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Topic: Magician's Tiger Kills Fiance
Message: Posted by: bkowkabany (May 14, 2007 09:41AM)
Anyone hear about this:

Why Tigers Don't Make Good Pets
A couple of days ago a woman in British Columbia (Canada) was killed by a pet tiger. The tiger belonged to the woman's fiance, a magician who kept a "private zoo" where people could get their photos taken with these animals. The tiger was in its cage the whole time, but reached outside the cage and grabbed her, causing fatal injuries to her legs. The private zoo also houses two other tigers and two lions among other exotic animals. The tiger involved in the incident has been euthanized. This incident has led to calls for regulations against keeping exotic animals and should serve as a reminder to us that big cats are wild animals that are very strong and can be unpredictable, and have no place as pets. While I have strong feeling on the topic of private ownership of tigers and lions, my heart still aches for the family and friends of the woman involved.
Message: Posted by: IllusionJack (May 15, 2007 12:05AM)
I love how they euthanize animals for doing their normal natural thing. I admire Roy Horn for insisting the cat that attacked him not be euthanized. It is unfortunate this woman was killed by the animal - articles I read on the incident mentioned the facility having been investigated by the SPCA on previous occasions.

--Jack :pepsi:
Message: Posted by: ssucahyo (May 15, 2007 05:07AM)
Hi, I read this news in my local newspaper. so sad...

CC
Message: Posted by: bkowkabany (May 15, 2007 06:51AM)
Did they mention in any of the articles who the magician is?

I have been around cats in cages like this. They are normally safe, but you always have to be careful. I remember a lion cub on a chain at winter quarters. His swipe was powerful and he was no bigger than a small dog at the time!
Message: Posted by: Doug Arden (May 15, 2007 07:45AM)
The magician's name is Kim Carlton.

http://www.siberianmagic.com
Message: Posted by: bkowkabany (May 15, 2007 07:52AM)
Thank you Doug.
Message: Posted by: airship (May 15, 2007 02:09PM)
There's a gruesome scene in the movie Cat People (the remake, not the original) where Ed Begley Jr. gets his arm ripped off by a big cat in a cage. I still give big cat cages a 10 ft. clearance.
Message: Posted by: bkowkabany (May 15, 2007 02:15PM)
I remember that scene. Gave me the creeps for weeks. Still, properly handled the cats are manageable. They just need respect.
Message: Posted by: tuffnavyrn (May 16, 2007 12:10AM)
Condolences to the magi and the family for their loss.
Message: Posted by: Doug Arden (May 16, 2007 08:17AM)
Yes indeed, condolences to all involved, particularly their children who witnessed the entire tragedy. That will be etched in their minds forever.
Message: Posted by: bcookmagic (May 16, 2007 11:12AM)
WOW, I just hung out with Kim over New years and I met his new lion cub Jasmine...she was the hit of the party. Kim is a great guy who loves his animals dearly..truly very sad news. Brian
Message: Posted by: eddieloughran (May 17, 2007 06:05AM)
Many years ago I was at London Zoo when a man was attacked by a Lion through the cage bars as he was poking it with a stick !

It hasn't been etched on my mind, to use Dougs phrase,because I was husled away quickly and I can bearly remember it.
Message: Posted by: RobertBloor (May 17, 2007 09:37AM)
[quote]eddie: Many years ago I was at London Zoo when a man was attacked by a Lion through the cage bars as he was poking it with a stick ! [/quote]

No loss there.

Does anyone have a reliable media link to this story? I can't imagine after the S&R incident that another magi animal attack would go unreported.

-Robert
Message: Posted by: Chrystal (Jun 23, 2007 11:34AM)
The story recieved extensive coverage up here and ironically never dwelt on the fact that he was a magician, with the exception of the newstory below in a tiny quip. The stories on the tv nightly and the newspapers focused more on the use of exotic pets being kept by private individuals.


http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/story.html?id=189b1f0b-73ec-47c6-8b96-ab2075f922c2&k=48336

Chrystal
Message: Posted by: ibm_usa (Jun 23, 2007 10:10PM)
But who is to blame? did it say that the magician kept the tiger as a pet or not? if it did then the magician shares some fault by spoiling a wild animal. The Tiger was probably agrivated at the woman who he probably didn't know very well or the woman fed the tiger, tiger wanted more, tiger didn't get more so he goes emo.
could it be the heat? or something else.
Message: Posted by: Father Photius (Jun 24, 2007 01:25AM)
As any experienced animal trainer will tell you, a wild animal, even if raised in captivity is still a wild animal. If that animal is a lot larger than you are, weighs upwards from 500 lbs, has big teeth and big claws, there is always a danger that the handler or anyone else who interacts with the animal will get hurt. Animals get disoriented, scared, irritated, just like humans do, and like humans when they get into such frames of mind they act out. When you find yourself in the immediate proximity of such an animal with sharp teeth and claws who is acting out, it is never a good place to be. Even the most gentle domesticated house cats and dogs at times will strike out at their owners if they are hurt, scared, disoriented, or irritated. Always a risk with large cats. Sad situation.
Message: Posted by: ibm_usa (Jun 24, 2007 04:04PM)
I think the woman was trying to feed the animal, unless someone tells me otherwise, why else would anyone who has no business with the tiger go so close to it?
Message: Posted by: ibm_usa (Jun 24, 2007 04:05PM)
I think the woman was trying to feed the animal, unless someone tells me otherwise, why else would anyone who has no business with the tiger go so close to it?
Message: Posted by: Christopher Starr (Jun 26, 2007 12:48AM)
I have to admit that I was somewhat terrified by the photos on that site of very young children being posed with a grown tiger. :eek:
Message: Posted by: ibm_usa (Jun 26, 2007 08:57AM)
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On 2007-06-26 01:48, Christopher Starr wrote:
I have to admit that I was somewhat terrified by the photos on that site of very young children being posed with a grown tiger. :eek:
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You have got to be kidding me! a tiger cub and a kid is one thing but a tiger and a kid is another! that is a accident waiting to happen, the tiger was probably fed earlier. I still say it was food that caused this incident in the first place, for more details see my earlier post.
Message: Posted by: MagiClyde (Jun 28, 2007 02:46AM)
[quote]Many years ago I was at London Zoo when a man was attacked by a Lion through the cage bars as he was poking it with a stick ! [/quote]

The guy got exactly what he deserved. Some people are just too stupid for their own good!

I saw a video of a guy celebrating the birthday of his pet boa constrictor. He was hanging it around the necks of other people so they could get their picture taken with the "birthday boy". One was a two year old. After being handled so much, the snake actually lashed out and bit his owner. That put an end to any more celebrations with the snake.
Message: Posted by: ibm_usa (Jul 6, 2007 06:03PM)
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On 2007-06-28 03:46, clynim wrote:
[quote]Many years ago I was at London Zoo when a man was attacked by a Lion through the cage bars as he was poking it with a stick ! [/quote]

The guy got exactly what he deserved. Some people are just too stupid for their own good!

I saw a video of a guy celebrating the birthday of his pet boa constrictor. He was hanging it around the necks of other people so they could get their picture taken with the "birthday boy". One was a two year old. After being handled so much, the snake actually lashed out and bit his owner. That put an end to any more celebrations with the snake.
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that's how pets become overweight, sluggish and most disgusting of all, spoiled.