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Topic: Oz Pearlman - Born To Perform
Message: Posted by: tnscot (May 18, 2007 10:23AM)
I've searched the forum for info on this DVD. Lotsa hits, but not too much usable info. Mostly people debating if it looks worth buying. It's been a while, so I thought maybe some more people have tried it and have a review of it? It sounds like a great starting tool. What's the word, guys?
Message: Posted by: mitchb2 (May 18, 2007 10:54AM)
When I first asked about card magic, I was told to get the book "Royal Road to Card Magic," which I did.

I see they now have a 4-DVD set:
http://www.magictricks.com/videos/dvds/dvdroyalroad.htm
Message: Posted by: tupawk (May 18, 2007 11:12AM)
I can second the recommendation of buying the Royal Road book. As for the DVD's I have the ones put out by L&L with Paul Wilson and they are excellent. From what I've heard about the other ones these are much better for just a bit more.

Sorry I am of no help with your original question about Born to Perform. Maybe someone else has seen it?
Message: Posted by: DanielSkahen (May 18, 2007 06:59PM)
Born to Perform is the roll of bread they give you while you wait for your meal. Tasty but unnecessary, and altogether unfulfilling. Royal Road is the entree.
Message: Posted by: MDew (May 19, 2007 12:57AM)
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On 2007-05-18 19:59, DanielSkahen wrote:
Born to Perform is the roll of bread they give you while you wait for your meal. Tasty but unnecessary, and altogether unfulfilling. Royal Road is the entree.
[/quote]

What would the main course and the dessert be?
Message: Posted by: pghdude80 (May 19, 2007 01:39AM)
I hate to be redundant, but it bears repeating. The Royal Road is one of the best. If you take the time to work on and master what is contained in these lessons, you will be doing some excellent card work. I'm not saying that there are not other great resources out there, but this one has helped me more than any other.

J
Message: Posted by: Erdnase27 (May 19, 2007 02:51PM)
Its funny to watch but like said. Just a bread inbetween the meals.

I liked Gerry Griffin complete encyclopedia of card magic much.
Much usable material and lots to learn(except good pattern:D)
Message: Posted by: solrak29 (May 20, 2007 12:02AM)
Born to Perform is descent DVD and has something for the begginner and someone
sleightly more than beginner. I think you can spend about a year or so mastering
this material depending on how fast you pick this stuff up, but that could just be me.

OZ starts off showing, by example, 3 or 4 routines ( I think its 4 but I havn't watched it in long time). He performs his routine and gives a detailed explanation of the what, how, and why of what he does. These effects are like "classics" that most card folks know. Add OZ's touch, and you have the sleight variations he teaches. Its good "comercial" grade magic, to me.

I think its good starting point with all the moves and flouishes he teaches and
some of the stuff will take time to get right and honed to the smoothness that you will need to perform it properly.

Its not an indepth study on the subject, but it is a descent starting point, but
that is just my opinion. It also depends on where you want to go with this stuff.

Say you got this DVD, and learned everything. You don't want to be a copy of OZ
from my perspective. You will want to learn a bit about performing and entertaining with cards...but again, this depends on where you want to go with this stuff.

One last point, I think this type of DVD was geared towards the popularity of
"street" magic at the time, but I don't think that cheapens what is taught in the DVD.
Message: Posted by: tnscot (May 20, 2007 10:51AM)
Thanks for all the input. Sounds like it might be worth getting at some point, but not initially, and certainly not before I have invested in RRTCM. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Cory Gallupe (May 20, 2007 11:27AM)
Hey Scot. Man, it's been a while since I've been on the Café. A lot of homework lateley...

I recomend BTP if you are new to the card magic world. It teaches four routines in tootal.
_Ambitious Card
-Biddle Trick
-Untimate Transpo
-Two Card Monte

He teaches you how to do a double lift, erdnase change, tent vanish, biddle count, classic pass, palming, elmsley count, and much more.
This was the very first card magic DVD I bought. I highly recommend it,however you could easily learn the things taught in this DVD, and much more from RRTCM.
I would advise getting that.
Scot, have a fun and fulfulling journey in card magic!
-Cory.
Message: Posted by: LCBellah (Jun 7, 2007 03:08PM)
Scot, I think that everyone who wants to really learn card magic should have a copy of RRCM. It's a great book full of valuable information on handling cards and the price is very reasonable. I just ordered copies of Card College vols.1&2 and I'm looking forward to working thru those.

I also have a copy of the DVD-BTP. It's a good beginning card DVD. OZ teaches well and it's interesting watching him perform for people on the street. He starts with some fundamentals and works on up to flourishes. Some are very difficult, like the hot shot cut. He also includes the four routines that Cory mentioned.

For the price vs. value I would say that RRCM would be your best purchase.
Message: Posted by: Andy the cardician (Jun 7, 2007 04:33PM)
RRTCM is a great start. Pick it up and start practicing in front of a mirror - a video camera would even be better.

You will develop your own style and make your own discoveries. A DVD is a faster track, but you will be deprived of a valuable thinking and discovery process.

Andy
Message: Posted by: Mark Wilden (Jun 7, 2007 05:32PM)
As always, I recommend [i]Card College Light[/i] before RRTCM. Giobbi's book teaches routines of self-working tricks. You'll learn how to [i]perform[/i] before spending dozens of hours learning sleights. After you've determined whether the performance of magic is something you enjoy, you can move on to sleight of hand.

///ark
Message: Posted by: DaddyDoodle (Jun 7, 2007 08:07PM)
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On 2007-05-18 11:54, mitchb2 wrote:
When I first asked about card magic, I was told to get the book "Royal Road to Card Magic," which I did.

I see they now have a 4-DVD set:
http://www.magictricks.com/videos/dvds/dvdroyalroad.htm</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></TD></TR><TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TABLE>
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Actually, I preferred R. Paul Wilson's RRTCM 5 DVD set - see http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.magicproshop.com/royal-road-card-magic-paul-wilson-dvd-p-6285.html&e=17315&fr=AP2R9GNXE18IOjqOAIiH6YuoXnjSQFZeGwAAAAAAAAAA&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNFenYzUHTam6HtMWssH8b3Go8AX0Q.
Message: Posted by: DaddyDoodle (Jun 7, 2007 08:10PM)
And, yes, Born to Perform is a decent video. Oz has a nice take on the impromptu, close-up audience for these (few) effects. But, as I understand, it's only like $29 - not a bad price for some relevant pointers and instruction.
Message: Posted by: wardini (Jun 7, 2007 10:29PM)
I quite like ‘Born to Perform’ but for a beginner R. Paul Wilson's RRTCM 5 DVD set is far, far more useful. I’ve not seen the other RRTCM DVD so can’t compare.

'Born to Perform' has a couple of good routines , one which I frequently use, and quite a few sleights, but as a structured learning tool RRTCM is streets ahead, with lots of useable material. It includes self working effects as well so you can build your performance confidence.
Message: Posted by: Mark Wilden (Jun 8, 2007 12:38PM)
I have both the RRTCM DVD sets and I find them both valuable. I think Rudy Hunter gives more personal tips and is in general a better teacher. On the other hand, Paul Wilson covers much more of the material, especially the tricks. On the downside, his performances are dreadful.

///ark
Message: Posted by: wardini (Jun 8, 2007 05:23PM)
Mark,

I'm interested to know why you think his performances are dreadful.

Regards,

Gareth
Message: Posted by: Mark Wilden (Jun 8, 2007 05:46PM)
There are pointless pauses. He always uses the same goofy face when he's "secretly" looking at his cards. He sometimes betrays irritation when his audience doesn't respond to a trick, and there are lots of moments like that. I can imagine that the audience may be seeing a trick a number of times, but other magicians in other videos don't seem to have any trouble being entertaining. I don't even like the way he reveals the chosen card. But most of all, he just doesn't have any "spark." Maybe the Scots are just too dour to be good performers; I dunno.

I could probably come up with a lot more reasons, but I haven't looked at the video for a couple of months. And hey, if you think he's entertaining, more power to you both!

///ark
Message: Posted by: wardini (Jun 9, 2007 07:57PM)
Mark,

I was interested in your thoughts from a learning perspective, there was no judgement meant or implied.

I wasn't particularly adverse to his performance but then again I don't have a tremendously upbeat style either.
Message: Posted by: Andy the cardician (Jun 10, 2007 09:35AM)
Wardini,
the problem from learning from a DVD or Video is that there is always the danger of adopting the performance style as well. It requires a very strong and well developed performance character to resist the temptation.

Andy
Message: Posted by: Mark Wilden (Jun 10, 2007 01:11PM)
For a beginner, copying someone else's style isn't
a danger--it's the correct thing to do, in my
opinion. Someone big in magic (Burger? Ortiz?)
expressed this recently, but I'm darned if I can
remember who.

The point was that a beginner [i]has[/i] no style of
his own to apply. Just like a painter copying a Renoir
painting or a rock guitarist learning a Hendrix
solo note for note, a beginning
magician does well to learn style from others, as well
as tricks.

After you've learned a master magician's style, you can
mold it and adapt it to yourself, just as you will mold
and adapt his tricks and sleights. But you can't do that
until you learn what good style is.

That, at least, was the thrust of this guy's comments. I'll
try to dig up who said it. It certainly runs counter to the
accepted wisdom. Most great thoughts do.

///ark

(Is anyone else having trouble with the wordwrapping here?
Lines don't wrap in either IE6 or FireFox 2. It's very
annoying to have to format a message like this just to
be able to read it.)
Message: Posted by: Doc Magic (Jun 10, 2007 03:21PM)
With out a doubt I would say to start with Royal Road to Card Magic & the Card Collage series. Not only will you get a thorough course in card manipulation, but some great routines as well. I do own Pearlman's DVD as well, but his material along with many other great routines can be found in most complete course magic series such as Tarbell's Course in Magic (great series). I hope that helps.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Jun 12, 2007 03:13PM)
I really liked Born to perform. When I was first starting out it helped alot. I learned about royal road after I got born to perform and I got it too. Both of them are a great resource for the beginner. I would also recommened card college light (I wish I would have found this when I started). When your ready to tackle something bigger the original 5 volume card college books are awesome.

Tim
Message: Posted by: DanielSkahen (Jun 13, 2007 12:45PM)
[quote]
On 2007-05-19 01:57, MDew wrote:
[quote]
On 2007-05-18 19:59, DanielSkahen wrote:
Born to Perform is the roll of bread they give you while you wait for your meal. Tasty but unnecessary, and altogether unfulfilling. Royal Road is the entree.
[/quote]

What would the main course and the dessert be?
[/quote]

My personal choice for desert would be an Expert Card Technique Lava Cake with Braue sauce and Hugard ice cream. But to each his own.
Message: Posted by: Ozer4 (Jun 13, 2007 09:45PM)
Hey,
I figured I'd chime in to answer your question. Royal Road to Card Magic and Expert Card Technique are a must. They are the books that got me started in card magic, as well as thousands before me. They are the classics and belong in your library if you are a student of card magic. For a more complete education, it's tough to beat Roberto Giobbi's Card College set. Born to Perform Card Magic is a compressed lesson on the fundamentals of card magic, as well as a number of routines utilizing the sleights, controls, forces, and flourishes you will learn on the DVD. It is not a substitute for any of the books listed above, but different people learn in different ways. You get to see live performances which are a great learning tool as well as confidence builder for beginners to help get you out there performing. Hope this helps!

Regards,
Oz
Message: Posted by: rjthomp (Jun 16, 2007 10:59PM)
Lots of people are suggesting royal road and expert card technique, which are not bad choices, but if you have a few extra bucks, the Card College series are a much better way to go. You can come up to speed must faster with this set than any other books, so if time is money, this path is actually cheaper in the long run... And they are perfectly suited for the serious beginner...
Message: Posted by: Doc Magic (Jun 17, 2007 11:33AM)
I strongly agree with the above statement. Learning magic shouldn't be rushed, with that in mind; the five volume Card College series is a meticulous step-wise lesson plan in learning card magic. At the end of each chapter you are presented with one or two effects that employ the slights taught in that chapter. In my humble opinion, you will reference these books for the rest of your life.
Message: Posted by: tnscot (Jun 19, 2007 09:59PM)
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to answer this question. Special thanks to Oz for sounding off honestly about it. Sounds like a worthy investment, but perhaps not until I have a couple of other fundies in my library.
Message: Posted by: DanielSkahen (Jun 19, 2007 10:22PM)
I'll say this for my experience with Oz and his products: he's the real deal. He serves straight, honest, quality magic. And although I wouldn't recommend Born to Perform as the first stop for a beginner, I do recommend a lot of his work, particularly Emerge Triumphant and the recently released Blindsided.
Message: Posted by: Piz (Jun 19, 2007 11:11PM)
Born to Perform is an excellent DVD, I highly recommend it!! I constantly find myself going back to it. I own Royal Road, BTP, and Card college; and even though Born to Perform isn't as technical or does not have as much info as the others, it still has it's flourishes, false cuts/shuffles, and some routines that I find more to fit the style of magic more so then the others. Two of the main false shuffles I do I learned off of the Born to Perform DVD, 3 great routines I do at my gigs I learned off of this DVD!! I highly recommend it for what it's worth! $30, can't beat it (I honestly would have paid $50)!!

Paul
Message: Posted by: magician8 (Jun 22, 2007 04:26PM)
Born to perform is good, but only if you're a beginner or so, if not you can get other dvds already said above which will give you a better knowledge and understanding of card magic.


A.S.E
Message: Posted by: LauraCalder (Jun 26, 2007 07:50AM)
I like to think of learning card magic as a series of moments involving studying, performing, and basking in the success of those performances. Those successes give you the momentum to go deeper into the craft. However, I started with Royal Road to Card Magic but initially that alone didn't give me effects exciting enough to feel confident performing in front of people, so I bought some DVDs and Born to Perform was one of them. Although it didn't have the detail or prestige of a book like RRTCM it gave me a few powerful tricks that I showed a few people which really enthused me to pursue the art further. Now, after a few volumes of Card College, I'm an above average cardician.

So, essentially, if you're looking for a great learning 'buzz', I'd definitely recommend Born to Perform - but, as others have said, it won't provide the solid bedrock of RRTCM or Giobbi's Card College.

Laura
Message: Posted by: DaddyDoodle (Jun 26, 2007 10:11PM)
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Born to perform is good, but only if you're a beginner or so, if not you can get other dvds already said above which will give you a better knowledge and understanding of card magic.
[/quote]

This IS, after all, the "New to Magic?" forum.....
Message: Posted by: DaddyDoodle (Jun 26, 2007 10:14PM)
Again - good (some may even say GREAT) stuff - esPECIALLY for a beginner. If you're wanting some real world tips and simple, straightforward instruction - Oz is a good teacher.

As magicians, everyone has an opinion on what it takes to "be a magician;" however, it is not necessary to be a master magician and need to master every sleight or trick or pass, etc. (including covering everything in RRTCM or Card College) to be a good magician. Yes, I know I'm opening myself up here, but this is a beginners forum, and a beginner asked if it was a good DVD. For the most part, a simple "yes" or "no" would suffice.
Message: Posted by: elgranmago (Jun 26, 2007 10:54PM)
I owe a lot to that DVD and to Oz Pearlman. It brought me into card magic. Thanks Oz.

I wish there were an equivalent for coins.

José.
Message: Posted by: john_herm (Jun 27, 2007 09:14AM)
[quote]
On 2007-06-26 23:54, elgranmago wrote:
I owe a lot to that DVD and to Oz Pearlman. It brought me into card magic. Thanks Oz.

I wish there were an equivalent for coins.

José.
[/quote]

Now, Penguin has "In the Beginning There Were Coins," by Jay Noblezada. I heard it was excellent, but you still can't beat Bobo's Modern Coin Magic. ;)
Message: Posted by: jmuscold (Aug 5, 2007 08:07PM)
I think born to perform is a great dvd if you want to learn just what is needed to do some great tricks.

I think it would motivate a new person, where as the royal road is a much longer journey to get some results.