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Topic: Trinity Loop System
Message: Posted by: Brandon Johnson (Nov 12, 2007 09:03PM)
I recieved my Trinity loop system three days ago and I love it. The system itself is very well made but so is everything else Sebashtion creates. I had to watch the dvd two times before I understood fully how to make the loops but they are actually very easy to tie. If you are looking for a way to make loops quick and easy look no further. I don't own the millon dollar knot or any other type of loop tying system so I can't compare them but it would be really hard to beat the Trinty system.

Pros: loops in under 10 seconds.
Very nice looking system.
Two new very cool effects by Justin Miller.
A small spool of infinity thread.
Very well put together dvd.

Cons: I can't think of any.

-Brandon Johnson
Message: Posted by: A.J. (Nov 13, 2007 10:28AM)
Brad,
Who is currently selling this system?
Message: Posted by: Rudy Sanchez (Nov 13, 2007 11:25AM)
You can find it for sale here on the Café in the "For Sale" section. I am also including for free a spool of "Infinity" IET (this is a $25.00 value).

Thanks,

Rudy
Message: Posted by: Brandon Johnson (Nov 13, 2007 03:23PM)
You can find it on Sebashtion Houstons site. Heres a link subdividedstudios.com . Mr. Sanchez your Infinity IET is awesome....I still can't split thread very well and it takes me longer to split it than to make the loops but I'm working on it.
Message: Posted by: Rudy Sanchez (Nov 13, 2007 03:28PM)
Thanks Brandon,
I now offer single strand "Infinity" (same size as Mesika's "elastics")and 2 strand "Infinity" both are black w/ matte finish. Infinity is endorsed by some of the most famous working pros in the world and why not, it is the FINEST IET in the world!

Rudy
Message: Posted by: Brandon Johnson (Nov 13, 2007 03:34PM)
I agree that it is the finest IET in the world after working with it for a short period of time. The loops made with the Infinity IET are in my opion stronger and just as if not more ivisible than the ones that are premade.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 14, 2007 11:38PM)
You can buy from either Rudy or my self right now.....
my site is in the works but the order page is up and running..
we are (SUB-DIVIDED-STUDIOS) offering A chance win a strolling size Custom table thru the month of Nov... all orders are put in the give-away...GoodLuck
sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Magicman07 (Nov 15, 2007 03:07PM)
So wait... does this system come with the tyer, extra thread, and a few tricks or should I buy more thread and like a geurrilla guide to loops???
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 16, 2007 04:15PM)
You can use the thread that comes with the TLS but you are going to need more.
we offer the infinty roll and a 300ft spool of infinity thread pre stripped..

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 26, 2007 10:20PM)
Four days left to get in on the Table giveaway picking the winner on the 3rd.....
friday is the deadline

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 30, 2007 11:15PM)
Update heres the table trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zknbBxPGp08

sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Dec 21, 2007 01:15PM)
Just wanted to say Merry Christmas to all here on the Café and hope all is well with you and yours thru this great holiday and new year.

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: calen (Dec 31, 2007 11:04PM)
I got mine,,,Was surprised as soon as see. Why?
Was small than ideas. Like.
DVD Played,,,confused.(Because of angle window very small)
But, understood justly.
Creat loop.
already,,,Is doing routine of Justin Miller.
There is value of money.
Now, Don't discount event~
If you like loop,,,must have it.
Two thumb up!
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Jan 4, 2008 04:16AM)
Thanks for the comments on the TLS......

if you need anything shoot me an email......

Sebashtion H.
sebashtion@subdividedstudios.com
Message: Posted by: KidMagic (Jan 8, 2008 08:03PM)
Sounds pretty good I might check it out.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Jan 16, 2008 05:24PM)
One of these days I will have a working web page.........
any one near tampa want to trade a TLS for flash web page work?????????

sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Feb 10, 2008 01:35PM)
It is about time the site is up and running........
no more flash site took to long to work on and toooooo long to load....
check it out http://www.subdividedstudios.com

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Feb 17, 2008 09:29PM)
The site looks wonderful!!!
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Mar 3, 2008 11:03PM)
Sub Divided Studios is having March Madness...20% off everything except infinity Thread....this does include the Trinty Loop System and the Close-up tables. Reviews on the Café can show their awesome quality!
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Apr 2, 2008 04:09PM)
March madness is over but don't cry just yet...........
keep an eye on the site new items comming soon......

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (May 30, 2008 11:59PM)
I came to the office tonight and seen I had a fax from Mr. Mesika's lawyer.........
I a told that the word "loops" has been copyrighted???????????
I am to cease and desist on using the word "loops", Am I missing something here???
I might have to change the name of the TLS ??????????
What’s next copyrighting the word "abracadabra" ( I think I spelled that wrong)
Well anyone for "The Trinity IET System"


Sebashtion H.
Division President
Tampa Division
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Message: Posted by: Billgussen (May 31, 2008 12:39AM)
I noticed on Penguin's Million Dollar Knot video, they try to use the word "hoops" as much as possible (although I think they messed up and called it loops a few times, though), and my guess is either they got the same message from Mesika's lawyer or they were preemptively trying to avoid such a message.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (May 31, 2008 02:37PM)
I guess I have to change it.
The fax ststed that the customers were getting confused between the TLS and
Mr. Mesika's. I don't see how but, I will abide. I am not trying to start waves..
just wanted to have a way so the customers had a way to save money in the long run....

Sebashtion H.
Division President
Tampa Division
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (May 31, 2008 04:42PM)
We are updated on the web page.........
also drop in prices in the Trinity.......

Sebashtion H.
Division President
Tampa Division
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Message: Posted by: pwolverine (Jul 22, 2008 11:22PM)
The Trinity System is fantastic - I had to watch the DVD a few times to really understand how to use it to tie loops. Its really quick and simple. You then have to decide what thread to use.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Aug 6, 2008 11:57PM)
Thanks Pwolvering........

The new Trailer Video Is up (well Parody)

http://www.subdividedstudios.com

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: pwolverine (Aug 19, 2008 05:48AM)
Hey Sebashtion,

Love the new trailer, its a really good response to that letter. You mention you will be redoing the DVD? Will that be available to owners of the system already if its reshot, and a little clearer?
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Aug 24, 2008 09:01PM)
Now That Triune Is Done And released, I will Be Shooting the New Trinity System DVD..... Without The Word L##ps..... Don't Need Anymore Letters From The Lawyers........ But It Will Be Offered To The Owners Of The Original DVD....
And Yes The Side Shots Will Be Clearer and Bigger..... It also Will most likely be a little Longer But That is cause I like To Go Over Alot.......
The New Cover Will Be up On the web Soon And I will Keep All Posted On The Progress Of The New Release..........


Sebashtion H....
Message: Posted by: pwolverine (Sep 30, 2008 12:37AM)
Hi Sebashtion,

Any news on the updated DVD?
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Oct 15, 2008 11:25AM)
We are shooting for the anniver. date of the 30th this month.....
The site is giving me a run for my money right now.....
it is up and down but will be fixed shortly........

Sebashtion H
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Oct 27, 2008 06:53AM)
We got set back a bit on the rerelease of The Trinity System.
I took A staple in the arm and had to have surgery to have it removed.
this has put us behind about 2 weeks on production.
we are going to have the anniversery sale for the re release, with discounts on all products. we would like to thank all of you who have made the Trinity System a part of your equipment for your shows and for your tying needs.

Thank you all.

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Nov 9, 2008 01:05AM)
Your website is not working. Do you still sell the loop tying system? Thank you.
Message: Posted by: mrmuji (Nov 11, 2008 07:12AM)
I want to get one as well, as I m making uneven length of loops.

Sebashtion, please let us know about your site.

Cheers
Bob
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 13, 2008 05:22AM)
I am sorry about the site I have had major problems with it and it has been down for a while.....

DVLKCC: yes I do still sell the Trinity system, shoot me a PM and I can get you the prices and details......

Bob: Sebashtion, please let us know about your site.
Well we thought it was a good idea to put in our own server for the site:no bandwidth problems, not to many problems, easly updated, RIGHT!!!!!!
I had more Problems with this then Before...... I lost everything for the Webpage,
We are reworking the Page and after Investing all We Did in the new server it is going to work even if it Kills me......... I have Been infront of this computer nonstop for a couple months trying to get this right.......(well I do sleep sometimes)

I am sorry to all for the site problems... I am still here but just invisible for now.....

Shoot me a PM for the Prices On the Products We Offer And I will get Right Back With You.....

Sorry once again for Site Being Down, if you need to see the trailers for the products We offer, we have them up on Youtube.

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 14, 2008 06:40AM)
Here are the you tube videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0tYY09UDLg
if you click on my name "emh114"
it will bring up all the videos for you to select the trailer you would like to view.....
this is a temp fix till I can get this server problem fixed......
Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Jan 8, 2009 11:17AM)
Just an update the new video for Trinity is in the editing stage and will be ready soon........ we are going to blow out the trinity systems we have in stock for the original release price supplies are limited pm me if you are interested.

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Apr 26, 2009 08:59PM)
Its About time......
fighting and fussing but its done!!!!!!!
The site is up and with a massive sale.........
blowing out the Trinity Systems we have in stock.
and for less the the original price and free shipping in the U.S.A.
http://www.subdividedstudios.com

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Oct 19, 2009 09:49PM)
We are coming up on the anniversary of the TLS Oct 31st will be 2 years...

we are excited here, we are making a new batch for the holidays.....

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: mancstar1 (Jan 31, 2010 10:15AM)
Do you need to use wax to keep track of the ends like the million dollar knot?
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Feb 24, 2010 02:43PM)
We don't use wax, it causes issues we think..... we use blue tack or poster tack

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Matze (Aug 21, 2010 04:38PM)
What happend?the site is down,no replies to my email? =(
I wanna buy one =)
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Oct 13, 2010 08:03PM)
Sorry for the late reply..... sent you a pm a bit ago....site was only down for a bit to re upload the new one......

TLS turns 3 this month going to have a anniversary sale.......
more to come soon....

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Oct 31, 2010 10:55PM)
Sale has started Don't miss out on this Deal...

Sebashtion H
Message: Posted by: Chris Meece (Nov 17, 2010 02:09PM)
TLS is amazing. I actually enjoy tying the loops more than using them. This won't make sense until you have used the TLS. It is very relaxing. You will have absolute perfect loops tied in less than 10 seconds.

The materials are perfect as well. The base is well weighted and won't be sliding around as you are working. The mechanism you use for tying doesn't allow the thread to get snagged; it slides off effortlessly. You won't even have trouble with maintaining the correct tension when using this unit, either. It would take hard dedicated work to break this unit, you can pass this unit down to your children someday.

Bottom line ... if you have any interest in IET work then you need this system.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 25, 2010 10:06AM)
Thanks for the kind words on the System Chris..

We are happy that the TLS is providing help for those who are having trouble tying their IET bands......
We know that there are magicians out there that can tie with out a physical system but then there or other magicians that need the extra hand....
this is where the TLS shines..... We have read a lot of posts for both sides, need a physical system/ don't need it..... this is and will be an ongoing situation. but if both can agree that each is beneficial, this would reduce the repetitive post and threads on it.

Happy Holidays to all

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 26, 2010 09:33AM)
We hope all had a safe and magical holiday

Sebashtion H.
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 28, 2010 04:49PM)
We are please to announce that the TLS is now being carried by
The Magic Emporium in Tampa...

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Dec 7, 2010 06:43PM)
The Trinity System is now also carried by MJM Magic

http://www.mjmmagic.com/store/the-trinity-system-tie-your-own-invisible-thread-bands-trick-p-12413.html

Thank you all for the kind words....

Sebashtion H.
sign up for the SDS Mail List
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Jul 31, 2011 10:54PM)
New Updates for the Trinity coming in the next Week along with a new Trailer......
so excited for this.....

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: jugglestruck (Aug 2, 2011 10:45AM)
After a year of owning the TLS I think it was money well spent. Easy to use and a lifetimes supply of very cheap loops, what more can you ask!
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Aug 3, 2011 03:24AM)
Jugglestruck, I am glad you are still happy with your TLS.......

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Sep 10, 2011 01:08AM)
The TLS page on the site is updated!!! New video, and new features...

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 17, 2011 03:59PM)
More TLS Updates are on our FB Page
http://www.facebook.com/Subdividedstudios

Sebashtion H.
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Jul 26, 2012 11:32PM)
For the first Time in the 5 years of the Trinity System we have sold completely out!!!!!!!
YOU GUYS ROCK!!!!!

check out our Face Book Page for updates
http://www.facebook.com/Subdividedstudios

Thank You Again!!!!!

Sebashtion H
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Start Your Legacy!!!!!
Message: Posted by: Sleightofbrain (Aug 24, 2012 03:31PM)
Just another positive testimonial.....

After I did about 10 of them, they started getting better/easier.
After about 10 more, my knots disappeared.
After about 10 MORE, I was able to tie them quickly.

P.S.
And I can easily tie smaller Bands for my young son.
Message: Posted by: RussoMagic.com (Oct 6, 2012 10:49AM)
I have a little board, with 6 nails that does the trick everytime. PM me and I will show you a pic & give some instructions
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Nov 4, 2012 07:19PM)
Thank you RussoMagic.com for coming on here to share your gimmick
I think it would of been better to put it in it's own thread instead of here.


The Trinity system is not for everyone,some do not need the extra help, but some need something to aid them and if banging nails into a board helps you, that is Awesome....

The Trinity system is not a slab of wood with roofing nails pounded in it, it is a high quality piece of equipment that not only works great it looks like high end furniture.
each one is hand made by me and shipped out with clear instruction on the DVD on how to use it and comes with effects taught by Justin miller.
also comes with our unmatched customer service if for any reason you have questions.

Sebashtion H
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Start Your Legacy!!!!!
Message: Posted by: rockbrunnen (Dec 18, 2012 01:45AM)
Will Penguin carry this?
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Dec 18, 2012 05:32AM)
Im not sure if they will or not? why do you ask?

Sebashtion H.
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Start your legacy!!!
Message: Posted by: rockbrunnen (Dec 18, 2012 05:41AM)
[quote]
On 2012-12-18 06:32, Sebashtion H. wrote:
Im not sure if they will or not? why do you ask?

Sebashtion H.
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Start your legacy!!!
[/quote]

Just thought it might save shipping cost with other Penguin order.

Rock
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Jan 28, 2013 08:51AM)
It has come to our attention that Rip Off Trinity Systems are being sold at magic shops, We are not making these! if you are not buying them from Subdividedstudios, The Magic Emporium, or MJM magic they are Rip Offs!!!!!! these are most likely One Piece systems made out of oak, I have seen these before they have the original dvd shot in 2007-2008. please don't get had buying these cheap knock offs.... if you bought a trinity system and think it is one of these contact us to make sure...

Sebashtion H.
Start Your Legacy
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Jan 28, 2013 11:49AM)
And World Magic Shop is authorized to sell the Trinity System!

Sebashtion H.
Start Your Legacy
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Message: Posted by: the1stmagician (Jan 28, 2013 01:44PM)
Is the version being sold over at Hocus Pocus a legit version. http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/?p=11646
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Jan 28, 2013 02:41PM)
We do not sell to HP they are getting them from somewhere else that is not authorized to manufacture the Trinity System.
so no they are not Legit, I contacted the 3 places I wholesale the Trinity System to and none of them are selling to HP.

Sebashtion H
Start Your Legacy!!!
http://www.subdividedstudios.com
Message: Posted by: maxnew40 (Feb 8, 2013 09:49AM)
Well that sucks! I just bought one of those from Hocus-Pocus. I am pretty upset that I bought an unauthorized copy of this from what I thought was reputable dealer.

Sabashtion, have you contacted Hocus-Pocus about this?

Grrrrr.

-Max
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Feb 12, 2013 12:41PM)
This is precisely the reason I now try and buy from the original creator! Thievery abounds today, and I won't be a part of it. I do have a question:

Can the Trinity tie l**ps with NON-elastic? Like Fearson's Vectra Line or Vectra X2 Stage Line? Or, does it HAVE to be IET?

Doug
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Feb 13, 2013 10:51AM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-12 13:41, Dougini wrote:
I do have a question:

Can the Trinity tie l**ps with NON-elastic? Like Fearson's Vectra Line or Vectra X2 Stage Line? Or, does it HAVE to be IET?

Doug
[/quote]

**Crickets cheeping**

Okie dokie...
Message: Posted by: Yehoshua (Feb 15, 2013 11:31PM)
You COULD I suppose, but they wouldn't function at all the same, given the lack of elasticity.
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Feb 17, 2013 10:11AM)
Thank you for replying, Yehoshua! I was beginning to think I was being ignored... :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Feb 18, 2013 10:18PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-13 11:51, Dougini wrote:
[quote]
On 2013-02-12 13:41, Dougini wrote:
I do have a question:

Can the Trinity tie l**ps with NON-elastic? Like Fearson's Vectra Line or Vectra X2 Stage Line? Or, does it HAVE to be IET?

Doug
[/quote]

so sorry I missed this!!!!!!

yes it can and will work with any elastic or non elastic thread...
**Crickets cheeping**

Okie dokie...
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Feb 18, 2013 10:19PM)
[quote]
On 2013-02-16 00:31, Yehoshua wrote:
You COULD I suppose, but they wouldn't function at all the same, given the lack of elasticity.
[/quote]

this is true on the non elastic....
it can tie it but it will be a bit knacky...
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Feb 18, 2013 11:33PM)
Thank you Sebashtion!
Message: Posted by: rodrigomc2000 (May 7, 2013 12:27PM)
I bought this on 02 May 2013 at http://www.subdividedstudios.com don't know if I will receive a tracking number...

Just waiting the product arrive and hope enjoy this a lot...
Message: Posted by: Dougini (May 15, 2013 04:02PM)
I think you [i]will[/i] enjoy it, rodrigomc2000! Welcome to the Café, by the way! :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: close_up_act (Jun 2, 2013 11:57PM)
Should there be a logo on the bottom of the trinity system??? how to do you know if you have a fake or original???


Junior :)
Message: Posted by: close_up_act (Jun 3, 2013 12:29PM)
My question has been answered....


thanks café,

Junior :)
Message: Posted by: Sebashtion H. (Jun 26, 2013 05:51AM)
[quote]
On 2013-06-03 13:29, close_up_act wrote:
My question has been answered....


thanks café,

Junior :)
[/quote]

Sorry I missed this!!!!!

there is a brand on the bottom of the Trinity System.
If you have any questions on your Trinity please email me...
Message: Posted by: DelMagic (Jun 28, 2013 10:54AM)
Hocus Pocus was not selling knockoffs. Here is the explanation that was posted in another thread on the Café.

[quote]
On 2013-01-29 11:28, Paul Gross wrote:
Out today and yesterday with the flu, but Tim has been in contact with me on this matter.

Honestly, there is no big conspiracy occurring here. Here are the simple facts of the matter:

1) Several years ago, Sebastian and Rudy Sanchez entered into a joint-venture producing the Trinity System -- call it the Trinity System 1.0. It was the FIRST manifestation of this particular system.

2) Shortly thereafter, the economy went South and Rudy Sanchez was left with excess stock on hand. He has been sitting on that stock waiting until the economy leveled out.

3) Mr. Sanchez recently sold that excess stock to a reputable distributor, and in turn that distributor sold that remaining stock to us.

4) Speaking with him earlier today, Rudy Sanchez indicated that he would be contacting Sebastian directly and confirming that he did in fact sell his remainder stock to our distributor.

So, these Trinity Systems are in fact, the real McCoy albeit the first version of the system.

Mr. Sanchez was simply attempting to recoup some of his losses. That is all that is occurring here folks. These Trinity Systems are NOT counterfeit, just older versions.

If you prefer to purchase the more current version of the system through Subdivided Studios, no problem, please do so with our blessing. But, to misrepresent this as something sinister or corrupt is simply a falsehood.

Our reputation speaks for itself. Please call us with any questions at (800) 407-4040.

This will be out last post on the subject.

Paul, Owner
Hocus Pocus Magic
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: AmazingKeithy (May 29, 2018 09:54PM)
I'm a little late to the game but got excited about the Trinity System after seeing the glowing review on the Wizard Product Reviews. I ordered the The IET Massive Kit directly from Subdividedstudios.com several weeks ago. When it did not arrive after a couple of weeks I called the contact number from the website and spoke with (I think) the owner. He assured me that he had indeed shipped the product but that he would be happy to ship another one since I had not received it. I thought this was very generous. When the product still did not arrive after a couple of weeks I called him back and he assured me that it was packed up and ready to go out the following business day. We discussed the possibility of tracking to ensure we could keep up with the package and he indicated he would send me the tracking number (which he has not done to date). It has been at least two weeks since we last spoke and I still do not have the product in hand. I do not know what to say about this except that I am out $140 for what promises to be a great product but do not have anything to show for the money I spent. If the situation improves I will be sure to post an update here but, as of now, I would not recommend dealing with this vendor.

Regards,
Keith
Message: Posted by: Dougini (May 31, 2018 07:14PM)
:(
Message: Posted by: AmazingKeithy (Jun 6, 2018 09:43PM)
[quote]On May 29, 2018, AmazingKeithy wrote:
I'm a little late to the game but got excited about the Trinity System after seeing the glowing review on the Wizard Product Reviews. I ordered the The IET Massive Kit directly from Subdividedstudios.com several weeks ago. When it did not arrive after a couple of weeks I called the contact number from the website and spoke with (I think) the owner. He assured me that he had indeed shipped the product but that he would be happy to ship another one since I had not received it. I thought this was very generous. When the product still did not arrive after a couple of weeks I called him back and he assured me that it was packed up and ready to go out the following business day. We discussed the possibility of tracking to ensure we could keep up with the package and he indicated he would send me the tracking number (which he has not done to date). It has been at least two weeks since we last spoke and I still do not have the product in hand. I do not know what to say about this except that I am out $140 for what promises to be a great product but do not have anything to show for the money I spent. If the situation improves I will be sure to post an update here but, as of now, I would not recommend dealing with this vendor.

Regards,
Keith [/quote]

Ok! So this showed up in the mail today! Looks like everything I ordered is in the package. I'll spare you a review as others have done an awesome job of reviewing this system here and elsewhere on the Café. Just a note that I and others probably need to consider that not all dealers are set up like Penguin and Vanishing Inc with a huge focus on customer service and technology. I suspect that the primary focus of Subdivided Studios is the production of high quality products (as can be seen on their website) but not so much on order fulfillment to the general magic public. After a little persistence on the part of both parties this worked out in the end. I'm looking forward to digging in on this product.

Regards,
Keith