assistant. Jack Hughes made a model that fit into a table top.

Did you ever get your Dove Encyclopedia question solved?

Message: Posted by: Amazinjess (Feb 4, 2007 01:33PM)

In my current stage act I use balloon to dove, vanishing cane to silk to dove, the norm neilsen silk flower to dove, and then I use a dove to dog cage and produce my teacup yorkie. I have 12 doves and spend lots of time training them.

I am preparing for the Tannen's competition this summer and am working on a new act using the dove catcher, goldfish productions, a few other dove steals and then then the vanishing dove cage. I have been working really hard on all this as well as schoolwork and doing shows.

Posted: Feb 4, 2007 2:35pm
Hi Richard,
Yes, I did. Autumn found a copy for me. I did not receive the book yet, but it's on its way. Thanks for asking and thanks for all your help.