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Topic: Vertical Sawing
Message: Posted by: Christopher Starr (Dec 16, 2007 09:44AM)
And now for something completely different...

Vanni Pule's illusion: 'Joking Apart' Cutting a girl through the middle vertically

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQbjgVbmXUk&NR=1
Message: Posted by: Chezaday (Dec 16, 2007 11:14AM)
Interesting version of the "Aztec Girl." I like the giant cards as blades .. cool idea. Thanks for sharing .. you find the strangest things on youtube.

Steve
Message: Posted by: Christopher Starr (Dec 16, 2007 03:59PM)
...Mama always said, "Strange is as strange does"...

Forrest Starr
Message: Posted by: Caveat Lector (Dec 16, 2007 04:57PM)
I have a version of this except that both sides are pulled apart at the same time and the head moves back and forth. I had it built by Illusions by your Design many years ago.
Message: Posted by: Christian Illusionist (Dec 16, 2007 05:36PM)
Bruce Chadwick builds and sells something similar called, "Split Personality".

You can see it here...

[url=http://www.tricksecrets.com/bruce/chadwick/Home/Illusions/Split_Personality/split_personality.html]Bruce Chadwick's "Split Personality"[/url]
Message: Posted by: Caveat Lector (Dec 16, 2007 06:57PM)
That is very simular to mine except mine opens a lttle bit more, the head box is much smaller and moves from side to side. If you go to my web site there is some video footage of it on the site.
Message: Posted by: Chezaday (Dec 17, 2007 12:51AM)
I guess it was late at night and I got things mixed up. Aztec Girl was a vertical sawing in half and then half again. I remember someone posting actual video footage of Harbin performing it. The illusion Bruce Chadwick was pictured with was only one of three made many years ago with the Egyptian motif. I forget exactly what it was called .. anyone remember??

I have a cool Vertical Sawing that can bee seen on the Abbott's 1992 video. If only I knew how to get that stuff up on Youtube.

Steve
Message: Posted by: magicgettogether (Dec 17, 2007 07:39AM)
Hi

Abbotts has a pic of Chezaday's vertical sawing from the 1992 Get Together Gallery, below is the link

http://www.magicgettogether.com/galleries/1992/pages/chezaday2.htm
Message: Posted by: Chezaday (Dec 17, 2007 10:13AM)
Now that's what I'm talkin' about ... check out those guns!

Steve
Message: Posted by: magicmarkdaniel (Dec 17, 2007 04:41PM)
Nice illusion Steve. Do you still perform it?

Mark
Message: Posted by: Chezaday (Dec 18, 2007 12:42AM)
It's actually been a while since we performed that one. I've actually got version three of this illusion in my notebooks. Pictured is version two ... with the chainsaw.

I don't think the Get-Togethers were quite the same after that night ...

Steve
Message: Posted by: asianmagic (Dec 18, 2007 11:55AM)
Ya gotta love the spandex of the 90s!
Message: Posted by: EsnRedshirt (Dec 18, 2007 02:12PM)
Hmm. Nuts- didn't see that picture earlier, Chezaday. I've been working on designing a vertical sawing illusion that looks somewhat similiar (except in mine, both the assistant's hands and feet are visible.) Not sure mine is different enough for the sake of copyright, though I swear it's not based off it. Maybe I should scrap mine and start from scratch... (thankfully it hasn't reached the build stage yet.)

Anyone have thoughts on this?
Message: Posted by: magicmarkdaniel (Dec 18, 2007 02:33PM)
You've done the right thing by coming here and being open about your design. I'm sure you and Steve can work something out between you without anyone else's involvement. I thought I noticed hand holes on Steve's version but didn't see hands so not sure. Plus, the pic is in black and white so wasn't sure if they were just part of the design.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Christian Illusionist (Dec 18, 2007 03:48PM)
From what I can see on his website, the illusion starts with boxes for both arms attached to the frame. I'm guessing they are cut off during performance as indicated by the pictures on Chezaday's website listed here.

[url=http://www.chezaday.com/webgallery/promos/imagepages/image1.html]Chezaday's Vertical Sawing Black and White Photo[/url]

[url=http://www.chezaday.com/webgallery/promos/imagepages/image2.html]Chezaday's Vertical Sawing Color Photo[/url]
Message: Posted by: magicmarkdaniel (Dec 18, 2007 04:25PM)
Ah, good pics. I was looking at the one posted from Abbotts Get Together

Mark
Message: Posted by: EsnRedshirt (Dec 18, 2007 09:02PM)
Okay, those pics make it a bit more clear; it's much less similar than I had initially thought. There's no dismemberment in my vertical sawing (well, apart from the vertical sawing), and I'll bet the method's different.

Steve, PM me if you've got any concerns, but at this point, I think we're both cool.
Message: Posted by: Chezaday (Dec 19, 2007 02:03AM)
Nice detective work boys .. I'm impressed. Version two of the Vertical Sawing both hands, arms, legs, feet and profile of the girls face are revealed. The arms are removed at one point and the box is split from top to bottom. Once again the parts are revealed on both halves .. it's pretty cool, if I do say so myself.

Version three will go a few steps further ... one of these days.

Steve
Message: Posted by: Kyle^Ravin (Dec 19, 2007 05:52AM)
Is this illusion sold commercially? I love it so much and would love to own one!
Message: Posted by: Chezaday (Dec 19, 2007 10:47AM)
Thanks Kyle for the compliment .. but, this is still one of my signature illusions.

Maybe someday I'll release it .. for cash of course!

Steve
Message: Posted by: magicmarkdaniel (Dec 19, 2007 07:29PM)
I was also wonderin the same. Looks like a sweet illusion. Congrats to Chezaday. I'm officially jealous!!

Mark
Message: Posted by: The Mirror Images (Dec 19, 2007 09:11PM)
I jealous too for the hair. LOL. Nice one Stevo
Message: Posted by: Kyle^Ravin (Dec 19, 2007 10:09PM)
What a pity. Cool one you've got there Chezaday. Really hoping this gets released ...
Message: Posted by: Kyle^Ravin (Dec 19, 2007 10:16PM)
What a pity. Cool one you've got there Chezaday. Really hoping this gets released ...
Message: Posted by: Chezaday (Dec 20, 2007 12:20AM)
There's a lot involved in releasing an illusion. I hope that everyone on the Café will respect my decision. It's not easy coming up with original material and this is one of my creations.

In time we'll see if there is enough interest. Thanks for all the compliments .. and yes, I still have all my hair.

Steve
Message: Posted by: Christian Illusionist (Dec 20, 2007 12:38AM)
I completely understand.

A lot of guys feel that people like Franz Harary, David Copperfield and anyone else with a big name and/or original effects, should release the rights and plans to their effects instead of guarding them so closely however, I disagree entirely.

Seriously, if any of us had invented those effects, we probably would not be jumping to give them to the magic community either, unless we were either in want of finances or starving for at least a little recognition.

Those with original illusions have worked hard to develop them and spent a lot of time, energy and money in the process. We shouldn't expect them to simply give them away to the highest bidder just because some feel it should be their way of 'giving back'.