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Topic: Hans Klok show to close
Message: Posted by: Caveat Lector (Oct 19, 2007 10:47AM)
Well, as might be expected I just heard that his show will be closing on December 8th, so any of you who want to see it you better do it quickly.
Message: Posted by: Blair Marshall (Oct 19, 2007 10:54AM)
Too bad, any cited reason? That will be about 6 months.

Blair Marshall
"ShaZzam!"
Message: Posted by: M-Illusion (Oct 19, 2007 11:16AM)
I think that was all the run was slated for.
Message: Posted by: John Martin (Oct 19, 2007 11:17AM)
Couldn't have seen that coming!!! Lasted longer then others though.

John
Message: Posted by: Caveat Lector (Oct 19, 2007 12:59PM)
I have not heard any reasons for it closing but if their contract was up and they are not pulling the numbers they need then that would be one reason. I heard from some friends that are involved that their numbers are pretty low. Plus, they are paying out 1 million a month to Pam Anderson, and that is a pretty big nut to crack every month.
Message: Posted by: Irish_matt (Oct 19, 2007 01:54PM)
Actually I heard the original run was for only 3 months with Pam being paid $3M for her appearance, plus the use of a private jet and a penthouse suite for the length of the contract. The contract was then extended an extra three months to run through December.

One of the reasons why the run was to end then was Hans had dates already booked in Europe in December and had to fulfill those obligations. I'm sure El Rafeal could fill us in if there were any details available.

Matt
Message: Posted by: Mystical Matthew (Oct 19, 2007 10:16PM)
I've not seen Hans Klok's show... I don't know anything about him as a performer.

I do however think that Pam Anderson probably hurt him more than she helped. Not that she had a sterling reputation to begin with, but she's been in the news for some pretty off-color stuff recently.

She went from giving "favors" to pay off a poker debt to marrying the guy who was in that Paris Hilton "video".

I suspect even the best performer, even in Vegas, would have trouble overcoming that kind of stigma...
Message: Posted by: Irish_matt (Oct 20, 2007 09:46AM)
Actually.. I think Pam helped Hans Klok. He's pretty much a nobody in the US media and, with her, managed to make it on shows like Good Morning America, Ellen, Conan O'brien.. I think even Leno. Without Pam, be would have been opening in Vegas without any national fanfare and would just have been the new guy on the strip for a short 6 week run. I think she was certainly a step up from Carmen Electra as regards the national media. Had she truly hurt the show she would have been axed prior to the contract extension to save the production money.

Now Hans Klok can return to Vegas as a headliner himself another time. But remember, he doesn't necessarily need Vegas to attract crowds. This guy is huge in Europe. He is constantly touring. I remember being in Munich in 2004 and there were posters everywhere for him.
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Nov 12, 2007 12:12PM)
I recently saw the Klok show.

The theatre was HUGE and 50% is a lot of people. Its a huge production with some amazing lighting and theatrical effects. It was one of the better shows I saw but did have a few things that made me scratch my head. There are two large projection screens on either side of the stage. Hans does some card manip and other small effects like a floating rose routine. These effects are LOST on the audience because they are dwarfed by the stage. Why wouldn't they use these screens to show these effects better?

Pamela and the stupid sex jokes laid the biggest egg I have ever seen on stage. Nobody thought they were funny. Pamela was a joke and may have lent some fame to the show but no beauty or talent. The woman playing the evil temptress was much sexier and she was fully clothed.

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: Johnnie Blaze (Nov 12, 2007 12:36PM)
Ouch Tim that was a little harsh on our Canadian princess now wasnt it?
I for one believe that Klok will now return to europe ad be even bigger then ever he probably will have a movie about his vegas run and his career will skyrocket thanks to Pammy j/k . smart people in his camp forsure
John
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Nov 12, 2007 01:04PM)
[quote]
On 2007-11-12 13:36, Johnnie Blaze wrote:
Ouch Tim that was a little harsh on our Canadian princess now wasnt it?
I for one believe that Klok will now return to europe ad be even bigger then ever he probably will have a movie about his vegas run and his career will skyrocket thanks to Pammy j/k . smart people in his camp forsure
John
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Hi John,

Actually Pam is now American as well so Canada can't lay right to her exclusively. LOL

I think the famous name was good for the shows promotion and will benefit Hans but I'm telling you man... she dragged the show down. The audience agreed with me. I forgot to mention.. she exposed the vanishing flower pot by describing how it worked to the audience as part of her spiel. Here role was mostly standing on stage saying corny jokes to Hans like Cher used to do to Sonny Bono. (but Chers were funny..LOL)

A volunteer from the audience easily topped here spiel. When he came on stage Hans said..." You know Miss Anderson don't you?" and his response was " Only from the videos" and the audience erupted in laughter.

Her lines seemed really scripted and were delivered poorly. She looked trashy and cheap rather than sexy or classy. Even her costume was poor.

The rest of the show had great production value in it. It was half broadway and half a magic show. There was an evil temptress in it similar to the evil queen in the S&R show and she was beautiful, dramatic and sexy.

I enjoyed the show as did all who attended with me. I agree Pam gave it PR attention but with that said .. she did nothing for its word of mouth. We both know that you can spend lots of money on promotion but word of mouth is ultimately going to save you or kill you.

Hans was great and I'm sure he walk away a winner. I doubt you'll see anyone else hire Pam for their magic show. LOL

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: SpellbinderEntertainment (Nov 12, 2007 03:12PM)
If this is closeing it confirms there is a god...
Anyone want to buy a used wind-machine <grin>.

Walt
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Nov 12, 2007 03:20PM)
Hi Walt,

The wind seems to be one of Hans' signature things. When you walk into the theatre a wind machine blows your hair.

Its a shame this show is closing as I thought it was good other than the issues I mentioned earlier. My favorite was Hans doing his famous spiker routine. It was fantastic to see that signature piece done and it played well with the audience also.

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: Keith Jozsef (Nov 12, 2007 07:35PM)
I agree with Tim about the lame sex jokes etc... Pamela's presence could have used in a much more productive way.

I saw the show about a month and a half ago...I couldn't get over how many illusions Hans BURNED through during the whole production. However, it seemed to fit his high-energy style. Although, I couldn't help thinking to myself "I think that effect might play stronger if it were just slowed down...and perhaps given a better verbal build-up."

But that would probably not work best for Hans (who incidentally, had a better grasp of the language than I was expecting.).....At least he's better than Wyrick.

Keith Jozsef
Message: Posted by: Laszlo Csizmadi (Nov 12, 2007 08:16PM)
Here you can see his blowing hair. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Dt2IqcoNk
Message: Posted by: montemagic (Nov 13, 2007 03:49PM)
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On 2007-11-12 21:16, laci200 wrote:
Here you can see his blowing hair. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Dt2IqcoNk
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For some reason his hair thing bothers me. Must be jealousy.
Message: Posted by: IllusionJack (Nov 13, 2007 07:22PM)
The audience volunteer that says "Only from the videos" to Pamela says that at every performance.

--Jack :pepsi:
Message: Posted by: MagicMax7 (Nov 17, 2007 01:39PM)
I perform my manipulation act every day literally in the same building that Hans Klok's show runs in. I have seen the show twice and have been exposed to it's marketing virtually every day of my life since the show opened. I do know that the show was only slated to run for a predetermined length of time. The fact that it's closing just means that the time is up. Hans had a number of huge obstacles to contend with from the very beginning. Number one is no name recognition. Huge problem in today's age. Solution: Pamela Anderson. I think this was actually genius. Here you have an act without celebrity combining with a celebrity without an act. It definately raised the profile of the show almost immediately. I've talked to people involved with the show and they told me that even though Pam might be attracting eyes to the show people weren't necessarily buying tickets because of her. Which I take as a good sign that people, in the end, wanted to see a new magic show not just 38EEs. The second big problem of the show is the size of the house. When the Theatre for Performing Arts was first built at the old Aladdin I believe it was the largest theatre in the entire world. It was the only thing left untouched when the casino was imploded to make way for the new Aladdin and eventually the Planet Hollywood. It holds somewhere in the neighborhood of 4,600 seats! I'm sorry, but David Copperfield would even feel a little daunted by trying to fill a room that size. Even though they block off a few sections it is still a lot of distance to bridge between you and your audience. That being said I feel he did it as about as good as you could in that situation. The last and probably the most glaring problem is that the show never quite knew what it wanted to be. If you've seen the show you know what I'm talking about. There are about three different storylines running at the same time during the show and it never really committed to any of them. In the same vein I thought his effect selection was definately his weakest link. I had non-magician friends who saw the show all ask me 'Why did he do the same trick four times' refering to the fact that he did essentially four different versions of metamorphosis.

All of the negative things aside I actually enjoyed the show. He didn't really do anything that new for magic but who cares? Everything he did perform was presented in a technically perfect manner. His card manips were pretty tight, although a little rushed and forced. His 'witty' banter between he and Pam is kind of endearing at times but painfully flat at others. His dancers were incredible. The team he's surrounded himself with really is top notch. Everybody really knows what they're doing. Right down to his graphic design person (his ads I think are fantastic). At the end of the day...you like him. Even through all of his hair poses and thick accent you are genuinely rooting for the guy. He's a good looking guy and has a definate presence when he's on stage. We've talked on a number of occasions and he really is one of the nicest guys in this business I know. Personally I think magic will be moving in a new direction soon and he kind of represents the last of the big flashy over-the-top illusionists. With so much money behind him I was really hoping for something a little more...inspired. I wish him all the luck in the world.
Message: Posted by: Christopher Starr (Nov 17, 2007 05:32PM)
Great post MagicMax!
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Nov 17, 2007 08:40PM)
Isn't that wonderful..not only is the Delage's Fastest Trick ripped off but it is exposed.

The publicity Hans has generated from this will serve him very well in the years to come.

Richard
Message: Posted by: longhaired1 (Nov 18, 2007 03:16AM)
[quote]
On 2007-11-12 13:36, Johnnie Blaze wrote:
Ouch Tim that was a little harsh on our Canadian princess now wasnt it?

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Not harsh enough in my opinion.

I included my thoughts about Ms Anderson's appearance here:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/search_post.php?topic=212905&forum=7&post=5141841

RE: The wind machine:

He only blow-dried his hair once on the night I saw him. Granted it was one too many times, but that type of thing didn't dominate the show.

Whatever wind his fan blew into the show, Anderson sucked an equal amount of wind out of it.
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Nov 18, 2007 11:17PM)
His show is overkill and lacks the most important: Emotion
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Nov 18, 2007 11:20PM)
I'd rather do 9-15 well performed illusions instead of 60+.....
There is this saying about chocolate and sex...
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Nov 18, 2007 11:25PM)
[quote]
On 2007-11-17 21:40, hugmagic wrote:
Isn't that wonderful..not only is the Delage's Fastest Trick ripped off but it is exposed.

The publicity Hans has generated from this will serve him very well in the years to come.

Richard
[/quote]

He is the Thurston of the new Millenia and Master Illusionist Guy Jarret called Thurston a :clownjuggling:
Message: Posted by: Banester (Nov 19, 2007 02:47PM)
Silvio, do you think the lack of emotion and the multitude of tricks was because of the language barrier? Or is that his style?

I know some people that can act very well, but forget about pulling off a trick haha. And I have seen a lot of the opposite where the trick is performed well, just like a robot would do it with about as much emotion. I was heading out to Vegas this spring, I was hoping to see the show at least once.

While a celebrity is good to bring in some recognition you really have to pick someone who is not know just for the healthy lungs.
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Nov 19, 2007 03:29PM)
Yes, look at the early Henning and Copperfield productions. That is what an illusion show should look like. I consider myself a dream merchant who transports the audience for an hour or two into a world where hopes and wishes are fullfilled.

Someone just good looking who rattles off one after the other, somebody here at the Caf did count over 80 illusions, is totally missing the point of this business.

I agree 100% to what Doug Henning said.
Message: Posted by: Oliver - Twist (Nov 20, 2007 07:18AM)
Silvio,

I agree with you. Maybe the audience has changed with the time and today they're looking more for some stunning illusions fast paced, rather than emotional pieces telling stories and trying to "realize" human dreams. A good show has some from everything.
I think it depends sometimes on the audience : age, culture, educations, influences. For exemple in France,people always want to know how you've done, even though the magic has a strong story and emotions invloved. In Germany, the United Kingdom and the United States of America, people just like to have "fun".

Oliver.
Message: Posted by: Caveat Lector (Dec 3, 2007 11:24AM)
Well, I just got home from Vegas and with much hesitation I went to this show. To tell you the truth I was not looking forward to seeing 40 illusion thrown at me in 90 minutes. I went with my girlfriend who from being with me knows a little about tech but not too much. I agree with Tim that her costume was just aweful and that she gave away what I think was a very good trick was a bit stupid. My girl even turned to me and asked "is that how it was really done?" She was a bit surprised and then dissapointed because she really liked it and did not want to know.

Now, on to what I thought of the show. The dancing was a bit Broadway, and being from NYC I have seen quite a bit of this. It could have been a bit shorter but hey it seemed to work and break up al the illusions. The lighting was just fantastic and the production value was very good. The girls he used in the illusions were great and the "evil" girl, which I believe is his main assistant was just great. Pam gets all the press but these girls are the heart and soul of this show. The dance sequence with the cheese wheels was sort of funny, but I am not sure everyone got that they were chees wheels. The fan blowing on you when you go into the theater made me laugh, but only because I am familar with Hans. He did not use the fan as much as I expected in the show. He does A LOT of over posing, but I think that has something to do with where he comes from and his very 80's style.

The illusions were all very good and although he performs them very fast they are performed well, the people around me were loving them. It does say in his promo that he is the worlds fastest illusionst and he lives up to it. Overall I did with much hesitation enjoy the show as I love illusions and it was nice to see an entire catalog of them performed. I went to P & T a few nights earlier and much to my dissapointment did not enjoy their show as much as I did Klok's. Now, before you get all crazy, I am a P & T fan but the show as lacking a bit for me. There was a few great effects in their show, but overall not a great show. But, that review is best left for another post. I would say that if you are going to Vegas take the time and see this show as I think it is worth the time to see it. The theatre is huge and quite frankly I think it is too big for this show but it is a very nice room.
Message: Posted by: AVLD (Dec 8, 2007 11:45PM)
Tim, just to fill in some background about the screens held in the hands either side of the stage. The hand screens are originally a hang over from the European tour as it played arena venues and they provided close ups of what was going on onstage. They were not really needed for Las Vegas ( as most of the audience were not really that far away from the stage ) but they stayed, although half way through the run, the live video was cut and only the logo and movies remained. I guess it was to save money when it was not really needed.

Today ( Dec 8th ) is their last 2 shows and I am very sad it has come to an end. I worked as the lighting designer for the show and was very proud of what we all achieved on the show. It was a long journey from starting just over a year ago rehearsing for the European tour in a cold TV studio in Holland to a amazing experience working in Las Vegas.
Message: Posted by: reynold (Dec 9, 2007 09:01AM)
Caveat Lector:

What secret did Pamela expose on the show?

Reynold
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Dec 9, 2007 10:18AM)
[quote]
On 2007-12-09 10:01, reynold wrote:
Caveat Lector:

What secret did Pamela expose on the show?

Reynold
[/quote]

She exposed the Vanishing Flower Pot.

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: Caveat Lector (Dec 9, 2007 11:07AM)
[quote]
On 2007-12-09 10:01, reynold wrote:
Caveat Lector:

What secret did Pamela expose on the show?

Reynold
[/quote]

Yes, it was the vanishing flower pot, which as a younger magician I worked with a magiian named Jack Adams and it was always one of my favorites. It was a shame to see it just thrown under the bus for a cheap laugh.
Message: Posted by: Caveat Lector (Dec 9, 2007 11:09AM)
[quote]
On 2007-12-09 00:45, AVLD wrote:
Tim, just to fill in some background about the screens held in the hands either side of the stage. The hand screens are originally a hang over from the European tour as it played arena venues and they provided close ups of what was going on onstage. They were not really needed for Las Vegas ( as most of the audience were not really that far away from the stage ) but they stayed, although half way through the run, the live video was cut and only the logo and movies remained. I guess it was to save money when it was not really needed.

Today ( Dec 8th ) is their last 2 shows and I am very sad it has come to an end. I worked as the lighting designer for the show and was very proud of what we all achieved on the show. It was a long journey from starting just over a year ago rehearsing for the European tour in a cold TV studio in Holland to a amazing experience working in Las Vegas.
[/quote]

I must say that if you were the lighting designer that you did a fantastic job. I really enjoyed the lighting and it really did make the show look very good.
Message: Posted by: magicfreak_NV (Dec 9, 2007 11:49AM)
I must also jump in and say the lighting was amazing!

can you PM me your contact info?

would like to hire you to do some lighting designs.
Message: Posted by: AVLD (Dec 9, 2007 08:45PM)
Thank you for your compliment. I had a great time doing the show. It was my first magic show and in the process learnt a lot about lighting for magic. We had great consultants Rafael and Don Wayne who were always on hand to help.You can find out more about my design work on my website http://www.avld.com ( there are a few pictures from the Las Vegas show ).
Message: Posted by: reynold (Dec 9, 2007 10:07PM)
Hello, whats the purpose for the exposure?
Thanks,
Reynold
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Dec 9, 2007 10:18PM)
[quote]
On 2007-12-09 23:07, reynold wrote:
Hello, whats the purpose for the exposure?
Thanks,
Reynold
[/quote]

A very cheap laugh. Which it didn't get.

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: Caveat Lector (Dec 10, 2007 11:35AM)
The only cheap thing in that show was her look. Now don't get me wrong, I love a good slutty assistants outfit but she just did nothing for the show. Other than help with marketing.
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Dec 10, 2007 11:41AM)
[quote]
On 2007-12-09 21:45, AVLD wrote:
Thank you for your compliment. I had a great time doing the show. It was my first magic show and in the process learnt a lot about lighting for magic.
[/quote]

It was obvious you had never lit a magic show before. I've never seen lighting like that in a magic show ever. I was sitting in the audience with about 5 other magicians and we were all impressed with the fresh/original look of the lighting. It really took the show up quite a few notches. Well done!

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: Christopher Starr (Dec 10, 2007 12:07PM)
Incredible looking stuff judging from the photos alone.

Bravo Andrew!

Chris
Message: Posted by: The Drake (Dec 10, 2007 12:11PM)
Chris,

The photos don't do it justice. The cool part was the way that entire racks of lights were flown in and out during the show. Not only did the lights move but the rigging/trussing the lights were connected to moved as well. It made the entire stage seem alive somewhat. That probably sounds strange but that's how it seemed to me. LOL

Best,

Tim
Message: Posted by: JoyJoy (Dec 21, 2007 12:02PM)
[quote]The wind seems to be one of Hans' signature things. [/quote]

You have to be well-known to be parodied:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye7K104iFgo