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Topic: Harbin / Abbots Barrel Illusion
Message: Posted by: chill (Dec 29, 2007 08:16AM)
Can anyone direct me to a picture / video / description of these effects? I built an illusion based in a barrel, and then come here and read it's already been done. just my luck, next I'll find out my cardboard box thing has been done too.
bob

p.s. someone already sent me a link to the cardboard box thing. back to the drawing board.
Message: Posted by: Blair Marshall (Dec 29, 2007 08:50AM)
"cardboard box thing"

What does your "cardboard box thing" do???

Blair Marshall
"ShaZzam!"
Message: Posted by: magicgettogether (Dec 29, 2007 10:07AM)
There are a couple pictures that can be found on the Abbott custom illusion page (url below)

http://www.magicgettogether.com/custom/index.htm

Also some pictures can be found in the 1997 Magic Get Together gallery of a barrell illusion being performed by the Holsteins (url below)

http://www.magicgettogether.com/galleries/b/index.htm

Hope this helps your research
Message: Posted by: gulamerian (Dec 29, 2007 10:25AM)
Don't feel bad. I invented the Mis Made Girl Illusion when I was 13 years old only to find out I was ripped off before I was born. I think this happens alot. Go with your gut when it comes to ideas you think you have developed.
Message: Posted by: Swann101 (Dec 29, 2007 01:02PM)
LoL! Sorry it was funny, I would be mad if that happened.
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Dec 30, 2007 03:55AM)
Here's a video of the barrel illusion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC4OilbhXQ0

The illusion has been around for ages! I remember seeing it over 30 years ago, as a kid.

I've lost track of how many beginners in the art think that they invented things. It's really a case of not being well informed.
Message: Posted by: chill (Dec 30, 2007 07:54AM)
Thanks to all for replying. this place is an excellent resource, comprised of the best resources - good people!

magicgettogether, thank you for the links to pics. the first is the abbotts version I believe. the second is the harbin barrel. correct me if I'm wrong please.

http://www.magicgettogether.com/custom/index.htm

http://www.magicgettogether.com/galleries/b/index.htm


Alan Munro, thank you for the link to the abbots version in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC4OilbhXQ0


my barrel is similar to the harbin version, but I believe it is different enough to warrant upgrading to a sale-able version.


Blair Marshall - aka "ShaZzam!" asked

What does your "cardboard box thing" do???

my cardboard box is another sword box, though not as good as some. now where did that guy get those chickens?


gulamerian - thank you for the kindness. yes it does indeed suck to be skunked, especially by so many decades.


Swann101 - I'm too old to get angry over this. if it turned out this was already done, I'd just steal my method and use it in another effect.


again, thanks to all
bob
Message: Posted by: Blair Marshall (Jan 5, 2008 04:14PM)
So I believe the "cardboard thingee" you are describing is Hans Moretti's cardboard box penetration where he reappears with a whole barnyard of critters, including a chicken.

Blair Marshall
"ShaZzam!"
Message: Posted by: Terry Holley (Jan 6, 2008 12:01AM)
Here's a clip of "Barricaded Barrels" (name of effect as produced by Owen).

BARRICADED BARRELS – click here to see video Kelsey climbs into a barrel placing her hand out a hole in the side, waving. Garry then places a lid on the barrel, locking Kelsey inside. A second barrel having four solid rods placed across the opening, is examined by audience members. The barrels are then placed end to end, in a split second; Kelsey’s hand goes into the barrel coming out the other, transporting herself from one to the other through a solid door and steel rods.

http://www.carsonentertainment.com/Illusions3.htm

You'll need to "click" the link.

Terry
Message: Posted by: chill (Jan 6, 2008 07:24PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-05 17:14, Blair Marshall wrote:
So I believe the "cardboard thingee" you are describing is Hans Moretti's cardboard box penetration where he reappears with a whole barnyard of critters, including a chicken.

Blair Marshall
"ShaZzam!"
[/quote]

yes it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH-PFecys6Y

I can only hope to get this good someday


Terry Holley - thank you for the link, and the owen name for the illusion.


does anyone have a video for the harbin effect?

thanks,
bob
Message: Posted by: Christian Illusionist (Jan 17, 2008 12:41AM)
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsOjQCTAbQ4&NR=1]Paul Daniels Performing 'Barricaded Barrels'[/url]
Message: Posted by: chill (Jan 17, 2008 09:59AM)
Christian Illusionist :
thank you for posting this, dantes' black and white barrels. slightly different than owens barricaded barrels. still looking for a video of the harbin version. thanks very much.
bob
Message: Posted by: Mike Thornton (Jan 17, 2008 01:03PM)
I'm fairly certain the barrels used by the Carsons were made by John Gaughan, not Owens. Paul Driscoll used to have a set just like the ones used by the Carsons.
Message: Posted by: martinimerlin (Aug 26, 2013 05:19AM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-17 14:03, Mike Thornton wrote:
I'm fairly certain the barrels used by the Carsons were made by John Gaughan, not Owens. Paul Driscoll used to have a set just like the ones used by the Carsons.
[/quote]

Yes, my barrels were built by Gaugan.
Message: Posted by: ClintonMagus (Aug 26, 2013 08:01PM)
Chill,

Many magicians have "invented" things that were already in production without knowing it. I don't consider this "not being well-informed", because there are very few omniscient magicians when it comes to magic history (with Jim Steinmeyer and Johnny Gaughan being two of the exceptions). It does show that you are creative and I have no doubts that you will keep working and "inventing" and will end up with something great one day.

I think it was Andre Kole who challenged himself to come up with three new illusion ideas every day.
Message: Posted by: chill (Aug 27, 2013 05:27AM)
I was surprised to see this thread and wondered who started it with my name. reading it brought back memories, thanks.

ClintonMagus, thanks for the encouragement. I've learned a lot since this one was built.