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Topic: Alacatraz the Puzzle. Does anyone have this?
Message: Posted by: taller8 (Apr 7, 2007 10:48AM)
I thought this looked kind of interesting. Sometimes a puzzle trick can be fun.

Any comments from anyone who has seen this puzzle?

http://www.hanklee.org/xcart/product.php?productid=8772&cat=0&page=1
Message: Posted by: jerrydb4 (Apr 7, 2007 11:39AM)
I have this, it is pretty ingenious. The creator of this used to sell them on Ebay, not sure if they still do that. It is pretty much a straight up puzzle so I am not sure how you could use it for a performance. I am sure there are some people out there who could find a way to use it for a performance but I just have it laying around for friends to try and solve. If you like puzzles though I think you will like this.
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Apr 7, 2007 12:17PM)
I have one too. Hey, there's a cool version available, too, that's in ALL wood. One's large enough to "cage" your TV remote (that's what it's for..) and the other one is the right size for a wallet. They're like little, all-wood cages, and they operate the same way as the "Alcatraz" version. I don't have a link, and the store in my area that sells them isn't a chain, just an individual store.

Steve
Message: Posted by: Sweet M (Apr 7, 2007 11:16PM)
Taller8. Cute name by the way. Think this looks really cool. Do you know the secret to the puzzle? Can it be solved by use of a common PK gimmick? I think I'll get one if so. Thanks and habba gr8 easter.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 8, 2007 12:37AM)
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On 2007-04-08 00:16, Sweet M wrote:
Can it be solved by use of a common PK gimmick?
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Good thought Sweet M! Hopefully a strong PK Gimmick should be able to do the trick.

Thanks for the idea.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: jerrydb4 (Apr 8, 2007 10:26AM)
Yes, a PK Gimmick will solve it.
Message: Posted by: taller8 (Apr 8, 2007 10:56AM)
I wonder how strong the PK needs to be?
Message: Posted by: Sweet M (Apr 8, 2007 12:27PM)
Thanks to you all for the posts. I'll definitely get this one. Already running little routines through my mind. Have a super easter everyone.
Message: Posted by: TomKMagic (Apr 8, 2007 12:42PM)
I have had one for many years (probably at least 10 or 12 years).

If you use it for a magic routine, it is pretty much a show of skill or something. I would either pass it behind my back or even just turn my body around as quick as possible (360deg) and as fast as I could turn, I would have the ball out and in the condition that I could hand out both pieces for examination. So, it can be magical, but is more of just a puzzle.

Another method I used years ago was a small neo m*gn*t to open it. Once you know what part needs to be near it, it is really easy. I just tested with my Wizard PK ring and it works well to open it, but how you would actually use that in a routine... well that's up to you to decide.

Tom
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 9, 2007 02:54AM)
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On 2007-04-08 13:42, TomKMagic wrote:
* If you use it for a magic routine, it is pretty much a show of skill . . . but is more of just a puzzle.

* I just tested with my Wizard PK ring and it works well to open it, but how you would actually use that in a routine... well that's up to you to decide.
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Yes, for now, itís just a puzzle. Glad to know that a PK Ring can solve the puzzle. No more twists, turns & bang to solve the puzzle.

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On 2007-04-08 13:27, Sweet M wrote:
Already running little routines through my mind.
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Look forward to know more about the routines/ ideas you come up with [b]'The Great Escape from Alcatraz'[/b].

A routine that comes to mind - After the STEEL BALL is made to escape from the cage use another (same size) magnetic ball & do the "Newton's Nightmare" effect. After all it wasnít an ordinary BALL that was so well guarded. :)

:xmas:

Message: Posted by: taller8 (Apr 12, 2007 07:00PM)
My pk rings works great with Alcatraz.

This is a 'must have' for anyone with a PK ring and for anyone who desires a great puzzle type effect.

For 12.95, this is great.

Feel free to pm me on how to operate it with a pk ring if you do purchase one. It comes with no instructions. After all, it is a puzzle.
Message: Posted by: tuffnavyrn (Apr 12, 2007 11:43PM)
I too have had this for about 3 years or so and I gotta say it rocks!! I was very efficient/proficient in getting the ball out rather quickly. It never dawned on me to work this with a PK so I pulled mine out and as Ustaad and others have mentioned it makes working the thing a breeze.....no more banging.
Message: Posted by: jimesw (Jun 5, 2007 12:36PM)
Ok, now I feel really stupid. I bought this and can't figure it out.
Anyone want to pm me pointers?
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Jun 5, 2007 02:26PM)
Wow!

I had one of these about 15 years ago until one of my friends got so frustrated that he bent one of the bars to get the ball out!!!


=Frank=
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Jun 5, 2007 02:33PM)
When operating it (to open) you need to hold the ball with 2 fingers to keep the force from bending one (or more) of the bars, too.

Steve
Message: Posted by: Roland78 (Jun 6, 2007 04:52AM)
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On 2007-06-05 13:36, jimesw wrote:
Ok, now I feel really stupid. I bought this and can't figure it out.
Anyone want to pm me pointers?
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I have it and I don't think you want to know the real working, it would spoil the pleasure of finding the solution. But if you read all this posts about PK ring you can have a nice hint about it ;)

Dave
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Jun 6, 2007 05:18AM)
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On 2007-06-06 05:52, Roland78 wrote:
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On 2007-06-05 13:36, jimesw wrote:
Ok, now I feel really stupid. I bought this and can't figure it out.
Anyone want to pm me pointers?
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I have it and I don't think you want to know the real working, it would spoil the pleasure of finding the solution. But if you read all this posts about PK ring you can have a nice hint about it ;)

Dave
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Yes, I too would suggest that you first try & attempt to solve the puzzle yourself. Failing which, check out the solution link I sent you thru a PM.

Happy solving! :) ;)

:xmas: