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Topic: The Bat
Message: Posted by: masterofthecoin (Feb 18, 2002 10:46PM)
What's everyone's opinion on this? I've been thinking about buying one, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. Easy to use? Easy to conceal? Lots of other possible tricks?
Message: Posted by: cardguy (Feb 19, 2002 03:14PM)
The Bat can do coin vanishes similar to those of the Raven, but it can be used for other effects as well such as PK effects or any other effects that require a very strong ***gimmick***. (If you don't know what the gimmick is then PM me. I don't know if it's appropiate exposing it here. If you have a Raven, then you know what it is, but it's much stronger than a Raven). The good thing about the Bat is that it can be worn at different locations throughout your body in order to achieve the desired effect. It's pretty fun to play around with. But be careful with it, don't put it near any electronics or video tapes or they will be ruined!!! Check out the demo at Magicsmith.
Message: Posted by: magiker (Mar 5, 2002 04:44PM)
I have the bat and like it very much.
I use it mainly for PK
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Message: Posted by: Doveman (Mar 13, 2002 10:05AM)
Can you make a person's watch change the time with the Bat? I heard you could. Is it that powerful to move the hand of the watch?
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Mar 13, 2002 10:32AM)
I don't know about that? Perhaps someone can answer that question & mine at the same time?

Does anyone use the new "fat Bat" ?



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Message: Posted by: Philemon Vanderbeck (Mar 13, 2002 12:29PM)
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On 2002-03-13 11:05, Doveman wrote:
Can you make a persons watch change the time with the bat? I heard you could. Is it that powerful to move the hand of the watch?
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No, but you can stop the movement of an analog watch.

However, there's always the risk that you won't be able to restart it.


If you want to change the time of a spectator's watch, I recommend Steve Banachek's "Psychokinetic Time."
Message: Posted by: sludge (Mar 14, 2002 06:15AM)
As I understand it, the Bat will help digital watches to "move forward in time."

In my experience, there is no danger of the analogue watch not re-starting as long as the watch is not stopped for an excessive duration (I usually stop the watch for 4-5 seconds as I can't concentrate longer than that) ;)
Message: Posted by: wayman (Mar 15, 2002 06:46PM)
I find it best to take the watch and apply the kinetic time principle (in advance), then hold the watch by the ends of the watch strap and tell them to watch (no pun) the second hand.

I then stop the watch (the second hand) using a blowing motion to hide what I'm really doing. (I do it at waist level)

After I start it again, I give the watch back and tell them to put it back onto their wrist, the guy (or girl) then usually stands blowing on his (or her) watch trying to stop it and usually asks to see it again.

Then I tell them to place their hands over the watch so I can't touch it, and THEN complete the Kinetic time routine.

I find that doing it this way blows them totally away.

If you think this is bold then you're right, but I've never been caught because I do straight away, what you tell them you're not doing.
Message: Posted by: nissemus (Mar 18, 2002 07:54AM)
Does anyone know what the difference is between The Bat and Chazpro's other PK devices?
Message: Posted by: NickW (Mar 26, 2002 09:42AM)
I think that the difference is in strength and method of attaching, but I'm not sure. The Bat is probably better seen, like these, not as an effect but as a fairly versatile utility device. There are effects in a number of books (Fulves' Self-working mental magic springs to mind) which could be adapted to work with it.
Message: Posted by: lesterkirad (Mar 26, 2002 01:16PM)
Do you have to be wearing sleeves to perform it? or, what are some other limitations?
Message: Posted by: NickW (Mar 26, 2002 05:26PM)
It depends on what you want to do with it - as I said above, it's more a utility item than an effect.

No sleeves are required for some effects. The ad points out that the PK rings effect (the only one for which extra props are provided) can be done 'surrounded in a swimsuit.' This is technically possible, but sounds like a bit of a challenge to conceal the method without worrying people unduly... The 'Raven style' vanishes mentioned above do require you to be wearing long sleeves, or conceivably a watch, and guarding your angles carefully.
Message: Posted by: jkvand (Oct 12, 2002 06:18PM)
Just an idea for you Bat owners out there - I like to do magic with borrowed items as much as possible, so I borrow 2 key rings from the spec and do the spinning rings trick with their own key rings. They take them back and try and of course they can't do it. Using the borrowed items helps solidify the magic in their minds and make it seem more like magic.
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Oct 12, 2002 06:43PM)
That is an excxellent idea :righton:



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Message: Posted by: danielhunley (Dec 1, 2002 07:07PM)
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On 2002-03-13 13:29, Philemon Vanderbeck wrote:
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On 2002-03-13 11:05, Doveman wrote:
Can you make a persons watch change the time with the bat? I heard you could. Is it that powerful to move the hand of the watch?
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No, but you can stop the movement of an analog watch.

However, there's always the risk that you won't be able to restart it.



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Using the raven can let you prolong how long you make the watch stop.
Message: Posted by: JJP161 (Dec 1, 2002 08:06PM)
You might want to take a look at the M5. I have never used the Bat, but I do own the M5 and I'm very happy with it. To my understanding it is similar to the Bat only more powerful. Hope this helps.