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Topic: Origin of confabulation?
Message: Posted by: thoughtsexplorer (Jul 10, 2007 11:26AM)
... maybe I am wrong, but I was sure that it was first described in Warlock's Pentragram.
Don't find it anymore.
I have the original magazines, which have no index.
Does anyone have the reprinted books (there should possibly be an index)
and could help me?
Message: Posted by: coupcoupdaddy (Jul 10, 2007 02:09PM)
No Index in first two volumes.
Message: Posted by: piefke666 (Jul 10, 2007 02:19PM)
And not in the digital :(
Message: Posted by: corpmagi (Jul 10, 2007 02:37PM)
The routine is credited to Alan Shaxons. It's not in either of his hard backed books. I think it was sold as a separate item.

Ron Wilson has a routine in his big book (The Uncanny Scot) and there are marketed versions as well. You can find the best marketed version (IMO) here: http://www.uniquemagiccollection.com/KenBrookeSC.htm along with a DVD of Shaxon explaining his routine.
Message: Posted by: Christopher Caldwell (Jul 10, 2007 04:13PM)
Al Koran's routine appears in the October 1948 edition of the Pentagram, in "A Letter from Al Koran." This prediction-in-a-sealed-envelope-in-a wallet appears again as "AL Koran's Dream Car" in Warlock's New Pentagram in 1971, Volume 2, Number 12, page 106. In the original description, Koran used the idea of predicting a number, color, and city. Later he used the idea of predicting a "dream holiday." In the end, he use the "dream car" presentation.

Hope it helps,
Christopher
Message: Posted by: thoughtsexplorer (Jul 11, 2007 09:18AM)
Fellows,

thanks a lot for taking time looking up through the books or digital stuff.
Christopher: Bullseye!
Message: Posted by: Cardinal Bunal (Jul 11, 2007 07:10PM)
What's the lay man's term for confabulation?
Message: Posted by: docsteve (Jul 11, 2007 07:18PM)
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On 2007-07-11 20:10, Cardinal Bunal wrote:
What's the lay man's term for confabulation?
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Literally? Not sure. To all extents, - Bull ****!

It's a medical term, concerning a kind of covering up/deflection that certain brain-damaged individuals do in response to direct questions. Often seen in those with mild to moderate dementia or after a stroke; casual listening sounds fine, but on closer examination the afflicted person is talking absolute bollox, yet sounding plausible.
It's an utterly fascinating phenomenon, demonstrating both lack-of and yet evidence-of higher brain function.
Message: Posted by: whyjay (Jul 15, 2007 03:49PM)
How the original effect looks to the audience? Is it a prediction type effect?
Message: Posted by: gabelson (Jul 15, 2007 07:10PM)
Love Mark Strivings' version "Confabulous Vacation" on Vol. 3 of "Desert Brainstorm". Everything makes sense, and the ending is nothing short of a miracle to the spec.
Message: Posted by: parmenion (Jul 16, 2007 04:28AM)
Yes,Strivings has a very good version !
I like the passeport wallet.
I hope it will be release
Message: Posted by: gabelson (Jul 16, 2007 04:16PM)
The passport wallet WAS released-- made by Scotty York, and is no longer being sold (as far as I know). It's very hard to find one, these days. I wish it would be re-released!
Message: Posted by: Malchat (Jul 16, 2007 04:27PM)
Why not do it with a standard H-wallet?
Message: Posted by: Hill (Jul 16, 2007 04:43PM)
If you go to your nearest 'corporate gift' specialist, or professional printers/stationers - they can usually offer a service of placing gold printing on all manner of items. I had mine do it on a standard H wallet, so I could do confabulous vacation - I got him a template of the british coat of arms (usually on the front of our passport) and he made me a super version for super cheap.
Message: Posted by: jholland (Mar 16, 2008 01:33PM)
I have the Scotty York passport wallet but no materials. Does anyone know where I can locate written materials? I understand that Scotty had some pretty good explanations as to why you are carrying around a passport wallet. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: ELima (Mar 16, 2008 05:00PM)
Jholland

For this particular version of Confabulation you can either seek the book 'Constructive Mentalism' or the DVD 'Desert Brainstorm Vol. 2'.
Both cover the same routine and with Mark Strivings.

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