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Topic: Jacket Pocket Organizer
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Dec 31, 2007 02:48AM)
I've been looking for a pocket prop organizer for jacket pockets.
Does anyone know where one is already available, or will I just need to make one?
Message: Posted by: EvanTheMagicMan (Dec 31, 2007 10:40AM)
This may a bit like what you are looking for. http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=MI7078

There you go! Hope its what you were looking for!
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Dec 31, 2007 10:35PM)
I built an item a bit like that, but I never use the darn thing. It doesn't increase pocket space by enough to be worth using, nor does it allow you to use the jacket's existing pockets.

I'm trying to find something that I can put into my jacket's side and inner pockets to organize props.
Message: Posted by: mrunge (Jan 1, 2008 12:57AM)
Check with Carl Andrews. He makes something called the "pocket pocket" which is great.

http://www.carlandrews.com/products.html#pocket

Mark.
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Jan 1, 2008 02:30AM)
I'll pick one up to see if I like it. I've heard a lot of good about it and it's just $10, so why not.
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Jan 1, 2008 09:29AM)
I have used Klamm's pocket organizer for years. I actually have three of the critters. Each one remains permanently loaded with an entire (almost) close up act. They are inexpensive, well made and versatile. They are designed to organize props in a jacket pocket.

I store the loaded organizer in a large zip-lock freezer bag that is labeled with the contents (and also has an inventory card inside with the props) between uses (thanks Billy McComb).

Basically the organizer is designed for use in your side jacket pocket but can also be used for cummerbunds too (and I know one female magician who has one installed in a small purse).

It has:

4 large compartments for playing cards (packet tricks), silks, sponge balls, etc.

6 small compartments for coins, dice, miniature cards, and the like.

4 very small compartments along the bottom for narrow long things like color-changing knives, thumbtips, etc.

It is sewn in two halves and the center section can act as a "normal" pocket.

This center section will hold a deck of cards or can be propped open a bit to hold sponge balls, a large ring, whatever. I sewed a full deck card index into the center of one of mine.

This costs about $10.00 USD from http://www.Klamm-magic.com
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Jan 1, 2008 11:41AM)
That sounds like the one.
I'm getting both to see how it goes, but the Klamm organizer sounds like the thing I need.
Message: Posted by: yeahidomagic (Jan 1, 2008 01:13PM)
Well My mom is going to sew in pockets for me so I can ditch my TT when done and for coins. Instead of spending up too 20.00$ or more buy some fabric and sew in your own custom pockets! If you find a good org. for under 10.00$ than go ahead and buy it .
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Jan 1, 2008 05:22PM)
I have custom pockets sewn into my vests, but they aren't for close-up. The lining of the jackets I use isn't heavy material, so I don't want to rist a pressure tear.
Message: Posted by: mrunge (Jan 1, 2008 11:32PM)
Thanks for the suggestion Harry. I think I'll look into one of the Klamm Magic pocket organizers as well. Here is the exact link for it:

http://www.klamm-magic.com/cgi-bin/web_store.cgi?cart_id=646288_2959&keywords=CU001&exact_match=on

Mark.
Message: Posted by: yeahidomagic (Jan 2, 2008 12:26AM)
Mrunge that looks like a great pocket organizer for only 10$ ! good luck !
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Jan 2, 2008 04:13AM)
I like the aspect of being able to discern the side of a color changing knife without looking. I din't use color chaning knives, but I have several other items with a similar restriction, so that's a big plus.
Message: Posted by: pepka (Jan 2, 2008 04:58AM)
Call me crazy, but if you guys need a special pocket organizer when you're working close-up, you've got too much crap in your pockets. I do 4 hours of strolling loaded like this...deck of cards left jacket pocket, coin purse, (it's double sided, one trick in each side) one loose chinese coin in the same pocket I can grab easily, a wand and marker in my left inside jacket pocket, egg bag in right, rear pants pocket holds wallet for card to wallet, left back pocket occasionally holds 2 pieces of fruit for final loads. When I'm finished with everything it goes back in the same place. I keep an extra deck of cards stashed at the bar in my bag.
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Jan 2, 2008 05:37AM)
"You're crazy" - now that that's out of the way. . .

I carry different items for different routines, so my list of props would depend on different factors. The reason I have need of an organizer isn't because I have too much stuff, it's because I keep some of my pockets free all of the time, hence increasing the concentration of "stuff" in other pockets.

My right jacket pocket typically stays clear as well as my left pants pocket, both for ditching and holding things like card boxes while I use the cards.

"Different strokes for different folks" as they say.
Message: Posted by: mrunge (Jan 2, 2008 11:54PM)
Yep...you're crazy! OK, OK...just kidding.

Me? I just like collecting more "stuff" and adding it to the other "stuff" I already have. You can't ever have too much "stuff." There's always that one little spot that can hold even more "stuff." Might not be able to get the door open, but that's where all the "stuff" is.

Mark. :bg:
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Jan 3, 2008 12:27AM)
That's some crazy "stuff". :)

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 2:59am
I looked around and found this organizer on a medical supply site:
Pocket Pal II
http://www.medexsupply.com/medical-organizers-pocket-kits-organizers-adc-pocket-pal-ll-organizer-navy-tags-x_pid-2074.html
Looks like it might be pretty good.

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 11:37pm
I just got the Klamm's Magic organizer today, and man am I angry . . .

that I didn't buy 2 to save on shipping!
It looks perfect, thanks Harry.

Posted: Jan 5, 2008 5:26pm
The "pocket-pocket" arrived today; and with the combination of the two, I think I have what I need.

I'm still in the process of re-working a few routines and changing different aspects of my pocket management, but with these new resources it looks promising.

Thanks to everyone who contributed.
Message: Posted by: mrunge (Jan 5, 2008 09:45PM)
Glad it worked out. Thanks for the update. I'll be ordering my Klamm organizer soon.

Mark.
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Jan 5, 2008 10:46PM)
I worked out the idea of the Pocket-pocket holding all of my TT items and the pocket organizer handling coins and card gimmicks.

My deck will be in a cell phone holder on my hip (brown leather with a magnetic closure), my card to wallet is holding up in my right pant pocket. I have a few "single-use" card effects in one of my jacket's inner pockets assorted other things spread around.

My routines are still in the reworking process, so I'm still adding effects.
Message: Posted by: newsmaya (Jan 6, 2008 12:26AM)
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Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Jan 6, 2008 05:46PM)
I cancelled my order for the Pocket Pal II when I got an email that the order needed to be backordered.

I then went to a "Scrubs" location and bought the exact same items (they cost more, but I get them now and without shipping).

Long story short, these are pretty cool. If you use a long card, the pocket pal's top pocket is EXACTLY the same width as the long card - like it was custom made. It can also hold a sharpie or two, business cards, and a packet trick if you like. All in one inside jacket pocket - what a deal!

Between "Pocket Pocket" the Klamm Magic Organizer and the Pocket Pal, I hit the pocket management jackpot!

Thanks for helping me out guys.
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Jan 28, 2008 03:19PM)
I just got my pocket organizer, I ordered it directly from Klamm. I ordered it on Thursday & it was in the morning mail, that was really fast!

Cool little thing, can't wait to get it all loaded up & start using it!


Mike
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Jan 28, 2008 11:30PM)
It's awesome isn't it!
The shipping is unusually fast as well.

While I'm finding new prop organization items, I'm also reducing the size and number of props that I carry. The flexibility of the Klamm organizer has been a big help.
Message: Posted by: Rickbc (May 27, 2008 06:52PM)
I found an old CD fanny pack. works just great it has two front pockets, a mesh pocket with velcro, also in the front, and two small pockets on the belt, they are divided into two smaller pockets. I was suprised when I found out just how mush fit. For me it is more then I would use at any gig, but I put stuff in it to see what it would be like. Just an Idea. I found my in the Garage collecting dust :)
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (May 30, 2008 01:00AM)
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On 2007-12-31 23:35, Dustin Baker wrote:
I built an item a bit like that, but I never use the darn thing. It doesn't increase pocket space by enough to be worth using, nor does it allow you to use the jacket's existing pockets.

I'm trying to find something that I can put into my jacket's side and inner pockets to organize props.
[/quote]

None of these devices will increase your pocket space. That's limited by the size of the pocket. They will help you organize your props, as long as you use fairly standard props.

Try eliminating everything that isn't absolutely necessary. Now that I'm through with the festivals, I usually work in some kind of jacket. I wear a nice vest, as well. I have a couple of ball holders under one edge of the vest for loads for the chop cup. My CTW goes in my right breast pocket. C/S/B goes into right outside jacket pocket, using the ticket pocket as the holder for the coins. Color changing knives go into the same pocket. They are touch coded.

Chop cup goes into left outside jacket pocket. Ring Flight goes into left back pocket. One deck of cards goes into left outside jacket pocket as well. This is for CTW.

TT material goes into right trousers pocket, with deck of cards. If I'm doing ID it goes into back right pocket. Jackets are tailored so props don't make the clothing bulge.

Other items go into left jacket pocket, as well as vest pockets. If I'm doing a three hour strolling gig, I have more than enough material for the tables.
Message: Posted by: mrmuji (Nov 20, 2008 09:53PM)
Is Klamm's pocket organizer I should go for? How does it compare with the Close-Up Organizer by Seams Like Magic?

http://www.penguinmagic.com/specialorderproduct.php?ID=9017

Cheers
Message: Posted by: amazenyou (Dec 12, 2008 03:02PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-03 00:54, mrunge wrote:
Yep...you're crazy! OK, OK...just kidding.

Me? I just like collecting more "stuff" and adding it to the other "stuff" I already have. You can't ever have too much "stuff." There's always that one little spot that can hold even more "stuff." Might not be able to get the door open, but that's where all the "stuff" is.

Mark. :bg:
[/quote]

"We've got more places than we got stuff! We're gonna have to go out and buy MORE STUFF" haha, reminded me of classic George Carlin there.

Love those organizers you guys have been linking to. Good stuff.

C
Message: Posted by: deadcatbounce (Dec 14, 2008 05:26PM)
Working out where to put stuff - and how much stuff to put - takes time. It's also confidence dependant. The more confidence you have - the less you need.
If you work the same place every week, or weekend - you need to be prepared for the same customers - next time.

But - me? I go out prepared for 3 different shows...just in case.. I come across a table I've done recently..........

I have the High Caliber Holster as a reserve, and use a waistcoat (vest)with a few internal pocckets.. very much what I have in my pic -no sleeves.. and that's it. I rarely use the HC holster... but I love the security it gives me. It's a confidence thing again - and that's something you really can't buy...

My advice is.. once you know what you want to do for a few years.. get yourself tailored for it.
Get pockets sewn where you need them.
Ask your seamstress for the obvious.
Use sewn-in magnets... hey! this is a BIG one for me...
Just think.. go into a junk clothes chop and buy something that SUITS you... and adapt it.
You don't even have to be able to sew.. you can buy stuff that welds fabric together with an iron..
And.. study Cellini..

don't make the mistake I did. "oh.. that'll do for now".

Plan ahead. For everything.

Spik later...

Cheers!

DCB
Message: Posted by: drswoboda (Dec 15, 2008 09:55PM)
These look interesting. Has anyone tried to dye them black or maybe navy blue? Is it possible? What is the material?
-David

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On 2008-01-03 01:27, Dustin Baker wrote:
That's some crazy "stuff". :)

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 2:59am
I looked around and found this organizer on a medical supply site:
Pocket Pal II
http://www.medexsupply.com/medical-organizers-pocket-kits-organizers-adc-pocket-pal-ll-organizer-navy-tags-x_pid-2074.html
Looks like it might be pretty good.

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 11:37pm
I just got the Klamm's Magic organizer today, and man am I angry . . .

that I didn't buy 2 to save on shipping!
It looks perfect, thanks Harry.

Posted: Jan 5, 2008 5:26pm
The "pocket-pocket" arrived today; and with the combination of the two, I think I have what I need.

I'm still in the process of re-working a few routines and changing different aspects of my pocket management, but with these new resources it looks promising.

Thanks to everyone who contributed.
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Message: Posted by: John C (Dec 28, 2008 09:21AM)
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On 2008-01-02 05:58, pepka wrote:
Call me crazy, but if you guys need a special pocket organizer when you're working close-up, you've got too much crap in your pockets. I do 4 hours of strolling loaded like this...deck of cards left jacket pocket, coin purse, (it's double sided, one trick in each side) one loose chinese coin in the same pocket I can grab easily, a wand and marker in my left inside jacket pocket, egg bag in right, rear pants pocket holds wallet for card to wallet, left back pocket occasionally holds 2 pieces of fruit for final loads. When I'm finished with everything it goes back in the same place. I keep an extra deck of cards stashed at the bar in my bag.
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Man, you must be "puffy" with all that fruit.

How about that company that sells that leather trick holster. That seems like a good idea. I just don't like to be weighed down. I carry nuts bolts dice heavy stuff.

J
Message: Posted by: pollysukemaru (Dec 18, 2017 06:10PM)
Does anyone tell me where I can find a pocket organizer for jacket pocket available currently??
Message: Posted by: paulalpha (Dec 19, 2017 01:00AM)
The links for Klams pocket organizer are bad, due to the death of Mr Klam. The medical supply links still work. I find I need to bring much more stuff than I actually use. Its a confidence thing. But is also gives you flexibility in case something is not just hitting well that day, or you have repeat customers who've already seen your mainstays
Message: Posted by: Doc Willie (Dec 19, 2017 05:43PM)
[quote]On Jan 2, 2008, pepka wrote:
Call me crazy, but if you guys need a special pocket organizer when you're working close-up, you've got too much crap in your pockets. I do 4 hours of strolling loaded like this...deck of cards left jacket pocket, coin purse, (it's double sided, one trick in each side) one loose chinese coin in the same pocket I can grab easily, a wand and marker in my left inside jacket pocket, egg bag in right, rear pants pocket holds wallet for card to wallet, left back pocket occasionally holds 2 pieces of fruit for final loads. When I'm finished with everything it goes back in the same place. I keep an extra deck of cards stashed at the bar in my bag. [/quote]

I pretty much agree with not needing so much stuff. HOWEVER, I am now in a situation where I have two tricks that both need access to one pocket to go smoothly. Rather than re-work the tricks, much easier to keep two props separated in the pocket.