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Topic: Ideas for coin unique
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Apr 8, 2007 11:10AM)
I just got coin unique and can see many uses for it. One that comes to mind is to use it to end my spare change routine. I do spare change with a sun and moon gimmick using a half dollar and english penny. I end the routine with a half dollar and a quarter which are totally ordinary. I often will pass them out for emamination if they are interested. Since I end with these two coins, a simple switch and I can cause the quarter to disappear in their hand. I can also make it reappear somewhere else if I like. This is just an idea.
I also thought of sticking a regular quarter on the back of their hand and then putting the "two" coins in their hand. Show your hands empty, slide the half over the quarter and have them close their hand. With an empty hand pluck the quarter off the back of their hand, claiming you pulled it through their hand. When they open their hand up they find only a half dollar.
I was wondering if anyone had any ideas for this great gimmick?
Thanks.

-Paul
Message: Posted by: Sweet M (Apr 8, 2007 12:21PM)
Do not own this one, but am looking into purchasing. What's your opinion on the handling, quality, examinability, etc...?

How obvious is it to notice the gaffing? How strong is the gimmick?

Thanks
Message: Posted by: Justin Craddock (Apr 8, 2007 01:21PM)
They should make it in dime and quarter.
Message: Posted by: Sweet M (Apr 8, 2007 02:13PM)
I agree. A smaller denomination as you said or even nickel/quarter would be nice.
Message: Posted by: damien60 (Apr 8, 2007 05:11PM)
This is a great gaffed coin.. I showed one of the hardest audiences (my Wife and my Mother) an effect with coin unique last night..Simply put one coin over the other turn over a glass and cover the coins..with a very quick swirling motion, move the coins around the mouth of the glass..one of the coins disappears!Needless to say both of them were blown away...I followed this by Hopping Halfs, and a flipper coin effect...They reckon I should be on a stage..( a stagecoach perhaps!!)
Anymore ideas for Coin unique Guys?
Message: Posted by: DanielSkahen (Apr 8, 2007 05:52PM)
I'm curious what you all think of Miracle Coin? I'm not too drawn to working with half dollar, but gold dollars and certainly quarters are common enough. Any feedback?
Message: Posted by: Sweet M (Apr 8, 2007 06:21PM)
I've had miracle coin for some time now and it's great. Effects like the one described above work easily. Same concept, just different size and I assume a different maker. Scotch and soda routines work well with this coin also.

Best of luck............
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Apr 8, 2007 06:56PM)
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On 2007-04-08 13:21, Sweet M wrote:
Do not own this one, but am looking into purchasing. What's your opinion on the handling, quality, examinability, etc...?

How obvious is it to notice the gaffing? How strong is the gimmick?

Thanks
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The handling is easy. The quality is great, however, I heard from others that some talk a little more than others. I have 2 sets and mine are quiet. As far as the examinability, I heard from some they don't let the spectator examine it, as for me, I do let the spectator examine it and have never been questioned. The spectator will not notice the gaff and the gimmick is strong enough not to worry the quarter will fall out.

paso8396, I sent you a pm on my routine. It would have been a little bit of exposure to post it.
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Apr 8, 2007 07:03PM)
Thanks for the comments guys.
My gimmick is very strong and can only come apart with another strong Ma***t. So it is quite examinable. The lines are hard to see unless you are looking for them. I think this is a great coin gimmick.
I like that you can cause a coin to disappear in their hand without worrying about the coins locking. With a dime and penny or scotch and soda locking can be an issue if you do it in their hand. This one does all the work for you.
Another idea I am working on is once I do spare change and switch in the coin unique gimmick you:
place the coins in their hand and cause the quarter to vanish
Then
using an M5 on your wrist or the raven cause the half dollar to vanish with a wave of your hands.
Let me know what you think of the M5/raven vanish off of their open palm. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Apr 8, 2007 07:24PM)
I use the PK ring to reset the gimmick. However, it only works on my one set, my other set is stronger and the PK ring doesn't work.

I also use my 2 sets of coin unique in play with the "invisible quarters" effect. I first vanish the quarters with my coin unique sets only to have them reappear inside the shot glass using the "invisible quarters" effect.
Message: Posted by: Paul Rathbun (Apr 8, 2007 08:37PM)
Tbaer,
That sounds interesting, but where do you get the "invisible quarters" effect? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Apr 8, 2007 08:58PM)
http://www.thetrickery.com/full/Magic-Tricks-Magic-Estate-Sale-Magic-Shops-1-Invisible-Quarters__5803.htm

click on video demo

You don't have to use 2 quarters, you can only use one if you want to.
Message: Posted by: lubdub (Apr 19, 2007 08:43PM)
I use my coin unique for a "international shadow coins" I came up with....i'm actually think about publishing it.....uses more than just the coin unique gimmick tho.....Just remember, a little thinking goes a long way.


best wishes,
Jordan
Message: Posted by: Irishghost (May 10, 2007 11:09AM)
Were can one watch a demo of Coin Unique?
Message: Posted by: ChristopherM (May 12, 2007 10:50AM)
At your local magic shop! :)
Message: Posted by: tbaer (May 12, 2007 03:25PM)
I watched a demo of coin unique surfing the web awhile back, however, I can't seem to locate one at this time. But I'm sure if you search long enough you will be able to find a link.
Message: Posted by: Danny Diamond (May 16, 2007 02:26PM)
Martin Sanderson has a nice effect utilizing the Coin Unique gimmick - I believe it is on his Corporate Closeup DVD.
Message: Posted by: Shakey (May 16, 2007 03:51PM)
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On 2007-04-08 18:11, damien60 wrote:
This is a great gaffed coin.. I showed one of the hardest audiences (my Wife and my Mother) an effect with coin unique last night..Simply put one coin over the other turn over a glass and cover the coins..with a very quick swirling motion, move the coins around the mouth of the glass..one of the coins disappears!Needless to say both of them were blown away...I followed this by Hopping Halfs, and a flipper coin effect...They reckon I should be on a stage..( a stagecoach perhaps!!)
Anymore ideas for Coin unique Guys?
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Although this is a great presentation - I've seen it done by several Magicians - I honestly believe you need to reproduce the vanished coin from somewhere - views please?
Message: Posted by: Tom Fenton (Jun 2, 2007 10:21AM)
When I was a student at Uni I used to do the "Swirl away" vanish at a local golf club where I worked behind the bar.

I did the effect on the bar top using a beer towel as a close up mat, after the coin had gone I would pick up the towel to reveal the vanished coin which I had placed there prior to the effect.

I used to put pennies under each of the towels in both bars to be sure I could always do it as I used to get requests for this all the time.

Tom
Message: Posted by: rubadubdub (Jun 24, 2007 03:23PM)
Coin in Balloon comes to mind.
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Jun 24, 2007 08:32PM)
http://www.stevensmagic.com/videoclips/

Here's the coin unique video demo, but it doesn't do justice to the effects that you can do with the coins.
Message: Posted by: tony2514 (Jun 25, 2007 11:42AM)
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On 2007-06-24 16:23, rubadubdub wrote:
Coin in Balloon comes to mind.


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I am in the UK and the Coin Unique I have is a 1/1p version. I tried coin in balloon with it but the precision edges often burst the balloons so I now use my PK ring and a 1 or 2p coin - In the UK these are steel core which is handy.

I also use my PK ring for separating Coin Unique. Have you tried coin thru beer mat or cofee cup? very easy and visual. However, as I said, UK copper coins are steel core so you can use (or give away) the coin that has passed through an object which always helps, I feel. You could always borrow a coin and do a switch, I suppose.
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Jun 25, 2007 06:18PM)
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I also use my PK ring for separating Coin Unique.
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same here
Message: Posted by: tony2514 (Jun 29, 2007 02:18AM)
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On 2007-05-16 16:51, Shakey wrote:
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On 2007-04-08 18:11, damien60 wrote:
This is a great gaffed coin.. I showed one of the hardest audiences (my Wife and my Mother) an effect with coin unique last night..Simply put one coin over the other turn over a glass and cover the coins..with a very quick swirling motion, move the coins around the mouth of the glass..one of the coins disappears!Needless to say both of them were blown away...I followed this by Hopping Halfs, and a flipper coin effect...They reckon I should be on a stage..( a stagecoach perhaps!!)
Anymore ideas for Coin unique Guys?
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Although this is a great presentation - I've seen it done by several Magicians - I honestly believe you need to reproduce the vanished coin from somewhere - views please?
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In the UK, all our 'copper' coins are steel shell so I do this with a 1p (my coin unique is 1/1p) stuck to my PK ring - it could just as easily be palmed. When the 1p disappears from under the glass, the hand holding the glass bottom is inverted to show the 1p has leapt through the solid base of the glas in to the magicians hand. Similarly, you could hold a hand under the table to show the 1p has dissolved through the table and been caught by the magician. Or, again using the PK ring, the 1 could be picked up from under the glass, placed on the 'ring hand' and with a magical pass, the 1p would reappear as the coin is separated. The disadvantage with this ending is you are left with unexaminable coins.
Message: Posted by: jolyonjenkins (Jun 29, 2007 03:33AM)
These sort of routines never quite satisfy me - why would you only make the 1p go through the glass, and not the 1? Why have two coins at all?

Incidentally, not all our copper coins are steel shell - only the newer ones.
But as the copper ones are worth more as copper than they are as coins, I don't suppose they will be around much longer.
Message: Posted by: tony2514 (Jun 29, 2007 10:38AM)
I think it's pre 1983 they are not steel core but pretty much all others are.

I actually keep some very nicely polished older ones on me just in case someone suspects that magnetism is used - you can demonstrate that coins are NOT attracted to magnets as most people suspect this is the case anyway. I've never had to do it, but it's there just in case.

I agree that to magicians it is slightly suspect that only one coin disappears, but people do not question that in performance, I find. The attraction of the coin under the glass routine is that the coin disappears IN FULL VIEW of the spectator. That outweighs any question the spectator may have about why only one of the two coins vanished. The coin was there under a glass where it could not be interfered with and then, with no cover, it simply vanished. WOW!

OK, it takes no skill to perform (and I know a lot of Magicians poo-poo the idea of effects that do not require hours of practice - I'm a bit like that myself) but if you put it in the middle of a longer routine, it can be a reputation maker amongst lay people.

I do it as part of a long running gag where a 1p coin keeps disappearing and reappearing in all sorts of odd places and the specs love it.
Message: Posted by: jolyonjenkins (Jun 29, 2007 11:17AM)
Ah, incorporating it as part of something else is a good idea. I do a matrix with 1p coins. Maybe it could follow on from that, if I found a way of introducing the 1 as well. 1 coins seem a bit thick for most coin magic.
Message: Posted by: tony2514 (Jun 29, 2007 11:50AM)
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On 2007-06-29 12:17, rjenkins wrote:
Ah, incorporating it as part of something else is a good idea. I do a matrix with 1p coins. Maybe it could follow on from that, if I found a way of introducing the 1 as well. 1 coins seem a bit thick for most coin magic.
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This is something I do occasionally. With the appearing and disappearing penny being a running thread through some of my routines, it can be a good way to get rid of penny no.5.

If your last 1p in the matrix is the Coin unique 1p, show it as a fifth coin (unheard of as an ending to coin matrix) and say "how did that get there?" If it's been disappearing and reappearing throughout your other routines, it will not be questioned, it will just be seen as another mystery reappearance. So ask to borrow a 1 coin, switch it with the other half of the gimmick and place a glass over the top of the 1/1p. Do the swirl and your penny has gone again. Pick up the 1 and switch it back for the spectators one and hand it back. The pesky penny has gone once more - this time in full view of everyone - and it can reappear at any point later in the routine.

The disappearing/reappearing penny goes down really well and gives a thread that runs through other routines and is very funny, particularly when the specs have begun to forget about it and, woops!, there it is again. I usually end a session by finally reappearing the penny and saying "well, I can't get rid of it, so you may as well keep it for luck" and hand it to one of the spectators.

It's just a bit of fun to aid continuity and give a theme to a session
Message: Posted by: gvmagic1 (Jun 29, 2007 06:06PM)
Is Coin Unique simply a one phase routine wherein one coin vanishes?
Message: Posted by: tony2514 (Jun 30, 2007 03:41AM)
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On 2007-06-29 19:06, gvmagic1 wrote:
Is Coin Unique simply a one phase routine wherein one coin vanishes?
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Yes & No - think along the lines of magnetic S&S
Message: Posted by: Bendy (Oct 4, 2007 10:34PM)
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On 2007-06-25 19:18, tbaer wrote:
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I also use my PK ring for separating Coin Unique.
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same here
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Ditto. It's smoother and quicker and less noticable if others are around than trying to reset it the way they explain in the directions.

I like the gimmick. I don't use it as often as some of my other gaffed coins, (Hopping Halfs, Flipper Coin, Cigarette/Pen/Dollar Thru Quarter, Dime & Penny, etc.), but I never leave home without it! Good idea & well-made. Mine doesn't "talk" as much as apparently some other sets do. Worth the price in my opinion.