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Topic: Mark Wilson's son, Greg
Message: Posted by: MagiClyde (Nov 11, 2007 12:46PM)
I was watching Mark Wilson's video course on magic, as I am presently archiving them from tape to DVD.

In some of the clips, his son performs for the studio audience. I know there's a Greg Wilson, who does stuff for Ellusionist and Penguin. Is it the same guy? If not, what happened to Mark's son? What is he doing today?
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Nov 11, 2007 02:24PM)
GregORY Wilson isn't Mark's son, if that's what you're asking...

Steve
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Nov 11, 2007 03:03PM)
If you want to know what Mark Wilson's son, Greg, is doing, there's one way to find out:

http://www.markwilsonmagic.com/

Send Mark an e-mail and ask.
Message: Posted by: Moxahalla (Nov 12, 2007 05:59PM)
Originally, there were/are two WELL-KNOWN magicians:

U.F. "Gen" Grant
and
Greg Wilson (Mark's son)

....why "the other" Gregory Wilson of today, and "the other" General Grant of today, haven't changed or tweaked their names to avoid confusion is a mystery to me.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Nov 15, 2007 05:57AM)
The other "General Grant" is a given birth name. I suspect the same is true in the Greg Wilson case.

Magic is not like the movies, where you cannot have the same name as another or previous star. Hence, the junior tag on so many names. I think it is part of the Screen Actor's Guild rules.

Richard
Message: Posted by: Steven True (Nov 25, 2007 04:29AM)
Ok, I may be a little slow, but I don't see what Greg is doing right now. I am one of those out of the loop guys that thought it was Gregory Wilson, not Greg Wilson. Does Greg have his own website, or am I just not reading this right? That is a possibility.
I got into magic because of Mark Wilson. I am finding out that a lot of magicians don't really publicly recognize Mr. Wilson as being the Magic that he was. I know that may sound strange, but it is the way I read things. I met Mark Wilson in 1980 at the SAM convention in Pasadena, and he was up to then and way beyond a big influence in my magical life. I got out of magic for a lot of years and, when I got back into it, I heard the name Gregory Wilson and just thought it was Mr. Wilson's son.
Ok, now I am really confused. If any of this post makes sense, please someone set me straight. What is Greg Wilson up to these days? Is he still involved with magic?
I am really trying to find out. Please help out an old timer with a memory that is not that great.

Thanks,
Steven
Message: Posted by: Moxahalla (Nov 27, 2007 06:03PM)
Greg Wilson (Mark's son) is very much involved with being a videographer (i.e. making videos & lectures on same). He attended USC Film School.

How actively he is now at PERFORMING magic, I don't know....but as stated above, why don't you ask Mark himself?

...or check the Internet for Greg's website (I'm sure he has one).
Message: Posted by: Rennie (Nov 27, 2007 10:13PM)
Mark also had another son named Mike Wilson, not involved in front of the camera. Greg married a really beautiful girl (I believe of German descent). The two produced a video (which I have) titled "The Magic of the Wilson's". What he is doing at this moment, check with his father as stated above. I am sure it is magic related, though.
Rennie
Message: Posted by: Steven True (Nov 27, 2007 11:37PM)
I really never thought about going directly to the source. Thanks for the tip, and I will look to see if he has a website, and I will try and send an email to Mr. Wilson. I am 50yrs old and still call him Mr. Wilson. I have that much respect and admiration for him. Like I said, I got into magic because of seeing him perform. I always wanted to do his "Alakazam Railroad". Was always one of my favorites. Anyway, thanks for the tips.

Happy Magic,
Steven
Message: Posted by: Steven True (Nov 28, 2007 01:15AM)
I actually found Greg's web site. Looks good, and it looks like he is pretty active.
For those of you that might want to look:
http://www.wilsonmagic.com/bio/index.html
Message: Posted by: Father Photius (Nov 28, 2007 01:49AM)
[quote]
On 2007-11-25 05:29, StevenMT wrote:
Ok, I may be a little slow, but I don't see what Greg is doing right now. I am one of those out of the loop guys that thought it was Gregory Wilson, not Greg Wilson. Does Greg have his own website, or am I just not reading this right? That is a possibility.
I got into magic because of Mark Wilson. I am finding out that a lot of magicians don't really publicly recognize Mr. Wilson as being the Magic that he was. I know that may sound strange, but it is the way I read things. I met Mark Wilson in 1980 at the SAM convention in Pasadena, and he was up to then and way beyond a big influence in my magical life. I got out of magic for a lot of years and, when I got back into it, I heard the name Gregory Wilson and just thought it was Mr. Wilson's son.
Ok, now I am really confused. If any of this post makes sense, please someone set me straight. What is Greg Wilson up to these days? Is he still involved with magic?
I am really trying to find out. Please help out an old timer with a memory that is not that great.

Thanks,
Steven
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A lot of people think Houdini and Blackstone were two-bit magicians too, and think David Blaine is one of the all time greats. It is a generational thing. You have to remember Mark's prime time on TV was between 1953 and 1965. Magicland of Alakazam, his main exposure to the public, went off the air over 40 years ago. After that he largely had a few Magic Circus specials, and a few syndicated shorts in local markets. He primarily did corporate magic after that time. Plus, he provided consultation to movies, TV, theme parks, and got a lot of folks into trade show magic. So people under 40 years old aren't even likely to remember Mark. Their influence would be Henning, Copperfield, Angel, Blaine, etc.
Mark will be the first to tell you that he was no "great" magician. His illusions were mostly created by others, Nani did most of the work of the magic, and Mark ran around waving his arms and taking the bow. He had input into the Complete Course in Magic, but it was largely written by Walter Gibson who ghosted many a magic book for other magicians, including Uncle Harry.
Mark's big influence in magic was his use of his knowledge of marketing from his marketing degree from SMU. The vaudeville venue, which had been magic's hey day through the '40s, was dying. TV didn't want magicians. TV executives were convinced magic wouldn't work on TV, that people would suspect camera tricks. Mark might not have been the first magician on TV, but he was the first magician to figure out how to get TV to buy magic and magicians. He learned to market with magic, getting sponsors such as Dr. Pepper, Neuhoff, Frito's, 3M, and Pillsbury to sponsor his TV efforts and, in exchange, used magic to market their products.
In a lot of ways, you could say that Mark invented trade show magic and corporate magic. Now some would argue that he might not have been the first in those fields, but the reality is he turned those fields into big venues and big moneymakers for magicians. He brought modern marketing to magic and sold Magic to TV. As far as the three major U.S. networks go, Mark is the only magician to have a regular major network series that was magic, and not variety with an occasional magic. And to date, no one else has managed that feat. Mark getting elected one of the 10 most influential magicians of the 20th Century by the readers of Magic Magazine was no fluke. He did have a major influence on magic.
How one defines "great magician" is in the eyes of the beholder. Some swear by Houdini; some swear Houdini was a great publicity-maker, but a hack magician. Some shout Thurston, Blackstone, Dante, Henning, or someone else. Why, these were the magicians they felt some link to, or who in some way influenced their getting involved in magic.
Mark definitely has his place in magic, and he has been one of its major influences. He influenced me too, way back in 1953, when he was doing his twice per week, 15 min. Time for Magic on local Dallas, TX, television. Influenced me so much that, a couple of years later, I tried to convince Uncle Harry (Blackstone, SR.) that he needed to learn magic from Mark Wilson. And while a relative of Blackstone, and having met him, and even being instructed by him, I still consider Mark the greatest influence on my magic. You won't recognize any of Mark in my magic. I've had 50 years to work on it and make it my own. But the influence is there, and he is still one of my dearest friends.
So don't feel so many are down on Mark. Most aren't old enough to know who he is or what he did. And don't put down their hero, either. Every magician makes his mark on magic and has his influence on those who get into it. You and I have our heroes, let them have theirs.
And Mark's son, Greg, has always used the stage name of Greg Wilson. Gregory Wilson, a different magician, has used Gregory Wilson to differentiate himself from Mark's son when Mark's son was still performing as an illusionist.
Message: Posted by: Steven True (Nov 30, 2007 01:33AM)
You know, you seem to almost, always have it nailed. Well, here I feel you nailed it. Mr. Wilson was the major influence on me getting into magic. I met him one time, and he was more of a gentleman then I can even really describe. (Can you get the admiration in these words?) You know what really is a shame is that more of the new people don't know his name, or maybe just know that name but can not really put any face to it.
I so wish I could have known your uncle. A friend of mine did, named John Zeweers. He was my mentor and a major influence on my magic. You might not see the Mark Wilson in me, but you will see the old way of the show. The ladies dressed in nice clothes, the magician dressed very professional.
A side note here, I, in no way, am saying that Mark Wilson or any of his shows where the only way to dress or perform. I just fell in love with that era and still live in it as bad, or good, as that may be.
Mr. Wilson did so much for our art. He was the first performer to go to main land China and perform. He was the only one to have a nationally syndicated show for as long as he did.....Oh, how I miss those times. I guess one of my biggest problems is that I live in a time bubble. That is not always a bad thing.
I am glad to see that Greg is making his own name in the magic world. I hope to see him live someday. My regret is that I never got to see his father, or so many of the greats for that fact, perform live. I did get to see Blackstone, Jr. perform. WOW!!!! What a showman. And it was with about half his act in the shop for repairs. It is sad to see that the old touring shows are almost gone.
You are right about letting others have their due, Henning or any of the other bigs at the time.
I guess I just get into a time of remembrance, of my time that is, and I just digress. Oh well, it started out a thread about Greg Wilson, and I am not trying to turn it into a thread about his dad. Just my 2 cents here, folks. Sometime I make sense, and others I reread and think, "What in the world was I drinking when I posted?" ...LOL

Happy magic,
Steven
Message: Posted by: Dave Lewis (Dec 21, 2007 11:03PM)
I wouldn't be writing this if not for Mark Wilson. He is the sole reason I wanted to learn magic. When I was five, living in Houston, Texas, he had a local TV magic show that offered a trick of the week at 7-11. My dad caved in a let me get the trick one week, which was a ball and vase. That's what gave me the magic bug.

When I met Mark at the Magic Castle, I mentioned it to him and he was excited that I remembered what wound up being his first efforts in TV. He went on to the network with Alakazam after Houston, and I had no idea, at the time, his local show would mean so much to me and him. He became internationally famous and I sit here reading about it.
Message: Posted by: mdspark (Jan 24, 2008 07:12PM)
Just came across this thread and after reflecting back during the holidays on my 46 yrs of life..I felt compelled to add my thoughts here. Mark Wilson was THE reason I got into magic around the age of 11. I came across one of his Magic Circus TV specials quite by accident and my heart jump-up in my throat. One of the charming routines I witnessed was the color changing knives among other miracles... "WOW! How could anyone NOT want to learn to do that stuff!" I thought. From then on I was constantly on the look out for any other TV appearances and sometimes got lucky or a friend or relative would say "Hey, there is going to be a magician on....."...Merv Griffin, Johnny Carson, Mike Douglas...or whatever..and It was usually Mark Wilson!

THEN, the Bill Bixby series The Magician...and Mark Wilson the consultant making apearances there...While there were other things not going so well in my life at that age...because of Magic and Mark Wilson they were still special times of watching, learning, joy, and discovery! THEN I discovered The Magic Magazine (a short-lived over the counter for public consumption mag) and Genii with ads for the Mark Wilson Course in Magic!!!! WOW gotta have it!!! Saved my pennies and GOT IT!!!! My first shows were filled with tricks from that tome...

And so, Dave and Steve....I am right with you...Mark Wilson is another man I would like to meet and say "Thank you for introducing me to your wonderful world of magic and it has made all the difference in my Life."

Mark
Message: Posted by: Father Photius (Jan 24, 2008 09:02PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-24 20:12, mdspark wrote:

And so, Dave and Steve....I am right with you...Mark Wilson is another man I would like to meet and say "Thank you for introducing me to your wonderful world of magic and it has made all the difference in my Life."

Mark
[/quote]

Easy enough to do. Mark and Nani run the magic classes at the Magic Castle and are there frequently. An email to Nani on their website and she can give you times they are there. Mark is one very approachable man and would enjoy meeting you.
Message: Posted by: bhappie (Mar 27, 2008 11:41PM)
[quote]
On 2007-11-27 23:13, Rennie wrote:
Mark also had another son named Mike Wilson, not involved in front of the camera. Greg married a really beautiful girl (I believe of German descent). The two produced a video (which I have) titled "The Magic of the Wilson's". What he is doing at this moment, check with his father as stated above. I am sure it is magic related, though.
Rennie
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I worked with them once and if memory serves- She is russian and was in the Russian circus. That is how they met. She does a hulla hoop act that is pretty cool. She can spin so many hoops you can't see her. I can't come up with her name.....
Message: Posted by: bhappie (Mar 28, 2008 12:58PM)
I think it was Luna
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Mar 28, 2008 09:46PM)
You could always ask him: greg@wilsonmagic.com
Message: Posted by: Magic Mike Japan (May 15, 2008 04:43AM)
About three years ago I saw Mark Wilson's son, Greg, do a magic show on the Navy Base where I live and work in Yokosuka, Japan. He did a very nice 45-min. stage show with two cabaret ladies. He wasn't as polished as his dad, but a nice job nonetheless. I never saw him again over here in Japan. He did the Gene Anderson T&R Newspaper routine where he used the two girls to help him rip the paper, which I thought was a great idea.
Message: Posted by: Rennie (May 21, 2008 05:09PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-28 13:58, bhappie wrote:
I think it was Luna
[/quote]
Are you thinking of Luna Shimada maybe ?
Rennie
Message: Posted by: BCS (May 22, 2008 07:37PM)
Mark was the first magician that I truly idolized… His course in magic was my first investment in a serious magic book. I still have the original sponge balls (or squares) that came with it. While visiting a Magic Shop today, I discovered a used Genii magazine with Mark and Nani on the cover (VOL 40 # 3, MAR 1976), I had to buy it. I spent lunch reading it… what great memories it brought back.
Thanks,
Bruce
Message: Posted by: Xaa (Jun 19, 2015 09:21PM)
Updating this old thread with newer information for those interested, Mark Wilson's son Greg has a website:

http://www.gregwilson.com/Home.html
Message: Posted by: Leo H (Jun 29, 2015 09:40PM)
I met Mark and Nani at the MCW in Chicago back in May 2012. I had the opportunity to sit and chat with him and Nani for a bit and it was wonderful. A conversation with one of your childhood heroes is quite a strange experience. Years ago I remember reading that his son Greg was touring with an illusion show and that he had married an attractive Russian woman who was assisting him. Don't know how that played out.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Aug 10, 2015 01:32PM)
Greg is on Fool Penn & Teller tonight. He has turned into a wonderful performer, and like his family is a really nice guy.
Message: Posted by: Xaa (Aug 11, 2015 06:41PM)
The "Fool Us" appearance was great and the warm reception and surprises were wonderful. It can still be seen (at this writing) on the CW website as well as on Hulu.
Message: Posted by: David Todd (Aug 11, 2015 07:03PM)
[quote]On Aug 10, 2015, Pete Biro wrote:
Greg is on Fool Penn & Teller tonight. He has turned into a wonderful performer, and like his family is a really nice guy. [/quote]

http://www.cwtv.com/shows/penn-teller-fool-us/

Loved that ending to the wonderful Excalibur illusion, with Mark and Nani's surprise appearance from the cabinet. I'm sure the lay audience (in studio and at home) enjoyed the illusion, but unless they were of a certain age probably had no idea who these mysterious people were, but it was a great moment for magicians watching .

[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k8bhY-yBOXI/VcqMMX1COdI/AAAAAAAAKT4/glKEen0YKGs/s450-Ic42/The%252520Wilsons%252520with%252520P%252526T.jpg[/img]


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Message: Posted by: mormonyoyoman (Aug 23, 2015 07:36PM)
Greg Wilson is, in my personal experience, every bit the showman that his father and mother were/are. (With Nani, perhaps "showman" isn't the correct word, but I can't find a way to form that sentence without making it every bit as clunky as this parenthesis is.) He has some strong ideas of how to advance magic not only as an experience, but in its revitalization to the masses. The only problem I can see, is that he's experiencing such success as a performer now, that he would have to be three people with unlimited time and energy for the next 20 years.

*jeep! and God Bless! (Thanks, Red!)
---Grandpa Chet
Message: Posted by: danaruns (Mar 17, 2016 02:49PM)
Wonderful to come across this old thread. Mark, Nani and Greg Wilson are some of the finest human beings on the planet, completely apart from their substantial influence on magic and on me. I have taken magic classes from Mark and Nani at the Magic Castle, and I have to admit that Mark has been a gigantic influence on me. Greg has also been an occasional mentor to me, giving me all the little tips that can only be gotten from someone who is truly an expert in the craft. I don't think that the depth and breadth of Greg's knowledge and skill is anywhere near appreciated enough. Greg is still very active in magic, doing quite a bit of corporate work in addition to many other things. He's a busy guy, very in demand.

I loved seeing this thread. I consider the Wilsons the "first family of magic." And they are all such wonderful, kind, generous people that just by being on the planet they make it a better place. Also, as can be seen by reading this thread, they have had a deep and fundamental effect on the lives of many, many magicians. Loved reading this. :)

--Dana
Message: Posted by: EndersGame (Jul 10, 2018 08:46AM)
A delightful thread to read through in entirety - thanks to all the contributors.

To make matters more confusing, is magician Gregory Wilson (i.e. not Mark's son) ever referred to with the shorter form Greg? Or only and always with the full "Gregory"?

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I seem to recall coming across occasional references to him as "Greg" as well.
Message: Posted by: Ubernutz (Aug 7, 2018 09:03PM)
Mark does a course at the Magic Castle, he's a super nice guy
Message: Posted by: Vogler (Aug 20, 2018 02:14AM)
Mark Wilson was the reason to come back in magic after my first tricks. I bought his “video course in magic” when I was 20 and I was hooked again. I learned “self folding bill and got crazy reactions! A place in my heart :)